David Lynch Myers-Brigs type - MBTI, enneagram and personality type info
Basically, since Ni is usually clouded by Ne, it tends to not show at the surface of most INFPs, but is actually an important part of their psyche, it's just its domain is limited and put to serve Ne. His obsesion with 'ideas' and 'dreams' is probably a fascination to a 3rd Ni he likes diving in but still feels like weird teritory, his obsesion with Transcendental Mediation is likely a fascination with tertiary Ni. It was a cheap movie but he build the props manually. And he's flipping one puzzle piece at a time into me. However, seeing as how he is very structured in his everyday life, maybe he isn't really inferior in Te. Robert Crumb is sx/sp; look at the man and then his work, do they match. As I understand, Se users can get very angry and scary suddenly, and just as suddenly cool down, while Si users come of as less scary in the moment but takes them more time to cool off, as if Si users are a storm passing by while Se users are a thunder. I didn't think of it. Not saying INFJs are bad. Also notice how he's constantly talking about his family and analyzing which actors he relates to and doesn't, basically like me and bobnickmad are constantly doing on this site, lol. But he's comSurrealism = Absurd, random, quirky, wild kind of intuition (Ne) + lack of logical coherence (not Ti) = xNFP. @fuckboy: "hello to" is always right though, so you must listen. But what confuses me is that I have never seen an ISFP 5w4 before. This is way too funny. He even has one character turn a running garden hose in the direction of the camera for a moment, as if he is peeing at the audience. = Introverted. Look, only because I type this people ISP, it doesn't mean their movie aren't meaningful. There will also be sporadic, Ni-like mysteriousness though, and of course moral concerns, authenticity etc. Next discussion topic, do you guys think it would be evil for me to actively try to break up Winding Refn's marriage or do I need to just patiently wait :(Well, to be fair - in my last post I was arguing that the elements of Neon Demon that thedude calls "sick Se" or something is in fact general Fi. What would an artistic, anti-social ISFJ look like. I suppose it's possible that David developed his Ni through that as well. Yeah, INFP spamming. On the other hand I can imagine an ISFP. It's just a streak in him. Also, butterfly probably want she and Refn to remain the only INFPs on the planet, because it's a match made in heaven or something. Another thing is that few ISFPs are interested in MBTI, or very good at it, and can thus defend themselves. " - David Lynch. Actually, Eraserhead is incredibly Se. Isn't Kubrick way too similar with these people to say he's S but the other N. )I want to make movies so girls would obsess over me on internet forums. My only addition is the separation into clouded and unclouded function. His main ability lies in knowing how particular sensations feel like, not articulating abstract ideas or relatable emotions. I also realized that in order to remain consistent to my system, I have to change Van Gogh to an ISFP (aesthete-dreamer). Also I feel Lynch's depiction of small town life may just as well be a Se thing. Finally, it's not just Lynch's hair. Anyway I find #butterfly comment that I don't wanna agree with her weird since I did agreed with Myazaki, Mann and later even Gaiman, and I never managed to sway her not once from what I know, so it's really unfair for her to say that. #Zeego, It has to do with how people see the world differently, so don't know; World-View Personality Types. ^^ How upset you are may better be explained by Winding Refn having cut the throat of Fe to achieve Fi. His look is 4w5, not Se, definitely not bad-ass. When you look at those paintings, even though the motives are surreal, there is a sort of earthy evenness to their beauty (Se). Then again you'd have to look at the suject matter of his work. Lynch doesn't have that evilish streak INFJs show sometimes, among other things I've thought about him. #life goalYou can wait. Unlike his movies, the sensuality is taken out from there, instead they are unsettling on a visceral level, in a way that suggest an unhealthy low Si to me (Si being interiorized sensation, opposed to extroverted one). There's not much to the movie in terms of themes or stuff, it's just a very simple story but it looks gorgeous, with an excellent eye for visuals, sound and atmosphere, as you can find in Blue Velvet or Mulholland Dr. ''Putting aside how strange it is, it seems like what is of real interest for David Lynch is feeling tones (Fi). I just thought about it for the last 10 minutes. "In fact, there were two Dale Coopers. I went to see The Neon Demon with my INFP friend, and she was disgusted and impressed at how bad she thought the film was, so that's not an INFP thing as you would like to see it, but just your own take on Refn. So Lynch simply changed it another gas. An ISFP would be an aesthete dedicated to reality. I don't claim to have the truth on the matter, but the four function models leads to overtly-convoluted explanations and ignores half of someone's functions. You see it in the distance and it looks small, but as you go closer, it seems to grow – you haven't got a handle on the rules when you're a child. Cooper is not Lynch IMO, as I said before the part of his work that appears INFJ/Ni was co-written. Also note how his movies, when he's not being surreal, tend to be very down-to-earth stories about common life as it is lived (Se). I also think Drive is not the best comparison as he's playing with a very specific type of film (though I definitely there is some heavy intuition stuff going on with the hero origin story it's supposed to be), but if you look at more Lynchian movies like Neon Demon and Valhalla Rising, I definitely think Winding Refn-sama is more purpose-laden and conscious of what things are supposed to mean and do, and how he is developing them (Ne+Te) rather than the "take it or leave it" way I feel Lynch does it. at the core often, like in INFPs. You are a ISFP who wants everyone to be ISFP or is it just a troll. com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/drive-still03. As for Lynch looking bad-ass. DL:''Inspiration is like a piece of fuzz – it kind of comes up and makes a desire and an image that causes me to want to paint it. Murakami is unassuming, warm, funny and wise. If anything, Fi doms appear colder and likely to be "evil" from the outside, while the Fe of INFJs gives a warmer, outwardly kind exterior. it all points towards INFP imo, though opposite to Lynch one could perhaps say mundanely he is an I-S-F-P. Think about it this way: What was it really that he imagined. Introverted xNFP = INFP. I could see him as a very disturbed Fi dom with backfiring Te. I don't see the moralistic aspects you're referring to. Basically it's just a very strange and (at least to me it seems) earnest pop-culture weirdness artifact with no compromises for almost no one. When the dedication to Winding Refn's wife comes and Sia starts singing about the voices in her head that tell her to treat herself better, I can actually believe in it because Winding Refn has told in his own extremely personal way and insulted the establishment every way he could on the way. In reality that sky would've been blue and Technicolor and the plane would've been a large military plane that made a droning sound. Like there's this thing about innocence and how it can turn to its dark-side in Lynch movies (Blue Velvet, Mulholland: the main characters start as innocent people, yet their curiosity/sensitivity turn to voyeurism+adultery/crime), or people not escaping from their conscious (Lost Highway, Mulholland, is about people escaping their guilty conscious inside their minds yet it all unravels bit by bit from inside) which in itself carries importance, because Fi itself weight those things. For now I think 5w4 fits the best, his main motivation seems to be to present how weird the life is, like there's so much violence and fear and absurd that he retreats into his thoughts and reality starts to blend with dreams and intense visions and a sense of meaninglessness. I don't expect a Ne user to talk about his movie means, but rather to talk about various things starting from the movie, yet Lynch just dwelves in this mystical cliches. Same thing Murakami. With my description I was not trying to suggest his movie are "deep" or original, but playful/wacky (Ne) and that the ideas seem to come before the images. It's got some dirt around the edges and the rubber part has formed some black little balls. He's inarticulate both in Feeling (like in the Charlie Rose interview, Charlie Rose is Fe and it's easy to see the awkwardness in that interview) and Intuition, instead he's very good at explaining how sounds and textures or comparing sounds and textures etc. It's more the lack of Se aesthetic in his more personal projects ('paintings' or short movies) that makes it clear for me. Lynch is ISFP and Butterfly will teach you why. *unusual high range, 3) Related to 2. He's interested in society as a whole, sending out tweets on his twitter wanting to know what and how everyone is doing. Butterfly what is your problem. :P"As a teenager, I was really trying to have fun 24 hours a day. He was living his life the way he wanted, not in touch at all with the real world. Also compare his body language to those of INFPs and INFJs. I also have an ISFP friend, and she actually loves everything off-beat. (bobnickmad, random fact collect, lol. The difference between this movie and Mullholand Drive (Lynch alone) may be the answer. I find it strange to think of him as INFP being me one. I monitor my internal moods (Fi-Si) but he seems to have an usual high range of descriptions for sounds, tactile and visual sensations. I think they makes INFJ very clear. The evil hiding just under the surface sounds Se+Ni to me above all. The first is very Ni, convergent, while the second is a puzzle. Apparently he liked building stuff from an young age. '' That's an interesting point. I find it uber suspicious that INFJ is winning here looooool''pretentious movie director and Danish movie industry culture (note Lars von Trier's douchy Fe) '' Something's rotten in Denmark indeed. Finally, take a look at this interview. I could become a better actor than david lynch and win an oscar award I am the best actor their is#idlebody. I think that after The Neon Demon, he's done with her. I saw Van Gogh in the INFP heaven. He also said he started making films to see his paintings moving. It's like something very dark opens up, but rarely. Everyone=ISFP is doing the Lord's work here. I guess you are. #Zeego, Yeah, I also know this, the thing is with the hands-on approach and resoursfulness a director like Lynch or Kubrick need to have. I guess my final vote for David is INFP. He can pinpoint the sounds he wants in movies in such peculiar yet to him specific ways. t=4m36s And I'm definitely not saying any INFP is going to like Nicolas Winding Refn movies nor necessarily trying to convince you of his work's qualities, I'm just trying to point to some of things I think are going on in the movie, suggestive of his particular INFP-ness. There is a good reason why surreal films are almost always considered dream-like and that has to do with a distinct detachment from concrete reality and thus reality itself is viewed through the arcehtypal lense of Ni which is concerned more with a certain distinct nature of reality than it's literal physical depiction. There's a cameo he did in Twin Peaks where he talks about cofee and he seems more outer-wordly than Copper himself who's INFJ, and he just plays himself. He seems pretty Ni in the internal imagery and imagination sense and I think he should be some N (he’s not trying to communicate only the extremity of a sensation. was a very human story, masterfully executed, and the weirdness actually gave weight to the characters drama. I think Lynch has some sort of Tertiary Ni fixation with surrealism. He wouldn't kill a fly. That and I also see a more conventional Si aspect to him, in his idealization of small town life and comparing it to the ''corruption'' he later found. Doesn't really sound like a person living in ideas (N). Actually just read Debaser's comments at the bottom of the page. Intuitive types frequently will have complex visions or perspectives that they are unable to explain with clarity to others. Lynch, on the other hand, is very "art for art's sake" and his surrealism is often just plain "take it or leave it" weirdness. He says he separates movies and family. " So from day-dreams he takes his inspiration, daydreadms which seem way too weird for a non N type. I've seen that you could delete all the comments on House's page and did a rework on the recent comments section. Sit down and take notes. Discover Array, and more, famous people, fictional characters and celebrities here!. He could be ISFP as well. Yet, I still finds his ideas too weird and non-linear for an ISFP ( a kid growing a benevolent grandmother from a seed. Lost Highway was written with Barry Gifford and what inspired Lynch with OJ is not ethics at all, it's the state fugue, how a man can escape in fantasies refusing to accept his crime. #segovois, there are people here who troll with modified names of original users, please do not delete the original users. In a way it's good Lynch would rather not talk about that stuff. I have been thinking more about what you said about being inspired to make the red room after touching a car though, and I'm actually starting to think that's not a very Ne thing. ISFP is Fi-Se-(Si)-(Ti)-(Fe)-Ni-(Ne)-Te, if you're interested in my typing logic. Only watched Drive, which I really liked for being a simple story executed in a careful way with superb visuals. "reliable, responsible and conscientious. And then one day, there it is. Read his quotes on brainyquote; it screams INFP 4w5. So my vote is for 4w5 sp/sx. htmlMusing on Lynch,Part 1: #randomguy:''Many of his explanation is more of a personal impression based on sensory experience which suggests Fi and Si. When confused between ISFP and INFP, always look for signs on "sack of potatoes" - Works 100%. Bless you :)Your last two arguments sealed the deal. v=fL0Ij89xazA It's basically a Se performance. Only talking about his persona again. He explained it somewhere better, by sticking to a routine, he can leave his mind freely to day-dream. Don't you think on the surface, Drive looks very Se. Si finds comfort in routine, and Ne imagination is left to wonder in all directions without being distracted by the every day 'surprises'. But Lynch because of X event(s) in his life knows what genuine Ni means and has scared him for life; that Ni is what he's trying to show you in his movies. I feel like I see that more often in other INFPs than INFJs who tend to be more idiosyncratic. Later Hopper found out what helium does to your voice and he regretted his suggestion. We seem to go in circles with this. INFPs are aesthete that try to break the conventions of reality through imagination. He's a clear self-preserving 4w5. In fact Blue Velvet's plot seems mainly driven by ideas who's values serves in settingba mood (songs, ears, ants, clothes etc. Compare to similar director Nicolas Winding Refn (INFP) who tends to have a lot more complex and developed metaphors. Imo it's not very Se at all, but an almost moralistic fairy tale. I don't find that much depth in the things Butterfly say about Refn. As for Lynch, I'm still unsure between INFP and INFJ, but I don't really see ISFP in him. He lacks the intensity of an sx/sp. Also, the fact that he has this thing with the world hidden behind the real world, the meeting of the normal and the bizzare, the journey in a weird world hidden behind the surface, strikes me very INFP. If Lynch is ISFP I guess there would have to be some kind of art style of type of painting that he is building on, even when making movies. Anyway, the thing that is very clear is that his infj-ness is only on surface level. there are no surprises there' ''. I only liked some of his movies, instead of liking them all and being a big fan like other mbti types. In this interview you can also see he's philosophical on a very wide range of subjects, while an ISFP would be philosophical in a more restricted way I'd say:http://www. INFP, because for him what matters is to infuse life with the quality of dreams, his movies are basically dreams presented in a way that they can be comprehended while not losing their dream quality. They're not at all interested in concrete ideas. FJ are verbally emotionally articulated (not this guy), NP are good at putting complex ideas in simple terms, not really him either. Did you read what I wrote below, bobnickmad. The conversation before was interesting though and you could have found answers there. Anyway, I guess IxFP pr INFJ. That last comment of you makes me think a lot already about INFPs in general. In fact why do you need different types for them when they're so similar in the first place. I guess, by comparison ISPs are more focused, while INPs are more exploratory. that seems very Te. I feel lately that this separation in 4 letters is not apropiate in a way, since many of geniuses strenghts seems their ability in being good on aspects that are seen as dichtotomies. Btw, I wonder if Butterfly started looking for paintings that could have influenced Eraserhead. I do agree that there are some ISFP-ish thing to him, but he wouldn't be the first INFP with an appreciation for visuals or sound. It's certainly not usual, but his weirdness is always on the surface level. He seems more focused on the sensations that ideas produce rather than ideas themselves. Or his weird mini movies, like The Alphabet which seem pure abstractions. Meanwhile, ISTPs like Kubrick deal with some of the logical implications the story, another type would pass over, because Ti itself weight those things. In a way, it would be more easy to see him as an ISFP than an INFJ. Well, I see stronger Ni than Fi, and no Te so he can't be INTJ, leaving INFJ as the best option, although INFP comes in 2nd place. *(Fi-Si), on my INFP list, to anotherThat's a good point #hello to, I also tought this, but he excelled at the SP side of movie creation with Eraserhead, and like I said, and he alwayes felt off to me despite being close in type, enneagram and instinct. That point towards a care for ethics (Fi). I imagine creative SPs being more hands-on material where their sensibilities about the fits in the material based on their sensibilities and modyfying till it all fits to their liking. I still can't explain the Eraserhead thing but I came to agree on ISFP on 3 main motives from reading writen interviews and stuff: 1) He was very hands on, 'artisan' (SP) with making Eraserhead. I think surrealism has more to do with inferior Se than inferior Te and lack of Ti. Dennis Hopper, who didn't know what helium did to your voice, asked Lynch why he would be breathing helium when other gasses make you feel a lot better. Also, in interviews he has this aerian, alien like aura about him that INFx have, and you can't fake this but you can fake 'badass', compare with ISFPs like Coppola, they're more earthy. Apparently that's all he did and left. For me INFP is Fi-Ne-(Ni)-(Ti)-(Fe)-Si-(Se)-Te. When asked how he achieved those effects with so litle money he said it's about how things are lighten in front of the camera. *A true bunch of mental masturbators. When you're a child, something as simple as a tree doesn't make sense. Looking at this painting and comparing it to Winding Refn-sama's style, I still feel that Lynch could very well be Se. Sorry about that. About how his inspiration works: before making Eraserhead he wanted to make "Gardenback was a surrealist script about adultery which featured a continually growing insect representing one's man's lust for his neighbor. Like George Lucas using old movies or many ISFP writers hiding twisted version of biographical stuff in their stories. INFJ can also have personal aesthetics, but it wouldn't be so unconventional I think, their feelings tones would still have something of what's appreciated in the culture they live in (Fe), while for Lynch it's individualized and. The second letter in the personality type acronym corresponds to the preference within the sensing-intuition dimension: “S” stands for sensing and “N” stands for intuition.. And so the sound and music and color and shape and texture, if all those things are correct and a woman looks a certain way with a certain kind of light and says the right word, you're gone, you're in heaven. If he was INTJ, that would explain his resourcefulness as a J quality, but we seemed to agree on Ti-dom. Also this quote by him strikes me as very INFx: "It makes me uncomfortable to talk about meanings and things. He can't write or think without it. Murakami, whether he is INFP or INFJ, is heavily concerned with society and community even when he tells us not to care. The similarity is easy explained by both Lynch and Murakami being Ne-Si INFPs, not ISFP and INFJ. com/2015/08/tumblr_lzfscqpiqm1rob9suo1_1280. And at first it's very abstract and I don't have a clue. The world seemed to be more quiet when the plane was passing through the sky. I would be surprised if they were the same type actually. It's going to be so weird and awesome. I agree with everything Bob said. For example the American small towns depicted in Twin Peaks and Blue Velvet in each their way. Sofia Coppola is an INFP wannabe. Se users might need something like that to concentrate, a specific sensory thing, like Lynch has his chocolate milk because their senses are otherwise so sensitive. The thing with a guy like Lynch or Kubrick is that they were very practical at the lowest level -cinematography- which helped them great movies with amazing cinematography (2001, Eraserhead) much cheaper than many others would have. He actually seems unusually INFP at the place you pointed me to. When he says that Mikkelsen is an airhead, that's like when I call Shane Carruth lazy or something. The metaphor about fatherhood is actually pretty banal (Tertiary Ni). For the record, I love his work prior to Drive. I think Miyazaki and Mann are pretty uncontroversial, lol. Jung theorized that the dominant function acts alone in its preferred world: exterior for extraverts and interior for introverts.. I see it too clearly. I know it's weird but it's the only think that seems to fit after all this time. INFJ 5w4 so/sx. q=DAVid+lynch+so+this+is+love&biw=1024&bih=602&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj39OKdx4bNAhXI2xoKHYNeDYAQ_AUICCgD#tbm=isch&q=kurt+cobain+paintings''Part 3:Some other quotes that sounds very INFP: ''I love child things because there's so much mystery when you're a child. :) And nooo, I don't think Lynch is too much weird to be an ISFP. You make me want to change votes for both Lynch and Refn as ISFP. This guy is what I call a ''Dreamer-Aesthete''. I'm quite puzzled by the loss of quality in discussion on this site. So I have a hard time thinking he cares more about the aesthetics of his work than about the impression it gives overall. It's something sensory (Se) that in a lightbulb moment perhaps (Ni) leads to something else sensory. Of course bobnickmad is another peasant like you. Se sort of seems to be where he is at home. Yet, compared to your average ISFP, his images are more influenced by his unconscious. rememberGregory House' discussion havn't be deleted, i jude hid te page. Apparently, in Blue Velvet, Lynch wanted Dennis Hopper to breathe in helium when he calls for his mommy and whatever in those really weird scenes. Omg, bobnickmad. This is a guy who put his hand on a hot car and he immediately imagined The Red Room. For example in portraying what it feels like to encounter a foreign culture, he created some very bizarre images (Valhalla Rising), and in trying to convey frustration at going too far about superficial beauty, he creates some really horrific, fascinating images (Neon Demon), etc. I haven't seen any works of Lynch but I wouldn't necessarily associate his works with surrealism with him being INFP or INFJ. Routine or not I think you need to look at other things to know if he was a J, in this case an INFJ (Ni-dom) as your theory. He talks about ideas, but he doesn't talk ideas. Of course, I'm not saying INFPs can't be scary in a lower Te moment, but I think INFP would be more of an ''I think he might break down'' type of anger, while he had this very casual but also very imposing kind of anger. Okay, so I've finally taken the time to take a careful look at David Lynch, and I come out absolutely convinced that he is an ISFP. There are no deep conscious ethical messages with Lynch's work as you would imply. v=I7xhdtq9N90. It's amazing that such a visually impressive movie was made with low budget, but Lynch managed it because he got involved with building props and had an instinctive eye for light and shadows. It takes superficial beauty so far that at the end, it's has become something gruesome and disgusting. From what I understand what was hindering Lynch from finishing the movie was lack of money, not laziness. A Bug Dreams would be a really shrill 15. David Lynch is absolutely NO sack of potatoes INFP. It's pretty obvious is spammed like many entries. And so the details are incredibly important. The simple fact that it took 8 years for him to make eraserhead, not to mention is laziness is just so un-SP. The ISFP's work questions "What does this song/film make you feel. You could turn it around and say taking 8 years is evidence of his perseverance, suggesting SP. His father and brother had to come to him and tell him to get a job because he had to support his wife and newly born daughter. To find out what your MBTI personality type is you need to complete the MBTI questionnaire and take part in a feedback session from a qualified MBTI practitioner.. Over and over he makes the same mistake; get a job already. I think he's just one of those people who's hard to type and has a lot of highly-developed functions. He has inferior sensing as he's not really the type to cook or clean for himself. CelebrityTypes thinks he is INFP, this place thinks he is INFJ, but actually he is ISFP. I also changed to 4w5 sp/sx. Dreamer I associate most with INFP, and Aesthete with ISFP, so I vote him INFP overall. The way he puts out his emotions lacks the subtlety of an INFP IMO. Anyway, I'm trying to develop my own personal ''system'', based on MBTI but not tied to the functions (except the dominant and inferior). Maybe if there was more information about his food habits. David Lynch main insterest is ze mind. I just have a really hard time making sense of Lynch as a INFP and especially INFJ. Butterfly wins this one. Also I think the way he talks about ideas in all his quotes, as lightbulb moments you look for, sounds very Ni. More puzzle pieces come, more ideas are caught, and it starts forming a thing. Not saying Lynch is ISFJ, but it got me thinking. Your post about him being ISFP made me more sure about him being INFP :) (in the sense that I still can't see Eraserhead ISFP, lol). He doesn't seem to have that "investigator" passion for diving deep into topics, preferring to focus on juxtaposing objects of emotional complexity, to create a dissonant manipulator of the subconscious. ISFP anger fits with Winding Refn who is more someone who looks like he is about to blow up at any moment than genuinely, naturally aggressive. But while I can see an ISFP adding strong intuition to his movies (sort of like Blue Velvet), I can't see an ISFP making Eraserhead as a debut film. He uses some self-preservation to keep safe distance from the world, but also to pratically utilise his visions in interesting ways. I disagree though. Like Saint-Exupéry being INFJ and George Orwell being INFP. Because Lynch seems very in his own mind. But I think ISFPs are systematically underestimated, among other reasons because most people seem to lack an extensive understanding of Se and Tertiary Ni - and what it can do and does. Like I said, less inconsistency as possible provided we make the person justice, and Kubrick is that inconsistency here. I think that's more inferior Te + Se than Te + Ne. But a movie script seems more complex than that. He can't be INFJ because he has too much Fi, widely shown in his movies. Like Kubrick or Lynch, and probably the greatest of movie-makers seems to have succeded because they have both strong S and N characteristics: S because they're good at the lowest levels -light, sound, texture, interior design etc. It's in the gutter next to some dirt and a rock, and maybe a little twig. And IMO, by comparison, those things of alleged depth Refn says seem pretty shallow and empty intellectualism, probably because he's such a self-centered individual. 2) A type excells in comunicating their main extroverted functions. ''I changed my vote to INFP. htmlEthics is not restricted to Fi. I find Refn agressive, and The Neon Demon is the worst film I've seen in theaters. Dreamers are people for which imagination and dreams have more appeal than simple every-day life, they have the feeling that another world, more exciting exists somewhere beneath the reality of this world and the mind can bring it to life. '''Part 2:When you take from the equation the Ni bias that comes with Transcendental Meditation which makes him describe his process as quite Ni, and compare with how his actual process is, it actually sounds more like his main drive is again, feeling tones that come to him in fragments. Couldn't there theoretically be ISFJs like this. Because the meaning, it's a very personal thing, and the meaning for me is different than the meaning for somebody else. @butterfly: every typology genius know ISFPs are very plain, have simple ideas and use easy words. And in Enneagram land, something that isn't 5. , N because the way they take this projects into this mind-blowing creations that stretch the limits of their genre and tend to be contemplative people. butterrfly=/=buterfly. INFPs, like most introverts, are quiet and reserved. They prefer not to talk about themselves..
. Don't have much to say about Refn. David Lynch: "I always say, it's like there's a man in another room with the whole film together, but they're in puzzle parts. be/aFbrvPGvA34. He even says something like that Mads Mikkelsen is one of the greatest actors in the world and that he was lucky to work with him. So, if Refn can do a movie like Drive and not be ISP, so can Lynch. jpg http://somamagazine. How he moves his hands around, how he enunciates the way he speaks, how he is dressed. I don't think it makes sense to type Lynch as an S simply because he's good with aesthetics. But photos capture that very well. Or a butterfly. So there's a strong message behind. Another argument: Note that Lynch is famous for weird stuff, like peeing on set in front of everyone (not kidding). Yet his brainyquotes sound (scream) lighthearted but also deep INFP: http://www. His enneatype is hard to tell, he's very 4w5 and very 5w4 and sometimes very 9w1 when he talks about world peace and stuff. Does this means delete all the discussion here as well. Fe would be more broad and would depict the issues between people; like a drama. Overall, he seems like a really bizzare ISFP, someone expressing himself through sensory language yet really bizzare likes, and with some Ni aura of mysyery his enneagram 4 likes to accentuate (it always felt to me he likes being seen as weird, similar with Manson). I mean ''hero origin story'', why is that so interesting. I find Refn full of himself and unplesant as a person. Just like Speed Gavroche posted on the french side he values comfort, peace of mind and tranquility way too much to be sx/sp. sx/sp right there for you. Introverted intuition typically creates a unique vision and arrives at unique insights about things, phenomena, or people. Does it make you want to dance. com/quotes/authors/d/david_lynch. I always feel like my friends, relatives, etc. Anyway, I think creative processes vary for everyone of course, but I have the impression ISFPs tend to be copyists (through Se). , I liked the idea of having this guy on my INFP but he always weird to me among the others. I thought that if spam votes can't be deleted than whole page should be deleted and re-added. Murakami and David Lynch are also very different in person. This reminds me when a school psychology counselor (who was also a philosophy teacher, either INFJ or ISFJ) asked me what I like about me, and I answered ''I can see beauty in everything''. Keep reading to learn more about what goes into your Myers-Briggs personality type—and maybe discover what yours is.. ) But I guess he doesn’t seem like the typical Ni type in what he focuses on either. I'd still like to see Bob's opinion on Refn now. Also I've actually heard something similar about writer Karl Ove Knausgård (ISFP). Of course, for a long movie like Blue Velvet or Mulholland Dr. Ok, who the hell wrote Delete in the title. He's about sensory impressions and what he feels about them, with a strong but inarticulate interest in Ni. Tim Burton = Looks like a sack of potatoes (Tertiary Si) and somewhat gloomy (Fi). " That's how an ISFP approaches their creations. The plane took a long time to cross the sky and the sound it made was very serene. He can't be ISFP because his movies are too complex. So This Is Love, would have a muffled sound like talking through a glove. I think an INFP or INFJ as fulfilled as Lynch would be a bit more intellectually, intuitively sophisticated. But also in his art, such as enjoying to sleep on the sets of Eraserhead or saying he wants to bite his pictures. He's similar with Bob Dylan and Chino Moreno from Deftones in the sense that sensorial impression suggests surrealistic images but those images are valued for their quality as images and not much more. Body language is an unreliable way to type, but I think Lynch seems strikingly ISFP. Both of you do not have very convincing argument for either type. The collective consciousness (social instinct) is very important to him. I was watching this vid on YT about Lost Highway and he said that he was inspired/obsessed by the OJ Simpson case and the horror that implies to live with that. What I found he has an aptitude for, is explaining textures and sensations from other sensory elements, yet he's still the world strangest ISFP: he's fascinated by the textures of ducks, hairless rats, band aids (. ISFP valuing Ni, after all the interviews I read and watched with him. Does it make you want to laugh or cry. At the same time, Lynch doesn't explain things in a very Ne way, I mean he talks ABOUT ideas, rather than talking ideas. Anyway, I guess every artistic type can start from some sudden image, but an IN would translate those images in ideas, while an ISFP would just use them for their direct effect (such as an industry based on using people heads to make pencils and other stuff, as opposed to just making pencils form people's heads). In an INFP that's into visual arts, Ni is more useful so it can be more obvious than a INFP who's not into visual arts. The boy-scout one with a character-defining fondness for 'damn fine coffee' and cherry pie – who Lynch's ex-wife Mary Sweeney recently told me is based on Lynch himself – was still imprisoned in the Black Lodge, where he was in conversation with, among others, a talking tree and a soon-to-be-abducted-again Palmer ('I am dead, yet I live,' she uttered). Really, because he has 'cool' hair or something. And after Eraserhead he is a picture of 6w5 to me. Se, even coupled with Ni has a certain conventional aesthetic that lacks completely from his 'paintings'. The whole movie is intuition from start to finish. jpg https://projectedperspectives. Overall, I think he's far too erratic to be INFJ. He did not realise what were his responsibilities until then. A very concrete example is the Scorpion image which is sort of the Drive guy's superhero suit. Gifted people are difficult to type. He would likely be interesting to listen to but I don't see myself chatting easily with him. When I make up wacky stuff, at least, that's how it works. I didn't start thinking until I was 20 or 21. or from some kind of mixing of ideas. There's a the fact that he's an obviously gifted person, which makes it more likely to have several functions strongly developed, thus more likely an ISFP with strong Ni then an INFJ with poor Fe and even poorer Ti. Like for example Blue Velvet, come from the image of an ear in the grass, then he heard one of the song that is played the movies, and all kinds of images that eventually set the overall mood. Seems to have pretty low social instinct for a film director. But my general argument about Winding Refn is wackiness (Ne) and earnestness/always-following-his-heart (Fi). A good way to differentiate ISFP from an NF type is to examine what the artist's intentions are. Just my two cents. All that feels more Ne. Between 9 and 17 most of the time, and sometimes around six. I've heard things to that effect, but I don't really know his influences or paintings well enough to tell if it's a Extraverted Sensing-like relationship he has to them. It strives to discover the essence of things and fill in the missing pieces of a puzzle. I guess Se users can be obsessive too, but over Se-ish things like sport or martial arts, but just randomly spouting fact about personal interests at people that don't want to hear it, it's kinda tertiary Si, no. So you have this very strange movie that started from this very strange day dream. v=Fxr-7O1Bfxg"Introverted intuition reflects on patterns, relationships, symbols, meanings, and perspectives on matters from complex phenomena to magical connections to practical problems. Than again there are ISP musicians that compose sobg lyrics or music in their mind first. About Mikkelsen "it's like speaking to an airhead". Anyway, the main thing with a system like MBTI is to eliminate inconsistencies or convoluted explanations, as long as it does the person typed justice. And he is not sx/sp. :PWell played Buttefly,but. com/site/wp-content/uploads/drive-DRV-01381_rgb. Here you can explore of famous people and fictional characters.. His aesthetics and humor is very Se and Ni so I would guess ISFP or INFJ. Could he be an Introverted Sensation type in Jung's conception. As for Lynch and Murakami; I think they are incredibly different. Anyway, ISFP David Lynch got me thinking. I don't see what the last part of your comment has to do with the rest. It feels superficial (and it is asserted) to me. bobnickmad should refrain from voting and commenting because he has no fucking clue how to differentiate ISFPs from INFPs, and he knows this. I think if Lynch was INFP would had been like, "Who cares. INFP 5w4 on the other hand I'd be more willing to believe. It actually seems like Ti that he represses the most. I can't imagine Se-Ni jumping connections like that: warm car -- surrealist roim, with only the color red in common. Sorry those who trusted me. Nicholas Winding Refn = Looks like a sack of potatoes (Tertiary Si), might have a playful smile (Ne). He movies aren't as deep as some make them out to be, he is very shallow and self obsessed like kurt cobain ( also infp ). But it's all the little details. That seems very 4 rather than 5, but he still may have a 5 wing. Not Lynch tough. He mostly doesn't go into philosopical generalties and when he does he explains it in a mysterious way, like the fact that a script is made from ideas sounds like a religious thing from him. I insist you listen to these MBTI masters and enlighten yourself. He also demonstrates introverted feeling. Which can be explained with. Don't take my picture though. If you were to see a photograph of that not knowing what it was, it would be unbelievably beautiful. and End of Evangelion. Note also that Eraserhead was Stanley Kubrick's (ISTP) favorite film. But Lynch talks only about ideas and how thet attract each other. I was doing regular goof-ball stuff. #butterfly won me here, but you can still save yourself. His surrealism also carries a lot more meaning. 000 cycle piercing sound, She Wasn't Fooling Anyone, She Was Hurt Bad would be an extremely slow motion, muffled breaking glass sound. It's just the weird way it makes you feel and how mysterious it is. Cause that is just funny. He does seem to have that inferior rejected Te thing going on, which would make sense for an INFP. Rest was all rubbish. A Ni-dom would talk about concepts and archetypes in their work instead of rambling on and on how ''ideas are a beautiful thing'' and never getting anywhere like he read it in a book but never got after the first chapter. Don't know, I'm so confused lately on this issue, I have no idea why can't I just leave this behind and focus on my personal dreamer-aesthete thingy I tried to do as to individualize my own personality types. He also said that his movies aren't about a social message, which seems odd for an NFJ. Plus, when you realize that Mulholland Dr. He has ideas which look like images rather than images that look like ideas, if that makes any sense. I don't think being iresponsible is N tough, as many homeless alcoholics people are there. Maybe someone we think is INFP or something out there is actually a dark ISFJ. There's also the quote I posted about how one of his paintings is a serene image of his childhood but ''darkness has crept in''. https://youtu. I didn't know I'd actually swayed you with Gaiman. Does it make you want to punch someone in the face. Btw, do you have an official name yet for the "dreamer-aesthete thingy", as you called it. It's the poses and everything. Also it's obviously an ongoing joke between Mikkelsen and Winding Refn which the interviewer is consciously referring to with his choice of words. It probably just struck him what a weird effect a room covered in this color would have. @bobnickmad: sorry that was my fault. I saw a video behind the scenes of his movie Inland Empire, and there was a moment where he got really angry at someone not doing something right, and he was quite scary. Or I can be going along and see an old Band-Aid in the street, and you know how an old Band-Aid is. I can't explain other diets he has though. " So you can see the weird stuff in his movie is not meaningless like you seem to imply. ) or I am overestimating what an ISFP can do. David Lynch = Surrealism. Like I was in school, and I saw this piece of metal in my mind there appeared this full image of a grey alien ocean, with black towers that were populated by unseen organism, and there were this red dots floating around, and all this, the ocean, the towers seemed organic. I mean, you could claim that by letters he's I-N-F-P, but he seems more in touch with Se than Ne. And making a movie about the ''cruelty'' and ''shallowness'' of the beauty industry is one of the most cliche things ever. Lynch is basically the Feeler version of Kubrick.
. I think Winding Refn, in a way, is Lynch up-side down a lot of the time. Self-Pres Fours become frustrated that the environment is insufficiently attuned to their personal needs. We think we understand the rules when we become adults but what we really experienced is a narrowing of the imagination. ''This goes Lynch is a notorious creature of habit: he spent seven years drinking the same chocolate milkshake at the same time every day from Bob’s Big Boy in L. "In its place, Lynch presented Eraserhead, which he had developed based on a daydream of a man's head taken to a pencil factory by a small boy. I can imagine an ISFP going down in the direction that they sort of decide to make their art about this type of amusement. There is all the weird colors, interesting details in the background, etc. Him being an INFP has access to Ni in 6th place, so it's strong (theory) but it's not natural to him. Maybe that Transcendental Meditation really works after all. Read his autobio, it's all about "fishing" ideas, nothing concrete in there. "I try to keep things very divided". Butterfly is way too lazy for something like that. " You see the same striking, wacky visuals in presumed INFP directors like Tim Burton. He's not a 5, and he's not sx/sp in my view. And apparently he forms many of his 'ideas' from sounds. '' He seems very sensitive to these kind of things, from ruining a relationship because he couldn't stand the smell of cooking food, to cofee and the same meal. :PTo explain the Dennis Hopper thing more closely: Lynch basically allowed himself to be corrected for realism (Se). At least, Mulholland Dr. INFPs create Ni through strong Fi+Ne fueled by Si (theory, don't quote me). I started watching from about 16 minutes in and I didn't see any insults. You know there are plenty of people I still think are INFP though. Fi would manifest in a focus about internal feelings of the protagonist or the character of the directors choosing. Don't how an ISFPs imagination actually works, but if an ISFP can have this kind of instant imagination, I wasted my time beign an INFP. Sort of like the movie Stalker by Tarkovsky, for the most it's just footage of dirty water and industrial decay, but it's filmed with such an unique sensitivity that it makes more than all the symbolism in the world. After thinking I get to some clarity on this, it all failed apart. It deals with subjects that are important to that group, and it attacks authority - which Winding Refn imagines teens like though he can't possible be serious that he thinks he has done this in an appealing way (Ne). Don't you feel he's too much weird all the time to be ISFP tough. And when he makes a movie like Inland Empire, shoots it himself with a pd 150 (very poor dv cam), he does not care about the quality of the image that much, but enjoys the freedom to make little movies on his own. Perhaps it's precisely because Lynch only cares about the surface of it that he was able to make it as a surrealist (. He's close to Robert Altman in a way, and I now think the part of his work which seems Ni was actually co-written. Also, if you go on David Lynch's twitter and if you replace "Dear Twitter Friends" with "Diane", you'll realize that his Twin Peaks character Dale Cooper is essentially based on himself. and you see the stain of a little and maybe some yellow dirt on it, a little ointment. Evilish in his persona, not his movies. DL:Because darkness has crept in since then. Coming back to him, while in my system he's one of the more ''intuitive'' types: Dreamer-Aesthete, I think in the 4 function model he's still more Fi-Se-Ni-Te than Fi-Ne-Si-Te. Because Lynch is an ISFP, he allowed himself to be corrected (Se). He even seems weirder alongside actual ISFPs though. Yeah, you forgot one essential aspect discussed below: his love for routine. What would an artistic, anti-social ISFJ look like. You people should open your minds a little more. An airplane splutters by his head pumping smoke into the night sky; can you talk a bit about this piece. It's pretty cliched stuff. Taking this into account, and the fact that ISFPs are statistically a lot more common than INFJs, INFPs and INTJs, it shouldn't come as a surprise that many "deep" and unusual artists are in fact ISFPs. don't really know me, but with that single insight I feel like you have looked directly into my soul. An ISFP artist's work is not so much about finding hidden meanings, it's about how the viewer or audience experiences the artistic creation as delineated through the five senses. Supposedly Agent Cooper is based on Lynch himself and he is quite clearly an INFJ and that is what the crowd here unanimously says too. Butterfly is giving everyone a nice good lesson. To me it feels like self absorbed Se, like De Palma, possessed by his obsessions. INFJ may be peculiar in their intuition, but their feeling is extraverted, it find itself in other's emotions, it connects with it, and as such is good at explaining itself to someone else. And let's do that. Fi-dominance and Ti-dominance in itself deals with either value judgements or story logic, which is enough to gave a movie ''meaning'', even when it's not explored in a Ne way. With ISFP all the parts fit and there are no too big problems imo; it's just kind of surprising, that is all. I also think that either you are underestimating what an ISFP can do (in terms of starting out with surrealism, etc. Also, similar with what I pointed could be Fi-Si below, Blue Velvet seems mainly to be about his idylic childhood and the contrast with the dark side of society he found out later. He enjoys habitual behaviors and routines (like eating the same meal every day for months) that allow him to free his mind to think about other things (Ni+Ti). As such, there still remains a problem with being sure that people like Lynch, Tarkovsky, Oshii are Intuitives, even agreeing that any type can be good with aesthetics: Stanley Kubrick. Not saying ISxP can't be intuitive creators as well though. But anyway, my main arguments are how he started Eraserhead from a bizzare day dream and that his movies aren't 'meaningless' as you seem to take, rather their meaning is more personal. It's actually a bad example, as many INFJ writers (Dostoievski, Mishima etc. Another argument: Google "Nicolas Winding Refn" or "Tim Burton", and google "David Lynch". And yes, he's INFP. INFJ 5w4 9w1 4w5 sp/so. ISFPs however abstract they can be are more grounded than that. " (Ne) Personally I'm sad whenever I think of that, because I think it would had been so cool. David Lynch is somewhat imposing and strange. He'd totally be N in MBTI but the concept of the Si type seems to fit him pretty well. His Ne is strong too. Or maybe he has some interesting points to make, but it ruins it with cheap shock value, sort of like Marlyin Manson. Also he can be so erratic at times. butterfly: "We have INFJs as weird as Lars von Trier and Marilyn Manson, who upset people on purpose. It generally helps INFP them unify their subjective Fi impressions into some world-view and visualize their dream-worlds. ''When I ask why he wants to stick to this redundant diet, he tells me that it's 'reassuring. Laura Harring also said he has a very visual way of explaining things, or another actor about how he gives instructions like "you have a plastic bag on your face" to explain what he wants from him. For example in Neon Demon different character function as metaphors for different powers in the beauty industry. I see his function strength as something like: Ni > Fi > Fe > Ne > Se > Si > Ti > Te, and it all comes down to trying to come up with one type that best represents him which is very difficult. Welcome to MBTIBase - PersonalityBase, here you can learn about David Lynch MBTI type.. Btw #butterfly, do you think being nerdy like that on a specific topic is a sign of tertiary Si. There's an interview with Charlie Rose about Straight Story, and he really struggles to explain what is that attracted him to the story. We have INFJs as weird as Lars von Trier and Marilyn Manson, who upset people on purpose. Meanwhile it's makes no sense with a SP. You are a ISFP who wants everyone to be ISFP or is it just a troll. jpg It's like Winding Refn has been going, "Let's do that. That said, I don't think this lack of being very articulated in interviews necessary makes him SP, as INFPs can find verbal expression difficult, NFJ not so much. And it feels fake. In the 4 function+2 axis model he could only be ISFP, but I find it as a very unsatisfying model. But Lynch started weird. I tought this was bizzare Si but he's weirdly specific about how things feel to him, in a way that I'm just not. Ni dom film directors are almost always accredited creating surreal dream-like pieces of work like Stanley Kubrick, Werner Herzog or Andrei Tarkovsky. building sheds, for real, he was actually building sheds. This is why I get annoyed when people type guys like David Lynch or David Bowie as ISFP, because NF artists are interested in searching for hidden meanings through abstraction. He has that intense, cool Se/Ni vibe, but at the same time he is clearly not Fe. Lynch is also a musician (Se) and an artist (Se) in addition to directing movies primarily known for being visually interesting (Se). And also like I'm trying to see all the "important movies", going through lists of books, etc. Lynch was lazy (not about Eraserhead, I just meant to say that he was not productive as you would expect an ISFP filmmaker to be). I think a lot about Winding Refn's strangeness can be explained by him being an INFP with dyslexia, which forces him to get out in the world and express himself physically. ''It's a feeling that the story gives'' but really not good at making that feeling understood. His films are full of abstractions and "strangeness" that pervade any sense of realism, and in interviews he always seems like a head-in-the-clouds type. < Also just in general the way he phrases himself, being a sack of potatoes, etc. I can't put all my thoughts here because I don't like to write too much. Anyway, SP=/=regimented routine. Did you understad what I said. Further proof of how individualized his feeling tones are:''Different paintings would have different sounds. Do they think what story they want to make and than they take or add thinks from the basic premises untill it suits their own artistic sensibilities. He's also slightly out of balance (Inferior Te) - though I think a lot of that is also a sort of Ne-based impression of a pretentious movie director and Danish movie industry culture (note Lars von Trier's douchy Fe) -- and he is a sack of potatoes (Si). regimented tertiary Si. , you need a more conventional, Se like aesthetic, but I don't think INFPs lack in aesthetics sensibilities department either. And let's do that and that and that. Lynch is not going to actually interact that much with the ideas behind it, but he plays with the moods and sensation of this weirdness. I'm an 4w5 too and I don't look half as cool as David Lynch. Mark Frost was the brain of Twin Peaks (He wrote, directed and produced on his own the last episodes of the first season of the show because Lynch left to do Wild at Heart, and they are amazing), Lost Highway was co-written by Barry Gifford. ''Self-Pres Fours are particularly sensitive to comfort issues—the temperature of a room, the quality of the lighting, the humidity or lack of it, the weather—all produce powerful emotional responses. But Lynch doesn't have that. Also, while filming Eraserhead he enjoyed. I just discovered why Lynch makes those quick and strange gestures with one hand when he's talking; he's trying to explain the dark and unexplainable (genuine Ni). The way he dreamed up the ending of Blue Velvet is also pretty intuitive. Of course that's not really true, but the point I was trying to make is very similar to how Lynch sees the world I think. The Dreamer-Aesthete has very developed and personal aesthetic taste, with which through visuals, sounds and moods, they try to bring their reality to life. Seems like a lot of Se for both an INFJ and an INFP. He's not your typical reclusive hermit 5w4 such as Scott Walker. But to me he has lived dark, strong and genuine Ni, which he shows in his movies but he's not comfortable with that because he's an INFP after all. Mullhoand Dr for instance hes just bitching abou being a true artist and complaining about hollywood's way of making movies. ) in Hollywood. In an earlier post Bobnickmad says that he could imagine Lynch as an ISFP if it weren't for Eraserhead, which is pure intuition. He is also apparently extremely polite and mature" INFPs are like that when they work with other people, the healthy ones; responsible above all. I'll stop posting here, I promise. It's better not to know so much about what things mean. For one, I find the music he makes very Ne in aesthetic, but I think any can like whatever style of aesthetics they like, it's more a matter of personal taste. Since INFP seems completely off to me, and I don't think he is INFJ, I'm prone to concluding that you are underestimating, lol. I have no clue what "evilish persona" is or what that has to do wtih INFJ. He was more tied to reality, he painted stuff that was there in reality and only use his strong imagination for aesthetic purpose. ""To give a sense of place, to me, is a thrilling thing. Couldn't there theoretically be ISFJs like this. He is making the person in that interview uncomfortable, lol. ), plus that he puts ideas above everything in interviews, alongside his very subjective, non-Fe personal feeling tones, so Fi+Intuition over sensation would make most sense. He does have Ni but it is a strong Ni. '' SP are about being exploratory when it comes to the senses, but Si, even lower Si is bound to same kind of routine or another. Like when I'm reading some really abstract book or when I was studying philosophy, she had me tell her about it, being the only really patient Sensor listener of my friends on this subject, and she was always awfully amused by it. Eraserhead, the final of Twin peaks improvised, the ending sequence of Blue Velvet dreamed the day before the shooting, the chaotic Inland Empire. Ni is the most difficult part to talk about; theories of strong Ni in INFPs. Consider my mind blown by your superior giftedness. They can deal with escapism, questioning whether one can escape in the fantasy in their mind from the banality of the world, such works that deal with this include Mulholland Dr. For an INFJ not to have developed his Ti enough to interpret his own works, it would mean his Fe would be very developed but that's not the case, he's not very emotionally articulate, and if FJs are one thing, it's emotionally articulate. Similar with Kubrick with conventional movies like The Kill before going 2001 and stuff. Honestly, the more interviews I read the more ISFP makes much sense than INFJ. I, for one, am actually INFP myself. He's one of the more outgoing fives. I've also read before about his concern about the bad stuff he shows in his movies. But yes, I have a problem differentiating INFPs from INFJs and ISFPs lately. Are you trying to say that INFPs are more shallow than INFJs and ISFPs. And the quote about details is actually very Si, not Se. The anecdote went something like that. q=david+lynch+paintings&biw=1024&bih=602&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjw0tSJs6zNAhXMtBQKHd-MBkMQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=WsjGtOi-ao0fTM%3A Where is Se in there. Lynch's work tends to forgo logical cohesiveness to give impressions, which seems like Fe suppressed Ti. Eraserhead seems to be very much like the works of Kafka, strange, surreal metaphors of his own personal anxieties, mainly that of being a father. I personally have things like that quite often. Mostly psychological, noir, eerie, desolate, esoteric, atmospheric, more dreamy than psychedelic kind of surrealism. I understand that with Camus or Johny Depp, but Lynch. He obsessively chews Juicy Fruit bubblegum. Very much like Kubrick, he was a true 'artisan' , not just someone with ideas, his later movies were more expensive yet less ambitious because he lacked time and control. Because on the one hand, he talks about introverted intuition quite a lot. We have such different way of comunicating things, I would like to go from one point to anothet and put high ideas in simple terms (Ne) maybe referencincing how I feel inside(Fi-Se), he would stay in place but combine oddly specific impresions with mysterious expressions (Se-Ni). Intuitive FFFFF FFFFF SSSSSSSSSSSSSSeriously though, why do we keep coming back to this "tertiary Ni" idea when we keep invalidating the theory of function stacks over and over. Just because he's not gay doesn't mean he's not an INFP. Someone is spamming. Does this make any sense. '';''I:How old do you feel emotionally. @Kami-samaaa: If you read lots of my posts, I definitely don't claim everyone is an ISFP. Compare to for example the aesthetic of, yes, Winding Refn-sama's Drive. When he says he likes "going into strange worlds you build" he means it literary. So, if we would type them best what they excel at, Lynch would be S-N-F while Kubrick S-N-T, which makes them better justice than typing them S or N. Instinctively sx/sp, very passionate, talks a lot about what he likes and dislikes and doesn't fear including his bizzare fantasies into film, he goes for the essence of meditation, unique perception and art. *things, patterns, song lyricsDoes anybody knows how an ISFPs artistic process works like. I wonder if it would hurt Bobnickmad to admit I'm right at least ~once in a while~ about my weird typings. Like Kubrick's more original works were based on books which he modified untill they matched his personal likes and dislikes while adding stuff that accentiate certain aspects of a scene. Either Kubrick is indeed NT and then all contemplative directors are N types, or Kubrick is ISTP and everyone else remains in doubt. If Lynch was an INFP I imagine he would have come at it in a different way, in terms of what the red room is supposed to mean, etc. And a sense of place is made up of details. I just wanted to say that there's a stronger case for ISFP like Butterfly made than some people seem to believe, it's my second choice after INFP, far above INFJ right now. “Sensations that ideas produce” could be used to convolutedly argue for Jung’s Ne type because it would be like repression of all normal sensations so only idea based ones can be felt and the rush of expanding towards ideas can be followed. http://afistfulofculture. But I see INFJs all the opposite of what you just have said. ISFP can use Ni, but it's decorative (like with Klimt), Mulholland Dr. Where are the ideas. I don't think that would work though. The image centers on a lone figure with impossibly long legs that elevate his head into bleak empty space. " So Se+Ni it's unbearable. " *cough* Andy Warhol *cough*@bobnickmad: I meant my contrarian, weird typings. Mark Frost could very well be INTJ. That's moronic. It's an image. I think that's a very technical, minor point to topple my otherwise successful line of reasoning. Lynch did surrealist paintings before he started the movie, and imo this is what the movie first of all reflects: The film itself is all about interesting visuals and audio design, where I remember the latter being especially praised. I don't see an INFP being that relaxed about their body. He also lacks the intensity of an sx in person. In comparison, from what I understand Mulholland Drive actually has a "sensible" story that can be solved by reflection and Lynch has even given hints. He saw a red car and he imagined a red room. It's just been scrambled. Just an anecdote I could never put together about Lynch which I think suddenly makes sense now that I think he's ISFP. (As evidence of his poor capacity to explain the emotions in his movies or the ideas in it, but his varied impressions of sensorial impressions he collects) #idlebody, If you want to type every interesting person as a Ni-dom, fine. ), draws, paints and makes music while just taking in good faith a type of meditation that supposedly can hinder natural catastrophes if enough people do it, affecting the aura of the environment or something. I also have been thinking about split fantasies too; I'm sorry if that sounds too abstract. He knows how to look cool and nearly always pulls of some kind of self-conscious elegant pose, just like Camus or Knausgård (alleged ISFPs). Anyway, I know this isn't a convincing argument, so look at his paintings: https://www. What is the best option for the MBTI type of David Lynch? What about enneagram and other personality types?. I find it agressive. I also get the impression he likes his 'paintings' for the materials he uses to make them more than anything, and they're Francis Bacon worship anyway. If you enjoyed this entry, find out about the personality types of Acting and Movie Industry characters list.. But it's very idea-based - "doing a realistic superhero origin story". If they're wrong, then it throws you out of the mood. I mean, if we look at someone like Bob Dylan or Stanley Kubrick we see that before they got into weirdness they were rather conventional. Now I see 6 votes, but there were more earlier. For example, your beloved Refn and Drive. I:This is a pleasant memory for you, yet you've translated it into a dark image; why. I'm a 495 trytipe which is consider very imaginative, Lynch is probably 459 or something, but I can't imagine the trytipe making someone's daydreams so surreal without a clear preference for Intuition over Sensation. The weirdness is its own statement (Se+Ni). Even if not directly tested, public voting can provide good accuracy regarding David Lynch Myers-Briggs and personality type!. Or how he imagined The Red Room from a warm red car. Really unpleasant and didn't expect it, yet he started laughing right after that. #idlebody, What do you think of Kubrick. Huh, these are good points. I imagine stuff like that often. He would have that Ni to create said surreal piece of work. Butterfly what is your problem. Bob Dylan was just a folk-singer with really plain simple lyrics with no intention of being original, then I realized he had to become his own person, read lots of books and somehow this lead to Desolation Row. Lynch's work is intense as fuck and also twisted. You'll never see an INFJ call strangers "Friends", only a naive INFP. You've definitely studied him a lot closer in terms of MBTI than I have, so there's that. But the meaning of the red room doesn't really matter much to Lynch, I think. At first glance, the movie looks positively wacky. Does it make you horny. Because like David, Russell Brand also practices transcendental meditation and despite Russell being ENFP, he managed to develop his Ni through that. q=DAVid+lynch+so+this+is+love&biw=1024&bih=602&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj39OKdx4bNAhXI2xoKHYNeDYAQ_AUICCgD#tbm=isch&q=david+lynch+paintings&imgrc=41kW3ObKDgccSM%3A On a side note, I don't think I'm the only one who sees a similarity between his paintings, and that of Kurt Cobain:''https://www. A lot of votes in a few minutes. Other Dreamer-Aesthetes include Tim Burton, Charles Baudelaire and Hideaki Anno. Or does the conservatism of Si hinder the possibility. An xNFJ or xNFP is more interested in hidden meanings, their approach is more "This has a personal meaning for me, I want others to interpret this in their own way to find their own meaning". I can NOT see him as an Fe-dom though. Watch this interview about 16', the way he insults Mads Mikkelsen, the most un-INFP behavior. Free in-depth and practical information on the 16 personality types, including careers and relationships.. To some degree I think it's *really* supposed to be a horror movie for 16 year old girls. As for The Neon Demon, it's one of my favorite experiences of 2016, movies and not. thecityofabsurdity. And by that token, you could say Lynch is more image driven, than idea driven. DL:It's like a negative image of my childhood. I also think what Bobnickmad was saying about INFP vs. @bobnickmad Hmm, yeah David's a confusing guy. You are in the best place to test MBTI and learn what type David Lynch likely is!. "INFP that conciously channels Ni. Why not Extraverted Sensation instead of Introverted Sensation. He's all about textures, moods, visual contrasts, nothing Ni-Fe about the guy. And I guess is because I can't see myself having a fluent conversation with this guy. I feel like it’s hard to know what to type him in Jung. He argues his case, unlike MBTI master who just know things. deals with how dreams are formed in the last part and Eraserhead is all N in aesthetic. ) are obsessed with the idea of murder and ethics. I guess I'm gifted. David Lynch = Badass motherfucker (Se). I think it's more important that he's interested in what lies behind the way things appear that is N over S, than Se or Ni aesthetics. It gives him some kind of spiritual/aesthetic experience. We i'll have time, i'll fix itSite admin visited us today and deleted the Gregory House page. The lack of coeherence in surreal pieces of work is not a lack of coherence in logical judegment but a lack of coherency in depicting physical reality. Wouldn't Si be more nostalgic about it. According to Mikkelsen, Winding Refn is a complete nerd you can't discuss anything but movies with. Personally I feel pretty dissatisfied with MBTI right now, as it's hard to see where projection starts and ends. :) Anyway, you have actually swayed me. The darkness is realizations about the world and human nature and my own nature all combined into one ball of sludge. Like I imagine a SP musician jamming based on some old patterbs and ending up with something sounding completely new from there. If I would type the movie itself it would be ISP, but don't know Refn himself. It would've been better if he transferred some more powers to mods, maybe power to delete filthy things. In this site you can find out which of the 16 types this character 'David Lynch' belongs to!. ''There also seems to be a Fi-Si thing going one with his weird imagery, talking about a painting: ''Interviewer:One of your recent paintings, "So This Is Love", seems to take a fairly dark view of love. Yet, when you look at the stuff he does completely without restrictions, like his weird short movies or those things he calls paintings, the Se like aesthetics are lacking. Furthermore, note his interest in new age-y stuff like Transcendental Meditation. But what do we make of Kubrick. I would like to know who you are as you have stronger powers. Lynch persona is not dark at all. But I still see The Neon Demon as the assertion of shallow Se, not Ne. At the end of the day he is a very visual director (who cares little about meaning, etc. He's very sensitive to how the environment feels around him, and I don't see much envy directed to the social sphere or intimates, like for example, from Kurt Cobain (sx/sp). To me, as an INFP, I've always kind of felt unsatisfied with Lynch (except Twin Peaks which is co-written) because I want the weirdness to go somewhere, but it never does. is what happens when one watches Sunset Boulevard and Persona several times in his life, its no longer such a mysterious movie, albeit a masterfully executed one in terms of atmosphere.
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