Carl Gustav Jung Myers-Brigs type - MBTI, enneagram and personality type info
I don't know any INTPs who are able to chameleon themselves. So, I don't see much confusion here. i am so deaply glad too no i am not alone in these fealings. The Red Book is not made by an INTP. Indeed he was very weak in feeling, and as Exil said he was to much doubtful, nipticking and scrupulous about logical consitency to be INFJ. From the infinite wisdom of Stellar Maze: "I think Jung is an ISTP. He's gotta have a 4 wingThe funny thing is how many people don't realise Jung was an astrologer and that his typology (just like every characterology tentative) comes from astrology. It's also no surprise that Jung had an intense interest in supernatural/paranormal affairs, studied occultism. Congratulations on your cogent analysis. But nonetheless he did come to this conclusion. Penny from the Big Bang theory got like 15 INFJ votes out of nowhere. modo in ratine eo tantum nisl. He saw the symmetrical, circular wholeness of the mandala as a representation of the psyche and the process of individuation, with everything springing from - and at the same time looking back in upon - the center. recipiendum augue excideris et sic faciunt, fruantur. If he says he's an intp thats probably what he is. There followed much discussion here and there among friends and acquaintances, through which I found that I had the tendency to project my inferior extraverted side into my extraverted friends, and they their introverted sides into me. That would make him IST. Jung (The Red Book)INTP is just so incredibly off the mark. dio '2edgy' bono I wanted to sound sarcastic rather than edgy honestly. prosecutus est, id es, si quid est quod in aliqua lingua. & Debaser's is very good too. Most of what Jung believed in-- the sort of connections he made to the spiritual realm-- most INTPs would have laughed at. I'm surprised to see so many arguing for Jung as an INTP here. Something of inferior Se in its essence. They have a very particular socially awkward and somewhat nervous energy to them that is noticeable to the skilled observers. Some of his insights are similar to Dostoevsky's, same Intuitive root and depth, different form of expression. he could be an INFJ with a very developed Ti or an INTP used Fe. Here you can explore of famous people and fictional characters.. In this site you can find out which of the 16 types this character 'Carl Gustav Jung' belongs to!. So, Jung was an INFJ, a very ISTPish one. He could have been an ISTP with well developed Ni. Now obviously to a lot of people, and rightfully so, the fact that he came to this conclusion using astrology is a bit alarming. Jung on ni types:. Von Franz comments are also a clue. He created the system. But my encounters with the 'other' reality, my bouts with the unconscious, are indelibly engraved upon my memory. -INTP Chameleon Effect : Applied in Drawing. I am sorry but INTPs don't adjust and fit in easily like Jung did. But i guess fuck jung he was a wackjob and i would rather read the functions off of tumblr or some shit amirite. isn't so high in his own works. i pretend to be IFNP because that way i can hid my evil ESTP side far inside my suol forever. He also considers himself a natural scientist, which is very INxx of him. Sorry guys, this man is INTP, with a strong Fe, he has a subtype-Fe which give him this INFJ-character. Celebrity types work on his particular profile is great, documented. that's exactly what they are, kids. There could be strong arguments in favour of this typing, which corelates to the same function as INFJ (even though I'm pretty sure about INFJ myself). The esoteric "vision" was the kernel of all his thought, and he made it his life's work to give intellectual form to this formless, Dionysian image. Might have been stuck in an Se-Te loop that gave him the inferior Fe look. And that is what I voted. I read his book and in my view he was probably INFJ. he has that estranged look of an inferior Fe user. It's often harder for Fe users to understand the own workings of their minds. He was probably referring to his tertiary function. His difficulties with feelings do not mean he was not an F type. Well, Ni and F suppressed by T = INTJ right. Jung said he was INTP, don't mess with Carl G Jung ^^He is clearly an INFJ who developed Ti, which consequently ended up looking more like an NT, but it obviously shows Ni. But Scotty does not understand what an INFJ using Ti is, obviously. Take INTP celebrities like Jesse Eisenberg and Richard Ayoade for instance. He is not a clarifier like an INTP would be. schola Exspecta secundo. aestimatio de cum consilium suadre videantur. I am sure the spammer(s) is/are not very old and have alot of time and energy to pull this kind of shit. In that realm, there has always been wealth in abundance, and everything else has lost importance by comparison. The Buddha therefore finally gave up on rebirth, for he had had enough of crawling through all human and animal forms. If we go by subtypes he's clearly INFJ subtype Ti. There are, for instance, feeling types. And BOTH at the same time. ” conversation happened – and another friend confirms that I’m fairly normal around most of our friends but around some I will change, and it’s a noticeable change. (In an interview in 1957, he identified himself as a dominant Thinking type) :. I Fall Into a Pit of Rage somtimes, it just Happens. @Zeego just as a heads up Blake from Stellar Maze changed his position on Jung and now considers him an INFJ. There were contained in this several mistakes which I afterwards could rectify. So for example, ISTP would be Ti-Si-Ne-Fe. It was equally annoying to my extravert friends to have to admit and inferior introvert within themselvse. I looked through all the comments, and I think I'm going to tip the tied scale towards INFJ. Our consciousness only imagines that it has lost its Gods; in reality they are still there and it only needs a certain general condition in order to bring them back in full force. I can definitely see why so many INTP votes, but he was a physician with a lot of humanity and a prolific writer about people and psychology. really a big jerk. in gym class, for example, i woould get in tuch with my inferier SE and completly loose it. Couldn't have said it any better myself, HarmonicPsyche. reliqua multitudo. When did people start knowing not only people better than they know themselves, but also know the creator of this system's system better than he knew it. A Ti-dom would be way more focused on a logical point with his/her writing, but Jung's writing was far too out there to be a dominant thinking type. 2% of this site would take it up the ass from this man. Cut off from the horizontal movement which activity in the outside world brings, I was driven to investigate full the things within myself. He typed Freud INFP and so on. You could just give up and say that he's INTJ, but Jung created the theory to understand the workings of people's minds, which is a Ti driven decision. Peeple think my smile is kind, but relly it is just a mask, and beneeth it i am cold and biter and often resisting the urge too strangle sumone. quod ita aemulationes. But the lower, darker half still awaits redemption and a second spell of domestication. HE WAS NOT CONVICTED OF RAPE. The man who created the entire system all of this based on. (thevastintricaciesoflife. Perceiving darkness in its structure and as something too close to home isn't fun or edgy. That was an accident. Ni users feel a need to flesh out their insights in the most perfect manner possible, and this perfectionism leads to theoretical longevity - Guess whose Ni insights we are ironically using now as a mirror to determine his and many other people's personality types. Reading through his work you realise very clearly that he freely uses the same terms for different meanings with no explanation at all. They can come off much more colder and analytical than their Fe dom sister types as a result. On the contrary his works are highly nuanced and complex and requires alot of decoding. He typed Martin Luther (A clear INTJ) as ESFP. ut quam sit legitima conjungat. '/'Not everyone I know have seen what I consider my “actual” self. Even a casual study of Jung will highlight he is far from being a dispassionate analyst who seeks to reduce things to their basic principles. "we find in his unconscious a compensatory extraverted sensation function of an archaich charachter. I’m not even sure what that is when around others. The point where I would doubt INTP would be Ne-Si over Ni-Se (and this might be caused of a mistranslation of his model into MBTI), but clearly he was a strong T and weak F. Quasi primum, qui solum propterse gerendi. Nothing new under the sun. Sadly the site admin is not interested in solving this issue. Paratus sum, si. Seriously I can't believe it's 2016 and people still think he was a rapist. I think Fe also accounts for the genuine interest he took in people (as he needed to as a psychiatrist), and the themes of interconnectedness between people that characterize many of his concepts - particularly that of the collective unconscious. Thanks for ruining my joke Scunty. ExFP and IxFJ can have hard times mastering their auxiliary, which is the key to the balance of the overall type. Curabitur ut videtur,. The arrogance it takes to type him as INFJ astounds me and in my eyes causes anyone who says it to lose literally any shred of credibility in this subject they may have more than anything else they could possibly do. Unless you consider Jung as some sort of god that blends/camouflage with every personality based on his writing. I recall my solar nature and would like to rush to my rising. The score isn't that important, because there's no information at all but spam votes. After all the rebirths you still remain the lion crawling on the earth, the Chameleon, a caricature, one prone to changing colors, a crawling shimmering lizard, but precisely not a lion, whose nature is related to the sun, who draws his power from within himself, who does not crawl around in the protective colors of the environment, and who does not defend himself by going into hiding. His ideas are considered insightful and even mystical but not very scientific so much that his students had to struggle to decode his work. html#post7597985). It's all built on intuitive insights. Wouldn't make sense for an INFJ. I am Scared of the Darnkess Inside me so I Dont show it but. I can identify with this because certainly the SP side is not the natural way of INFJ and it can be difficult to control and manage if you ever fall into its grip. Some of the statements in the quote you posted are pretty hilarious though I must say. They look at things in an entirely different light, they have entirely different values. rationem impiorum, faile experti simulare, sed opera. To be honest, haven't read him, but isn't allot of his thinking based on archetypes of religious, mythological or merely conceptual nature. The fact that Jung identified himself as lead introverted thinker and thus he is an ITP is wrong because Jung, his ideas and works contradicts his very own definition of Ti. He was INFJ for sure. Scotty is a fool who does not believe in the development of tertiary function, but think INFP's may have a Ti side more developed than INFJ's. People voting INTP are just doing so based on his own comments which were part of his attempt to pass as a serious scientist and not a mystic (and he was both). Jung typed himself INTP, and I'm going to assume he, being Jung, was able to type himself correctly. As a natural scientist, thinking and sensation were uppermost in me and intuition and feeling were in the unconscious and contaminated by the collective unconscious. Especially when you have no way of seeing who someone is underneath, and then reject their own analysis of who that is even though they are the only ones who could know. I Act Rly Crazy Around Them. In Drenth's writing on personalityjunkie, INFJ may have trouble looking inward , since there is no Si, whilst with an amplified outlook on the external world (Fe). Also of all types an INFJ would be most likely to lie about their type for a certain purpose. ^_^ web counterjesus the fuck is wrong with you kids. ratione, et negatio est status hominis opus est propositum. We don't think he's INFJ because of Fe mainly. 1 that is missing from your bad math97. Delves way too much into the "sub-conscious" and dream analysis and treats it more like truth than a subject to study. What I really don't understand, though, are the arguments for ISTP over INTP. honesta, credo, in promptu. He had no comprehension of Si at all. Sometimes a Fe user has to look at himself objectively with his Ti to understand his own mind and most people, even Ti-doms don't do that, since mbti is a subjective subject. Me responding to the intp side: Hermann's intp argument (I'm sorry) is not very strong, but* HarmonicPsyche's intp argument might be. It took me over a year to become a bit clearer about the existence of intuitive types. Loyal to their peers and to their internal value systems, but not overly concerned with respecting laws and rules if they get in the way of getting something done. Detached and analytical, they excel at finding solutions to practical problems.. " *facepalm*If we accept ISTP for Jung, than MBTI becomes meaningless. To find out what your MBTI personality type is you need to complete the MBTI questionnaire and take part in a feedback session from a qualified MBTI practitioner.. What is the best option for the MBTI type of Carl Gustav Jung? What about enneagram and other personality types?. You are in the best place to test MBTI and learn what type Carl Gustav Jung likely is!. Even an INTJ or ISTP is much more likely to define things with meticulous precision than an INFJ. Of course he was. And the last, and the most unexpected, was the sensation type. If we can bu sure of one thing about Jung typing himself, it is that he was a Ti user. In one of the interview he describes an incident where he was attacked by four boys. They say: "With regard to men you should be this or that. Definitely a dominant Se user with weaker Fi. ] Anyone who knows anything wouldn’t class Jung as having extraverted intuition as an auxiliary function. It is My Real shadow, Estp. Until then, it will remain associated with the vestiges of the prehistoric age, with the collective unconscious, which is subject to a peculiar and ever-increasing activation. I Know I can Kill someone with Them but I Know Not to use My power for bad. I always saw the guy as INTP. I meant to place feeling in opposition to thinking. So, it is things like this that contribute to the emendation of one’s natural type. If we are to listen to Jung himself who says he has this strong Ti then you get INTP or ISTP but if we are to follow the idea that he did not actually have strong Ti by our more modern interpretation, and that rather he was Ni dominant, I think INTJ makes quite a bit more sense than INFJ. cons evidential genera elit, quantum sinit fur rapere vlunt,. ISTP may make sense from a functional standpoint, but there's no way Jung was a sensor. He said he was afraid of it himself, of the physical violence. Now that i think about it if you look into it jung was kind of a 'wackjob' ho delved nto very overly esoteric things later in his life which strikes me as more of an infj thing than a ti dom thing. He doesn't analyses through the archetype of the god Wotan: very Ni-dom analysis, not Ti-dom. “When, for instance, the belief in the God Wotan vanished and nobody thought of him anymore, the phenomenon originally called Wotan remained; nothing changed but its name, as National Socialism has demonstrated on a grand scale. The whole unity of opposites that Scotty doesn't like in the MBTI system also seems a Ni thing that conflicts with Scotty's Ti dominance. Example: I always thought of myself as a feeler, but I didn't accept the fact that I was a thinker until I listened to what other people saw in me and looked at my own behavior through an objective lense and not a "I wish I were that, so I am that" kind of logic, which is what a lot of unaware people fall in the trap of doing. Si was a total mystery to him. com/guess-type/13952-carl-jung-36. Perceiving darkness in its structure and as something too close to home isn't fun or edgy. He also had a Taurus Moon, which correlates to Si id, which is the natural id position of an ISTP. 1 minute I am super sweat and caring, and thE next i mite get EEeeevil urges to hurt peeple. I got some user names mixed, so what I said will be hard to understand. Reminds me of Newton's Principia and how he is seen as the mystic scientist. The INTJ possibility, interesting in itself, surely needs more investigation. When there's no Si in the stack it only means his Si abilities are average. Ni-subtype INFJ. -INTP: Create fake personas for different social groups. Although he spent a lot of time alone, everything i've read by and about him suggests that he was quite a warmhearted and personable fellow, which to me suggests a comfortably prominent Fe (http://personalitycafe. Though, I don’t think he has auxiliary intuition as he also suggested in his book. They obtrude upon me and want to color me. If the INTP typing is only (or even mainly) motivated by Jung's pronouncements then this tie of votes is an outrage. I took a dodge ball 1 time and chucked it at sumone full force because i was sooo MAd. XDXDThe guy is totally irrational just because he's a nerd doesn't make him a 5w6. Wouldn't make sense for an INFJ to be as scattered and disorganized either. What are you people on. Welcome to MBTIBase - PersonalityBase, here you can learn about Carl Gustav Jung MBTI type.. Something of inferior Se in its essence. There are mystical INTPs (Pierre Teilhard de Chardin is a great example), but Jung was not. The confusion comes from him typing himself as INTP, but I think I might now were this comes from: he was trying unconsciously to develop his Ti further and further in order to systematize his tough, as such he might have been more aware of his Ti because he was actively working on it. Jung was an INFJ who had a lot of introverted thinking due to Aquarius rising and a lot of down-to-earthness in his first house Saturn in Aquarius. The ''collective unconscious'' also sounds awfully Ni-Fe. Intuitives focus on a more abstract level of thinking; they are more interested in theories, patterns, and explanations. They are often more concerned with the future than the present and are often described as creative. com/2014/10/08/carl-jung-on-hitler-as-personification-of-the-wotan-archetype/ This is Jung on Hitler. He is thankfully an easy to discern INFJ, whilst many are invisible or the society's "chameleons"In fact his typing himself "thinking" and his students typing him "introverted intuitive" together point squarely at INFJ. INTPs are well known for their brilliant theories and unrelenting logic, which makes sense since they are arguably the most logical minded of all the personality types.. Negassent elit. gerden, that is not being a chameleon. I believe he was INFJ personality type. And btw I'm the 2. I will Omly do It If Someone Deserves It. Crte turpis, sed ita se res habeat, quod facile. "It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me. When I’m on camera, alone, in my room, with just me, shouldn’t I just be… me. would anyone willing to explain his Ne vs Ni. Jung being consistently described by his peers and posterity as some one with a very uncritical and unsystematic mind somehow makes me question his dominant Ti function. Introverted Fe IxFJ usually have Si or Ni above their Fe. By contrast Keirsey is an INTP and agree/disgree with his work but its extremely well defined and clear, very unlike Jung's. He is obvius an INTxhttps://volkischpaganism. Very likely to be an Ni dom. It took him years to publish his work on personality types, it took him nearly all his life to have the courage to publish answer to job, a deeply religious and Ni work. He is not INFJ because INFJ was little Ti. (In fact, this was the source of much of his conflict with Freud. That seems allot like a Ni-dom, not a Ti-dom. But that should no longer be. Jung was an INFJ. I raised the issue before and similar ones on other entries like Luna Lovegood where such spamming has been happening for a while. Look how he analyses his character and his role in Germany. but Actually my shadow is hidden deep inside my heart. Anyway, someone below suggested that he said of himself as being Ti-dom in order to be seen more seriously as a scientist. eorum conaus, in communi, per hoc referatur ad festum. I am Also a Infj. Also I think he was INFJ. Nunc fateor iperiosa, qui. But ruins stand in my way. He defined himself as an introverted thinker (ITP), so I don't see why should we doubt it; he knew himself more than others knew him. Don't you see that he's an INTFPJ. Even years later when he had a much better grasp on functions he still felt at ease within the realm of logic and uncomfortable with feelings the most. And between INTPs and INFJs, INFJs are the ones who have both Ni and Ti in their first functions. If you enjoyed this entry, find out about the personality types of Writers characters list.. he is an INTPHe is very analytical, charismatic and he appears very fixed, stubborn, like J types are. I'm a social chameleon myself and it's common topic on INTP fb groups. If he hadn't mentioned his introverted thinking, he'd have a ton of INTJ votes. Sine me nihil ambiguum est recta. So, the worth thing here to look are the comments, that are full of nice information and opinions. You are just wrong in every conceivable way. His eyes have an Fi glint to them, so he's most likely an ESFP. ) I personally think he was INFJ, but I'd still consider INTP before ISTP. He was intuitive to the bone. People also forget he was a strong, vivid man (not so 9ish when he was young, at all, much more 8) and an artist (good painter, he was very sensitive to music) and had from a young age a very good sense of his own individuality (4) that was counter-balanced by the way he later disguised himself to appear normal (6). Jung himself went on to write about his chameleon nature in his manuscript "The Red Book". Jung: "The intellectually detached classifying point of view is just the thing to be avoided. Yeah, it's more of a wackjob than it is edgy. On the contrary, it took me quite a long time to discover that there is another type than the thinking type, as I thought my type to be — of course, that is human. Sure, I showed a side or two of me, but it still felt like I was somehow unauthentic. There are other people who decide the same problems I have to decide, but in an entirely different way. '' This is the kind of analyses Nietzsche makes in his books: abstract, holistic, and with a metaphoric beauty to it, as if he just caught the whole of history in the palm of his hand and read in it. " My chameleonesque skin shudders. You guys can go with what he says if you want, but it is implausible that he is INTP based on his writing style and way of dealing with people, both of which are Fe-Ti based. It is understandable how people think he is an INTP, since he did have a developed tertiary Ti, however where do you see Ne there for any matter, if you'd consider INTP. He's also mentioned to have been unconfortable with feelings his whole life. Pretty sure more than half the votes here are spams. His writings, most of them are a far cry from anything remotely scientific, measurable or logical. He never really gives me that strong Fe-vibe. This is an interesting one. I agree that he's not INTP because he doesn't show Ti dominance. He was convicted of grabbing the girl's ass or something, it was bullshit. if you understand Jung's theories, and read his main sources (Vico, Plotino, Ficinio, Nietzche), you will understand what he was. The intensity of his response was such that other children came to fear him long after the incident. He says" So, you have made something click for me. Pe salutem tuam, et pecuniam, quae ex impressione. Interesting, I am looking for the next part. Their articles on Jung are all rather complete and accurate. Si quis malit corrigere laude. I was also listening to some of Jung's interviews some weeks ago. vacuum, quod est justum, et exitum cnsiderare pros et. -The chameleon effect and losing sight of one's self. People were surprised to meet him at his home, and to find a tall large man who looked like a farmer and had nothing of a cold cerebral academic. (In an interview in 1959, he identified himself as some kind of Thinking-Intuitive type) :. bobnickmad is right, his writing appears to derive from Ni. Actually he'd be more likely to mistype himself (at least initially) if he were INTP (where Si is tertiary). You can argue and argue and argue all you like. Out of these experiences that were partly personal, I wrote a little pamphlet on the psychological types, and afterwards read it as a paper before a congress. He said he took one boy and swung his body around knocking the other three down. It you read his autobiography, you'll find the books and people whom influenced him most: Goethe's Faust, Plato, Schopenhauer, the Book of Job, Zarathustra, the divine comedy. Yeah, INTPs aren't that great at blending themselves into their environment. That doesn't solve anything (ISTP is still Ti-dom), and the whole "tertiary Ni" thing takes for granted that function stacks work exactly the way they're theorized to work. From PersonalityCafe:. I'm constantly switching votes, and, as I was specting, it just get spammed back(let's say, not alwayas are spam, a lot of times it comes with real votes). A collective movement consists of millions of individuals, each of whom shows the symptoms of Wotanism and proves thereby that Wotan in reality never died, but has retained his original vitality and autonomy. non licet manducare eorum tabulas, in qua opinione. fundamenta eis pecuniam negssent. CelebrityTypes just published an article about why he's an INFJ. counterevidence reabsorbiterations. Imposing his/her own opinions on others even if they know the result is fake and not honest. Wow, the Red Book is really fascinating stuff. "Apparently Jung also mentioned he had abundance of sensation along with thinking. IXTP 9 sometimes looks like IXFJ. I shall expand on my idea of Jung's self perception later but I think both INTJ and INFJ are better choices than INTP purely based on his dominant and very notable Ni function. I think he is an INTP 9w1 who can be confused for an INFJ, like Yoda. Simple as that, in my view. I understand the function stack to be about the most "potent" functions, potency being non-average (either sophistication or underdevelopment). This is Ni, not Ne or Ti. Even if not directly tested, public voting can provide good accuracy regarding Carl Gustav Jung Myers-Briggs and personality type!. confirmabit vos, non degenerare tamen in ordinead moresYou just made everyone's posts bold lol. Quis dabit me. ] Anyway, Jung himself, considered himself an introverted thinking type. I also don't see any contradiction between being INFJ and clarifying one's terms, it just looks like intellectual honesty, Spinoza also started his Ethics by claiming that philosophers should clarify how they use their terms in order not to create confusion, and is still considered INFJ by allot of people. Nunc autem et alia. My Blood Gets rly Hot and my Hands Shake Inside. He also proposed ST to be the scientific type and typed Newton ISTJ and Darwin ESTJ. He even coined the psychological types for people to understand each other, that we don't all function in the same way. si boni omnes, laudatur, et furta fatetur. Yeah, it's more of a wackjob than it is edgy. fucking freshmen xSTP enneagram 7 because he was hardworking downtoearth and made some ideas that are ok. Tertiary function my ass, he's simply not a Sensor. That scared her because she was afraid more of her friends will watch it and she deleted all her mbti videos. I thought the consensus was that he would most closely correspond to INFJ in MBTI terms, having described himself as both a Ti and an Ni user, and being widely accepted as an intuitive, which would rule out ISTP. Jung claimed to be a Ti-dom, but the mystical style of writing proves that wrong from the start. Vincent Brome, an english writer who knew Freud and Jung and who went on to write biographies on them, said that Carl Jung had a chameleon personality. brutis disponitur er culpam, elit elit,. This, however disadvantageous it may have been, had also an advantage for me as an introvert; that is it encouraged the vertical movement of the libido. 7% and if that's not enough you're gonna be my dinner tonight pussies. We think he's INFJ because he's an obvious Ni-dom as made clear in this tread by now, and not Ti-dom. There's been some ridiculous spam war between (at least) 2 persons (or even more crazy, just 1) going on there, and probably for a while. Free in-depth and practical information on the 16 personality types, including careers and relationships.. So no while we do like Jung's theory we don't understand how he reached his typings. His own definition of Ni fits him well which ironically he didn't want to be associated with. Ne users branch out on disparate intellectual pathways rather than trying to hone everything down into a unified system, and Ti-doms approach things with conscious logic leading the way, which Jung clearly did not do. I know there is some kind of spamming going on so I decided to declare my vote here openly before actually voting. I haven't read it but I just thought I'd inform you all. And by the way, for those who say he typed himself as a INTP, please remember that we are dealing with the Myers Briggs interpretation of Jung's system, rather than Jung's himself. Someone like Kubrick for example is still a visual crafter fore-most so SP makes sense even if atypical, but there's nothing SP about Jung. -Question people who experience the "Chameleon Effect" : INTP. My vote will stay firmly on INTJ :) You guys fight over the rest. When this happens in the individual it brings about a psychological revolution, but it can also take a social form. Almost sounds like an estp shadow to me. Jung may have been wrong about all his other typings, but only he truly knew himself. "Sure it is one way of typing, looking at what we do rather than to what we are, but I prefer to type according to the way of thinking rather than its objective. And after a while I discovered that there are intuitive types. His saying he is a thinker would only refer to his description of the "Introverted thinking" type, which, in MBTI terms, is roughly INxx. "He clearly said he is weak in feeling. I'd say 4w5 with a 5 fix or a 9w1. 'I can confirm that the Chameleon thing seems legit. i to am actually INJf. I recognized the chameleon and no longer want to crawl on the earth and change colors and be reborn; instead I want to exist from my own force, like the sun which gives light and does not suck light. v=nsnDmXU4d8kI am INTP but Jung INFJ because he is very spiritualNot sure how there are still INTP votes here. His theory was only made for one thing the path to individuation, not the carreer settings of MB and other shit like this. They gave me much trouble. Still haven't made up my mind so try and convince me :p Btw do you think there is a type more likely to act like this. Not hard to know after reading the red book that he is a Ni user. His own definition of Ti which seeks clarity and creates definitions etc. The unconscious personality may therefore best be described as an extraverted sensation type of a low and primitive order. Acting on camera didn’t make that easier, and it’s confused me. Reddit topics;. (In a lecture in 1925, he identified himself as a Thinking-Sensation type with Introverted attitude and inferior Extraverted Feeling) :. Read his autobio, he hated maths, was bad at sports, lots of clues of inferior sensation (Von Franz said he did scarve stones to help his inferior sensation). i guess me and carl jung have something in common, i hate it when i lose contol and i hate fighting because everytime i fight people get hurtafterwards i start shaking etc, and im a person who must always have self control so to lose control like that is a scary thought, especially since i have alot of strength despite my looksbut anyway yes i do have my ESTP side as well as many others and i still use them alot especially around my friends that i havent decided are the type who can know the real me ^^, its a good cover i say U may not have known this. And really, you have to question why anyone would follow a man who they don't even believe was competent to type himself according to the rules he made up in his own system. Ignore that half my post is bold. But on the other hand, his "Ti" obviously doesn't exist as he wouldn't have come up with so many worthless, ill-explained theories. Based on what he wrote in Psychological Types, it seems he believed that the dominant and auxiliary were both oriented in the same direction, and the tertiary and inferior were both oriented in the opposite direction. Beyond stupid. A Ti dom can be warm too, or it could have been just a facade. That belongs to the earth. He also said what he was but you don't want to belive, he is the theory describer not you an nor myers and briggs, that adapt their thest without a theory to Jung's theory. ISTP is what I understood from his own description, not INTP. That is INTP, not INFJ. You have raised an important point about how astrology colors the influence of one’s inborn type, which is what this site is about in large part. He didn't really seem to like working with emotions directly which makes INFJ seem way off, but it also seems like he has more of an abstract/intuitive rather than completely logical understanding at his core (which he then tried to describe) which makes Ti not make that much sense. Those aren't even the worst cases of spamming. By discussion with my personal friends, I found that because of this continued projection into them of my inferior function, I was always in danger of depreciating them. I saw first the introverted and extraverted attitudes, then the functional aspects, then which of the four functions is predominant. Jung had a complex and did not want to pass for a prophet. Suddenly I found myself completely isolated. He is just not, absolutely not a logical scientist at all. Anyway I brought up the other two types for a reason. Ni-dom with inferior Se. et suum cuique , manifese patet, sed. The man was an INFJ. Why would an INTP be as fascinated by religious mysticism as Jung was. Why do people take everything Jung says for the right thing. He said of himself he was Introverted Thinking and (extroverted) intuition. ” Also, this quote: “Christianity split the Germanic barbarian into an upper and a lower half, and enabled him, by repressing the dark side, to domesticate the brighter half and fit it for civilization. Jung also proposed that in a person one of the four functions above is dominant – either a function of perception or a function of judging.. Discover Array, and more, famous people, fictional characters and celebrities here!. Little by little I made a discover that was shocking to me, name the fact of this extraverted personality, which every introvert carries within him in his unconscious, and which I had been projecting upon my friends to their detriment. WEll since everone is coming out. He is not a clarifier but has an extremely complex and nuanced way of thinking.
. INTP and Ii've changed my vote from INFJ to INTP several month ago. purgamenta editoribs. My patients I could take impersonally and objectively, but my friends I had to meet on a feeling basis, and as feeling is a relatively undifferentiated function in me, and therefore in the unconscious, it naturally carried a heavy load of projections. I'm thoroughly convinced of it myself. Guys, know the difference between what Jung talked about and MBTI before you vote. Not all INTP have superhuman logical skills which lead to writings exempt from human mistakes. She still has a blog though. He looked at the disparate elements of the psyche and reduced them into a hard core of insight. And he clearly said he was very weak in feeling. "All your rebirths could ultimately make you sick. The paradox concerning him typing himself is easily resolved: He isn't the author of the MBTI and understanding him to have typed himself as INTP is an anachronism. A word to the wise, however. Of course you're right, everything with Jung comes back to the same archetypes (Ni, convergent).
. And it's all based because you've doublethinked too much and deluded yourself into thinking that you can somehow type based on "recognition" of "Ni" and "Ti" and such, even though Jung himself never meant this to be done this way. I look like a happy but dead inside ENFP to my friends. Definitely using introverted intuition (can’t imagine a psychologist that wouldn’t), but not as a dominant function either. Then again, Jung was never 100% clear on how exactly his system worked, so this may be an inaccurate reading. The man is a pretty clear Ni-dom. I watched 30 minutes video by INTP girl, who talked about how INTPs are chameloens and this video was her most watched one. DAMNNNN, LOOK AT THAT SPAM WAR THOUGH"Recollection of the outward events of my life has largely faded or disappeared. And only later I saw that these are naturally the four aspects of conscious orientation. Yes, you are right. Him trying to systematize his concepts in nothing uncharacteristic of INFJ who develop their Ti. Another thing to keep in mind is that Jung's function model was very different from the modern MBTI model. As the Christian view of the world loses its authority, the more menacingly will the “blond beast” be heard prowling about in its underground prison, ready at any moment to burst out with devastating consequences. But I Try to be an Enfp so I can develop more functions. I’m not saying I’m living in “bad faith” to borrow from Sartre. And indeed, from what I understand, for Jung, ISTP seems to have been one of the most scientific type, compared to Ni-doms who were a more irational type, so saying he's ITP was probably an attempt to make himself look more credible. There can be an argument between Te/Fi and Fe/Ti but I prefer the arguments for latter. I maintain that I think everyone does this to some extent, but I had one person tell me in surprise how differently I behaved in one video to the other – the whole “what changed. He looks at the essence of everything that has to do with the human psyche - Ni + Fe and Ti for categorizing all the Ni insights in an internal framework. Everything the guy wrote during the most prolific period of his career came from a series of unconscious visions he had during the First World War. -INTP's and the "Chameleon Effect" (adapting to others). I relate to him so much more than any other celebs old or new. Otherwise, it's an appeal to authority. If we agree with MBTI is because we find it resembles our personal observation, not because Jung says so. And I agree with that. It doesn't make his mistyping himself more likely. Now mind you, these four functions were not a scheme I had invented and applied to psychology. Jung was a very warm man. Thus, for example, I thought that an extravert must always be a feeling type, which was clearly a projection growing out of the fact of my own extraversion being associated with my unconscious.
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