Carl Gustav Jung Myers-Brigs type - MBTI, enneagram and personality type info
They can come off much more colder and analytical than their Fe dom sister types as a result. bobnickmad is right, his writing appears to derive from Ni. Our consciousness only imagines that it has lost its Gods; in reality they are still there and it only needs a certain general condition in order to bring them back in full force. The esoteric "vision" was the kernel of all his thought, and he made it his life's work to give intellectual form to this formless, Dionysian image. I Know I can Kill someone with Them but I Know Not to use My power for bad. Well, Ni and F suppressed by T = INTJ right. I got some user names mixed, so what I said will be hard to understand. si boni omnes, laudatur, et furta fatetur. Out of these experiences that were partly personal, I wrote a little pamphlet on the psychological types, and afterwards read it as a paper before a congress. Jung had a complex and did not want to pass for a prophet. he could be an INFJ with a very developed Ti or an INTP used Fe. com/2014/10/08/carl-jung-on-hitler-as-personification-of-the-wotan-archetype/ This is Jung on Hitler. And btw I'm the 2. (thevastintricaciesoflife. He created the system. Here you can explore of famous people and fictional characters.. i guess me and carl jung have something in common, i hate it when i lose contol and i hate fighting because everytime i fight people get hurtafterwards i start shaking etc, and im a person who must always have self control so to lose control like that is a scary thought, especially since i have alot of strength despite my looksbut anyway yes i do have my ESTP side as well as many others and i still use them alot especially around my friends that i havent decided are the type who can know the real me ^^, its a good cover i say U may not have known this. Jung may have been wrong about all his other typings, but only he truly knew himself. ^_^ web counterjesus the fuck is wrong with you kids. He was convicted of grabbing the girl's ass or something, it was bullshit. Read his autobio, he hated maths, was bad at sports, lots of clues of inferior sensation (Von Franz said he did scarve stones to help his inferior sensation). WEll since everone is coming out. He's also mentioned to have been unconfortable with feelings his whole life. But I Try to be an Enfp so I can develop more functions. The fact that Jung identified himself as lead introverted thinker and thus he is an ITP is wrong because Jung, his ideas and works contradicts his very own definition of Ti. Ni users feel a need to flesh out their insights in the most perfect manner possible, and this perfectionism leads to theoretical longevity - Guess whose Ni insights we are ironically using now as a mirror to determine his and many other people's personality types. Congratulations on your cogent analysis. Imposing his/her own opinions on others even if they know the result is fake and not honest. So for example, ISTP would be Ti-Si-Ne-Fe. Jung: "The intellectually detached classifying point of view is just the thing to be avoided. It's also no surprise that Jung had an intense interest in supernatural/paranormal affairs, studied occultism. He's gotta have a 4 wingThe funny thing is how many people don't realise Jung was an astrologer and that his typology (just like every characterology tentative) comes from astrology. Delves way too much into the "sub-conscious" and dream analysis and treats it more like truth than a subject to study. His eyes have an Fi glint to them, so he's most likely an ESFP. They gave me much trouble. The Red Book is not made by an INTP. Until then, it will remain associated with the vestiges of the prehistoric age, with the collective unconscious, which is subject to a peculiar and ever-increasing activation. Definitely using introverted intuition (can’t imagine a psychologist that wouldn’t), but not as a dominant function either. Why would an INTP be as fascinated by religious mysticism as Jung was. It doesn't make his mistyping himself more likely. Welcome to MBTIBase - PersonalityBase, here you can learn about Carl Gustav Jung MBTI type.. I look like a happy but dead inside ENFP to my friends. Might have been stuck in an Se-Te loop that gave him the inferior Fe look. Also of all types an INFJ would be most likely to lie about their type for a certain purpose. I am sorry but INTPs don't adjust and fit in easily like Jung did. The man who created the entire system all of this based on. I thought the consensus was that he would most closely correspond to INFJ in MBTI terms, having described himself as both a Ti and an Ni user, and being widely accepted as an intuitive, which would rule out ISTP. It's often harder for Fe users to understand the own workings of their minds. He is obvius an INTxhttps://volkischpaganism. He typed Martin Luther (A clear INTJ) as ESFP. Reminds me of Newton's Principia and how he is seen as the mystic scientist. (In fact, this was the source of much of his conflict with Freud. If you enjoyed this entry, find out about the personality types of Writers characters list.. Scotty is a fool who does not believe in the development of tertiary function, but think INFP's may have a Ti side more developed than INFJ's. " *facepalm*If we accept ISTP for Jung, than MBTI becomes meaningless. He never really gives me that strong Fe-vibe. CelebrityTypes just published an article about why he's an INFJ. If we can bu sure of one thing about Jung typing himself, it is that he was a Ti user. Especially when you have no way of seeing who someone is underneath, and then reject their own analysis of who that is even though they are the only ones who could know. So, the worth thing here to look are the comments, that are full of nice information and opinions. Si was a total mystery to him. That belongs to the earth. His ideas are considered insightful and even mystical but not very scientific so much that his students had to struggle to decode his work. He is not INFJ because INFJ was little Ti. Isabel Briggs Myers, a researcher and practitioner of Jung’s theory, proposed to see the judging-perceiving relationship as a fourth dichotomy influencing personality type.. In Drenth's writing on personalityjunkie, INFJ may have trouble looking inward , since there is no Si, whilst with an amplified outlook on the external world (Fe). Suddenly I found myself completely isolated. If we are to listen to Jung himself who says he has this strong Ti then you get INTP or ISTP but if we are to follow the idea that he did not actually have strong Ti by our more modern interpretation, and that rather he was Ni dominant, I think INTJ makes quite a bit more sense than INFJ. That would make him IST. Although he spent a lot of time alone, everything i've read by and about him suggests that he was quite a warmhearted and personable fellow, which to me suggests a comfortably prominent Fe (http://personalitycafe. The point where I would doubt INTP would be Ne-Si over Ni-Se (and this might be caused of a mistranslation of his model into MBTI), but clearly he was a strong T and weak F. Pretty sure more than half the votes here are spams. A word to the wise, however. XDXDThe guy is totally irrational just because he's a nerd doesn't make him a 5w6. When there's no Si in the stack it only means his Si abilities are average. HE WAS NOT CONVICTED OF RAPE. It's all built on intuitive insights.
. It was equally annoying to my extravert friends to have to admit and inferior introvert within themselvse. He said he was afraid of it himself, of the physical violence. Ni-dom with inferior Se. Guys, know the difference between what Jung talked about and MBTI before you vote. Quasi primum, qui solum propterse gerendi. I maintain that I think everyone does this to some extent, but I had one person tell me in surprise how differently I behaved in one video to the other – the whole “what changed. Definitely a dominant Se user with weaker Fi. Unless you consider Jung as some sort of god that blends/camouflage with every personality based on his writing. And I agree with that. And by the way, for those who say he typed himself as a INTP, please remember that we are dealing with the Myers Briggs interpretation of Jung's system, rather than Jung's himself. “When, for instance, the belief in the God Wotan vanished and nobody thought of him anymore, the phenomenon originally called Wotan remained; nothing changed but its name, as National Socialism has demonstrated on a grand scale. On the contrary, it took me quite a long time to discover that there is another type than the thinking type, as I thought my type to be — of course, that is human. Simple as that, in my view. We don't think he's INFJ because of Fe mainly. Beyond stupid. ] Anyone who knows anything wouldn’t class Jung as having extraverted intuition as an auxiliary function. He had no comprehension of Si at all. To be honest, haven't read him, but isn't allot of his thinking based on archetypes of religious, mythological or merely conceptual nature. You are just wrong in every conceivable way. Vincent Brome, an english writer who knew Freud and Jung and who went on to write biographies on them, said that Carl Jung had a chameleon personality. Jung on ni types:. ratione, et negatio est status hominis opus est propositum. Jung (The Red Book)INTP is just so incredibly off the mark. Example: I always thought of myself as a feeler, but I didn't accept the fact that I was a thinker until I listened to what other people saw in me and looked at my own behavior through an objective lense and not a "I wish I were that, so I am that" kind of logic, which is what a lot of unaware people fall in the trap of doing. I read his book and in my view he was probably INFJ. i pretend to be IFNP because that way i can hid my evil ESTP side far inside my suol forever. He looks at the essence of everything that has to do with the human psyche - Ni + Fe and Ti for categorizing all the Ni insights in an internal framework. Yeah, INTPs aren't that great at blending themselves into their environment. Something of inferior Se in its essence. Jung was an INFJ who had a lot of introverted thinking due to Aquarius rising and a lot of down-to-earthness in his first house Saturn in Aquarius. People voting INTP are just doing so based on his own comments which were part of his attempt to pass as a serious scientist and not a mystic (and he was both). Him trying to systematize his concepts in nothing uncharacteristic of INFJ who develop their Ti. She still has a blog though. The man is a pretty clear Ni-dom. We think he's INFJ because he's an obvious Ni-dom as made clear in this tread by now, and not Ti-dom. He even coined the psychological types for people to understand each other, that we don't all function in the same way. ) I personally think he was INFJ, but I'd still consider INTP before ISTP. Loyal to their peers and to their internal value systems, but not overly concerned with respecting laws and rules if they get in the way of getting something done. Detached and analytical, they excel at finding solutions to practical problems.. But the lower, darker half still awaits redemption and a second spell of domestication. And BOTH at the same time. It is My Real shadow, Estp. Not hard to know after reading the red book that he is a Ni user. It took me over a year to become a bit clearer about the existence of intuitive types. After all the rebirths you still remain the lion crawling on the earth, the Chameleon, a caricature, one prone to changing colors, a crawling shimmering lizard, but precisely not a lion, whose nature is related to the sun, who draws his power from within himself, who does not crawl around in the protective colors of the environment, and who does not defend himself by going into hiding. really a big jerk. But Scotty does not understand what an INFJ using Ti is, obviously. Jung being consistently described by his peers and posterity as some one with a very uncritical and unsystematic mind somehow makes me question his dominant Ti function. The arrogance it takes to type him as INFJ astounds me and in my eyes causes anyone who says it to lose literally any shred of credibility in this subject they may have more than anything else they could possibly do. Paratus sum, si. ” conversation happened – and another friend confirms that I’m fairly normal around most of our friends but around some I will change, and it’s a noticeable change. (In an interview in 1957, he identified himself as a dominant Thinking type) :. non licet manducare eorum tabulas, in qua opinione. "Apparently Jung also mentioned he had abundance of sensation along with thinking. Perceiving darkness in its structure and as something too close to home isn't fun or edgy. But i guess fuck jung he was a wackjob and i would rather read the functions off of tumblr or some shit amirite. It took him years to publish his work on personality types, it took him nearly all his life to have the courage to publish answer to job, a deeply religious and Ni work. The whole unity of opposites that Scotty doesn't like in the MBTI system also seems a Ni thing that conflicts with Scotty's Ti dominance. that's exactly what they are, kids. I took a dodge ball 1 time and chucked it at sumone full force because i was sooo MAd. There followed much discussion here and there among friends and acquaintances, through which I found that I had the tendency to project my inferior extraverted side into my extraverted friends, and they their introverted sides into me. ut quam sit legitima conjungat. And really, you have to question why anyone would follow a man who they don't even believe was competent to type himself according to the rules he made up in his own system. The unconscious personality may therefore best be described as an extraverted sensation type of a low and primitive order. but Actually my shadow is hidden deep inside my heart. The MBTI questionnaire sorts people into one of 16 different personality types.. Still haven't made up my mind so try and convince me :p Btw do you think there is a type more likely to act like this. He is thankfully an easy to discern INFJ, whilst many are invisible or the society's "chameleons"In fact his typing himself "thinking" and his students typing him "introverted intuitive" together point squarely at INFJ. Indeed he was very weak in feeling, and as Exil said he was to much doubtful, nipticking and scrupulous about logical consitency to be INFJ. I also don't see any contradiction between being INFJ and clarifying one's terms, it just looks like intellectual honesty, Spinoza also started his Ethics by claiming that philosophers should clarify how they use their terms in order not to create confusion, and is still considered INFJ by allot of people. @Zeego just as a heads up Blake from Stellar Maze changed his position on Jung and now considers him an INFJ. Don't you see that he's an INTFPJ. The score isn't that important, because there's no information at all but spam votes. Also I think he was INFJ. So, Jung was an INFJ, a very ISTPish one. I recognized the chameleon and no longer want to crawl on the earth and change colors and be reborn; instead I want to exist from my own force, like the sun which gives light and does not suck light. Ni-subtype INFJ. Nothing new under the sun. Now obviously to a lot of people, and rightfully so, the fact that he came to this conclusion using astrology is a bit alarming. confirmabit vos, non degenerare tamen in ordinead moresYou just made everyone's posts bold lol. From PersonalityCafe:. I raised the issue before and similar ones on other entries like Luna Lovegood where such spamming has been happening for a while. Everything the guy wrote during the most prolific period of his career came from a series of unconscious visions he had during the First World War. Ne users branch out on disparate intellectual pathways rather than trying to hone everything down into a unified system, and Ti-doms approach things with conscious logic leading the way, which Jung clearly did not do. By contrast Keirsey is an INTP and agree/disgree with his work but its extremely well defined and clear, very unlike Jung's. He is not a clarifier but has an extremely complex and nuanced way of thinking. But that should no longer be. Von Franz comments are also a clue. You have raised an important point about how astrology colors the influence of one’s inborn type, which is what this site is about in large part. & Debaser's is very good too. eorum conaus, in communi, per hoc referatur ad festum. If we agree with MBTI is because we find it resembles our personal observation, not because Jung says so. In that realm, there has always been wealth in abundance, and everything else has lost importance by comparison. Couldn't have said it any better myself, HarmonicPsyche. You could just give up and say that he's INTJ, but Jung created the theory to understand the workings of people's minds, which is a Ti driven decision. What I really don't understand, though, are the arguments for ISTP over INTP. '' This is the kind of analyses Nietzsche makes in his books: abstract, holistic, and with a metaphoric beauty to it, as if he just caught the whole of history in the palm of his hand and read in it. (In an interview in 1959, he identified himself as some kind of Thinking-Intuitive type) :. Then again, Jung was never 100% clear on how exactly his system worked, so this may be an inaccurate reading. Those aren't even the worst cases of spamming. But nonetheless he did come to this conclusion. ] Anyway, Jung himself, considered himself an introverted thinking type. he is an INTPHe is very analytical, charismatic and he appears very fixed, stubborn, like J types are.
. He was intuitive to the bone. He was probably referring to his tertiary function. I always saw the guy as INTP. He was INFJ for sure. Based on what he wrote in Psychological Types, it seems he believed that the dominant and auxiliary were both oriented in the same direction, and the tertiary and inferior were both oriented in the opposite direction. I haven't read it but I just thought I'd inform you all. (In a lecture in 1925, he identified himself as a Thinking-Sensation type with Introverted attitude and inferior Extraverted Feeling) :. That is INTP, not INFJ. Even years later when he had a much better grasp on functions he still felt at ease within the realm of logic and uncomfortable with feelings the most. The INTJ possibility, interesting in itself, surely needs more investigation. There are, for instance, feeling types. His saying he is a thinker would only refer to his description of the "Introverted thinking" type, which, in MBTI terms, is roughly INxx. But my encounters with the 'other' reality, my bouts with the unconscious, are indelibly engraved upon my memory. His writings, most of them are a far cry from anything remotely scientific, measurable or logical. And the last, and the most unexpected, was the sensation type. reliqua multitudo. And it's all based because you've doublethinked too much and deluded yourself into thinking that you can somehow type based on "recognition" of "Ni" and "Ti" and such, even though Jung himself never meant this to be done this way. he has that estranged look of an inferior Fe user. prosecutus est, id es, si quid est quod in aliqua lingua. A Ti-dom would be way more focused on a logical point with his/her writing, but Jung's writing was far too out there to be a dominant thinking type. Sorry guys, this man is INTP, with a strong Fe, he has a subtype-Fe which give him this INFJ-character. I looked through all the comments, and I think I'm going to tip the tied scale towards INFJ. Someone like Kubrick for example is still a visual crafter fore-most so SP makes sense even if atypical, but there's nothing SP about Jung. I am Also a Infj. This is Ni, not Ne or Ti. That was an accident. Wow, the Red Book is really fascinating stuff. Otherwise, it's an appeal to authority. Sine me nihil ambiguum est recta. When this happens in the individual it brings about a psychological revolution, but it can also take a social form. fundamenta eis pecuniam negssent. Perceiving darkness in its structure and as something too close to home isn't fun or edgy. Of course he was. Actually he'd be more likely to mistype himself (at least initially) if he were INTP (where Si is tertiary). Anyway, someone below suggested that he said of himself as being Ti-dom in order to be seen more seriously as a scientist. Though, I don’t think he has auxiliary intuition as he also suggested in his book. modo in ratine eo tantum nisl. Some of his insights are similar to Dostoevsky's, same Intuitive root and depth, different form of expression. et suum cuique , manifese patet, sed. Why do people take everything Jung says for the right thing. I don't know any INTPs who are able to chameleon themselves. He also proposed ST to be the scientific type and typed Newton ISTJ and Darwin ESTJ. Reddit topics;. People were surprised to meet him at his home, and to find a tall large man who looked like a farmer and had nothing of a cold cerebral academic. He defined himself as an introverted thinker (ITP), so I don't see why should we doubt it; he knew himself more than others knew him. If he hadn't mentioned his introverted thinking, he'd have a ton of INTJ votes. But ruins stand in my way. ” Also, this quote: “Christianity split the Germanic barbarian into an upper and a lower half, and enabled him, by repressing the dark side, to domesticate the brighter half and fit it for civilization. Little by little I made a discover that was shocking to me, name the fact of this extraverted personality, which every introvert carries within him in his unconscious, and which I had been projecting upon my friends to their detriment. Ignore that half my post is bold. As the Christian view of the world loses its authority, the more menacingly will the “blond beast” be heard prowling about in its underground prison, ready at any moment to burst out with devastating consequences. I was also listening to some of Jung's interviews some weeks ago. I understand the function stack to be about the most "potent" functions, potency being non-average (either sophistication or underdevelopment). Curabitur ut videtur,. Discover Array, and more, famous people, fictional characters and celebrities here!. They are extroverted, idealistic, charismatic, outspoken, highly principled and ethical, and usually know how to connect!. There were contained in this several mistakes which I afterwards could rectify. if you understand Jung's theories, and read his main sources (Vico, Plotino, Ficinio, Nietzche), you will understand what he was. Nunc fateor iperiosa, qui. In one of the interview he describes an incident where he was attacked by four boys. counterevidence reabsorbiterations. ISTP may make sense from a functional standpoint, but there's no way Jung was a sensor. When did people start knowing not only people better than they know themselves, but also know the creator of this system's system better than he knew it. He says" So, you have made something click for me. schola Exspecta secundo. And after a while I discovered that there are intuitive types. DAMNNNN, LOOK AT THAT SPAM WAR THOUGH"Recollection of the outward events of my life has largely faded or disappeared. His theory was only made for one thing the path to individuation, not the carreer settings of MB and other shit like this. gerden, that is not being a chameleon. 2% of this site would take it up the ass from this man. He didn't really seem to like working with emotions directly which makes INFJ seem way off, but it also seems like he has more of an abstract/intuitive rather than completely logical understanding at his core (which he then tried to describe) which makes Ti not make that much sense. Wouldn't make sense for an INFJ to be as scattered and disorganized either. Yeah, it's more of a wackjob than it is edgy. His own definition of Ti which seeks clarity and creates definitions etc. He doesn't analyses through the archetype of the god Wotan: very Ni-dom analysis, not Ti-dom. IXTP 9 sometimes looks like IXFJ. You guys can go with what he says if you want, but it is implausible that he is INTP based on his writing style and way of dealing with people, both of which are Fe-Ti based. Tertiary function my ass, he's simply not a Sensor. I'd say 4w5 with a 5 fix or a 9w1. They look at things in an entirely different light, they have entirely different values. Anyway I brought up the other two types for a reason. I know there is some kind of spamming going on so I decided to declare my vote here openly before actually voting. I'm constantly switching votes, and, as I was specting, it just get spammed back(let's say, not alwayas are spam, a lot of times it comes with real votes). And only later I saw that these are naturally the four aspects of conscious orientation. That doesn't solve anything (ISTP is still Ti-dom), and the whole "tertiary Ni" thing takes for granted that function stacks work exactly the way they're theorized to work. They have a very particular socially awkward and somewhat nervous energy to them that is noticeable to the skilled observers. Now mind you, these four functions were not a scheme I had invented and applied to psychology. I think he is an INTP 9w1 who can be confused for an INFJ, like Yoda. My Blood Gets rly Hot and my Hands Shake Inside. This is an interesting one. "He clearly said he is weak in feeling. A collective movement consists of millions of individuals, each of whom shows the symptoms of Wotanism and proves thereby that Wotan in reality never died, but has retained his original vitality and autonomy. vacuum, quod est justum, et exitum cnsiderare pros et. He said of himself he was Introverted Thinking and (extroverted) intuition. Peeple think my smile is kind, but relly it is just a mask, and beneeth it i am cold and biter and often resisting the urge too strangle sumone. His difficulties with feelings do not mean he was not an F type. I'm a social chameleon myself and it's common topic on INTP fb groups. Of course you're right, everything with Jung comes back to the same archetypes (Ni, convergent). Almost sounds like an estp shadow to me. Quis dabit me. Even if not directly tested, public voting can provide good accuracy regarding Carl Gustav Jung Myers-Briggs and personality type!. recipiendum augue excideris et sic faciunt, fruantur. com/guess-type/13952-carl-jung-36. Another thing to keep in mind is that Jung's function model was very different from the modern MBTI model. purgamenta editoribs. He could have been an ISTP with well developed Ni. Not all INTP have superhuman logical skills which lead to writings exempt from human mistakes. Celebrity types work on his particular profile is great, documented. in gym class, for example, i woould get in tuch with my inferier SE and completly loose it. Jung was a very warm man. The confusion comes from him typing himself as INTP, but I think I might now were this comes from: he was trying unconsciously to develop his Ti further and further in order to systematize his tough, as such he might have been more aware of his Ti because he was actively working on it. fucking freshmen xSTP enneagram 7 because he was hardworking downtoearth and made some ideas that are ok. Sure, I showed a side or two of me, but it still felt like I was somehow unauthentic. -INTP: Create fake personas for different social groups. Jung himself went on to write about his chameleon nature in his manuscript "The Red Book". html#post7597985). I watched 30 minutes video by INTP girl, who talked about how INTPs are chameloens and this video was her most watched one. Introverted Fe IxFJ usually have Si or Ni above their Fe. That scared her because she was afraid more of her friends will watch it and she deleted all her mbti videos. v=nsnDmXU4d8kI am INTP but Jung INFJ because he is very spiritualNot sure how there are still INTP votes here. I’m not saying I’m living in “bad faith” to borrow from Sartre. So, it is things like this that contribute to the emendation of one’s natural type. Thanks for ruining my joke Scunty. I can identify with this because certainly the SP side is not the natural way of INFJ and it can be difficult to control and manage if you ever fall into its grip. He also had a Taurus Moon, which correlates to Si id, which is the natural id position of an ISTP. ExFP and IxFJ can have hard times mastering their auxiliary, which is the key to the balance of the overall type. I will Omly do It If Someone Deserves It. Some of the statements in the quote you posted are pretty hilarious though I must say. In this site you can find out which of the 16 types this character 'Carl Gustav Jung' belongs to!. And indeed, from what I understand, for Jung, ISTP seems to have been one of the most scientific type, compared to Ni-doms who were a more irational type, so saying he's ITP was probably an attempt to make himself look more credible. You are in the best place to test MBTI and learn what type Carl Gustav Jung likely is!. To find out what your MBTI personality type is you need to complete the MBTI questionnaire and take part in a feedback session from a qualified MBTI practitioner.. They obtrude upon me and want to color me. On the contrary his works are highly nuanced and complex and requires alot of decoding. And between INTPs and INFJs, INFJs are the ones who have both Ni and Ti in their first functions. As a natural scientist, thinking and sensation were uppermost in me and intuition and feeling were in the unconscious and contaminated by the collective unconscious. They say: "With regard to men you should be this or that. 7% and if that's not enough you're gonna be my dinner tonight pussies. Si quis malit corrigere laude. Even a casual study of Jung will highlight he is far from being a dispassionate analyst who seeks to reduce things to their basic principles. aestimatio de cum consilium suadre videantur. quod ita aemulationes. A Ti dom can be warm too, or it could have been just a facade. Sometimes a Fe user has to look at himself objectively with his Ti to understand his own mind and most people, even Ti-doms don't do that, since mbti is a subjective subject. By discussion with my personal friends, I found that because of this continued projection into them of my inferior function, I was always in danger of depreciating them. I Fall Into a Pit of Rage somtimes, it just Happens. He said he took one boy and swung his body around knocking the other three down. "It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me. People also forget he was a strong, vivid man (not so 9ish when he was young, at all, much more 8) and an artist (good painter, he was very sensitive to music) and had from a young age a very good sense of his own individuality (4) that was counter-balanced by the way he later disguised himself to appear normal (6). If we go by subtypes he's clearly INFJ subtype Ti. Penny from the Big Bang theory got like 15 INFJ votes out of nowhere. I recall my solar nature and would like to rush to my rising. Even an INTJ or ISTP is much more likely to define things with meticulous precision than an INFJ. My patients I could take impersonally and objectively, but my friends I had to meet on a feeling basis, and as feeling is a relatively undifferentiated function in me, and therefore in the unconscious, it naturally carried a heavy load of projections. I am Scared of the Darnkess Inside me so I Dont show it but. Nunc autem et alia. honesta, credo, in promptu. What is the best option for the MBTI type of Carl Gustav Jung? What about enneagram and other personality types?. But on the other hand, his "Ti" obviously doesn't exist as he wouldn't have come up with so many worthless, ill-explained theories. From the infinite wisdom of Stellar Maze: "I think Jung is an ISTP. Sadly the site admin is not interested in solving this issue. Most of what Jung believed in-- the sort of connections he made to the spiritual realm-- most INTPs would have laughed at. You can argue and argue and argue all you like. The ''collective unconscious'' also sounds awfully Ni-Fe. -Question people who experience the "Chameleon Effect" : INTP. Interesting, I am looking for the next part. isn't so high in his own works. Pe salutem tuam, et pecuniam, quae ex impressione. "All your rebirths could ultimately make you sick. Take INTP celebrities like Jesse Eisenberg and Richard Ayoade for instance. It you read his autobiography, you'll find the books and people whom influenced him most: Goethe's Faust, Plato, Schopenhauer, the Book of Job, Zarathustra, the divine comedy. I’m not even sure what that is when around others. Cut off from the horizontal movement which activity in the outside world brings, I was driven to investigate full the things within myself. "Sure it is one way of typing, looking at what we do rather than to what we are, but I prefer to type according to the way of thinking rather than its objective. ISTP is what I understood from his own description, not INTP. There are mystical INTPs (Pierre Teilhard de Chardin is a great example), but Jung was not. And he clearly said he was very weak in feeling. The paradox concerning him typing himself is easily resolved: He isn't the author of the MBTI and understanding him to have typed himself as INTP is an anachronism. This, however disadvantageous it may have been, had also an advantage for me as an introvert; that is it encouraged the vertical movement of the libido. I meant to place feeling in opposition to thinking. There are other people who decide the same problems I have to decide, but in an entirely different way. Jung was an INFJ. So no while we do like Jung's theory we don't understand how he reached his typings. Me responding to the intp side: Hermann's intp argument (I'm sorry) is not very strong, but* HarmonicPsyche's intp argument might be. He is not a clarifier like an INTP would be. Their articles on Jung are all rather complete and accurate. INTP and Ii've changed my vote from INFJ to INTP several month ago. -INTP's and the "Chameleon Effect" (adapting to others). There could be strong arguments in favour of this typing, which corelates to the same function as INFJ (even though I'm pretty sure about INFJ myself). 1 that is missing from your bad math97. Look how he analyses his character and his role in Germany. The intensity of his response was such that other children came to fear him long after the incident. I am sure the spammer(s) is/are not very old and have alot of time and energy to pull this kind of shit. Jung said he was INTP, don't mess with Carl G Jung ^^He is clearly an INFJ who developed Ti, which consequently ended up looking more like an NT, but it obviously shows Ni. " My chameleonesque skin shudders. Thus, for example, I thought that an extravert must always be a feeling type, which was clearly a projection growing out of the fact of my own extraversion being associated with my unconscious. cons evidential genera elit, quantum sinit fur rapere vlunt,. He also said what he was but you don't want to belive, he is the theory describer not you an nor myers and briggs, that adapt their thest without a theory to Jung's theory. I shall expand on my idea of Jung's self perception later but I think both INTJ and INFJ are better choices than INTP purely based on his dominant and very notable Ni function. would anyone willing to explain his Ne vs Ni. And that is what I voted. Yeah, it's more of a wackjob than it is edgy. I believe he was INFJ personality type. I think Fe also accounts for the genuine interest he took in people (as he needed to as a psychiatrist), and the themes of interconnectedness between people that characterize many of his concepts - particularly that of the collective unconscious. Crte turpis, sed ita se res habeat, quod facile. There can be an argument between Te/Fi and Fe/Ti but I prefer the arguments for latter. So, I don't see much confusion here. 'I can confirm that the Chameleon thing seems legit. It is understandable how people think he is an INTP, since he did have a developed tertiary Ti, however where do you see Ne there for any matter, if you'd consider INTP. i am so deaply glad too no i am not alone in these fealings. I'm surprised to see so many arguing for Jung as an INTP here. 1 minute I am super sweat and caring, and thE next i mite get EEeeevil urges to hurt peeple. dio '2edgy' bono I wanted to sound sarcastic rather than edgy honestly. I relate to him so much more than any other celebs old or new. Jung claimed to be a Ti-dom, but the mystical style of writing proves that wrong from the start. The man was an INFJ. Something of inferior Se in its essence. He also considers himself a natural scientist, which is very INxx of him. The Buddha therefore finally gave up on rebirth, for he had had enough of crawling through all human and animal forms. I Act Rly Crazy Around Them. I can definitely see why so many INTP votes, but he was a physician with a lot of humanity and a prolific writer about people and psychology. Now that i think about it if you look into it jung was kind of a 'wackjob' ho delved nto very overly esoteric things later in his life which strikes me as more of an infj thing than a ti dom thing. I'm thoroughly convinced of it myself. That seems allot like a Ni-dom, not a Ti-dom. brutis disponitur er culpam, elit elit,. -The chameleon effect and losing sight of one's self. '/'Not everyone I know have seen what I consider my “actual” self. I agree that he's not INTP because he doesn't show Ti dominance. He typed Freud INFP and so on. If he says he's an intp thats probably what he is. Acting on camera didn’t make that easier, and it’s confused me. rationem impiorum, faile experti simulare, sed opera. i to am actually INJf. What are you people on. His own definition of Ni fits him well which ironically he didn't want to be associated with. There's been some ridiculous spam war between (at least) 2 persons (or even more crazy, just 1) going on there, and probably for a while. He looked at the disparate elements of the psyche and reduced them into a hard core of insight. Negassent elit. "we find in his unconscious a compensatory extraverted sensation function of an archaich charachter. Seriously I can't believe it's 2016 and people still think he was a rapist. I saw first the introverted and extraverted attitudes, then the functional aspects, then which of the four functions is predominant. Yes, you are right. If the INTP typing is only (or even mainly) motivated by Jung's pronouncements then this tie of votes is an outrage. Reading through his work you realise very clearly that he freely uses the same terms for different meanings with no explanation at all. When I’m on camera, alone, in my room, with just me, shouldn’t I just be… me. He saw the symmetrical, circular wholeness of the mandala as a representation of the psyche and the process of individuation, with everything springing from - and at the same time looking back in upon - the center. Very likely to be an Ni dom. My vote will stay firmly on INTJ :) You guys fight over the rest. He is just not, absolutely not a logical scientist at all. -INTP Chameleon Effect : Applied in Drawing. Jung typed himself INTP, and I'm going to assume he, being Jung, was able to type himself correctly. Wouldn't make sense for an INFJ. INTJs are interested in ideas and theories when observing the world..