David Lynch Myers-Brigs type - MBTI, enneagram and personality type info
Also I've actually heard something similar about writer Karl Ove Knausgård (ISFP). Which can be explained with. Of course that's not really true, but the point I was trying to make is very similar to how Lynch sees the world I think. But I think ISFPs are systematically underestimated, among other reasons because most people seem to lack an extensive understanding of Se and Tertiary Ni - and what it can do and does. Don't know, I'm so confused lately on this issue, I have no idea why can't I just leave this behind and focus on my personal dreamer-aesthete thingy I tried to do as to individualize my own personality types. Think about it this way: What was it really that he imagined. Maybe if there was more information about his food habits. But I see INFJs all the opposite of what you just have said. The way he dreamed up the ending of Blue Velvet is also pretty intuitive. The lack of coeherence in surreal pieces of work is not a lack of coherence in logical judegment but a lack of coherency in depicting physical reality. 000 cycle piercing sound, She Wasn't Fooling Anyone, She Was Hurt Bad would be an extremely slow motion, muffled breaking glass sound. Does this means delete all the discussion here as well. There will also be sporadic, Ni-like mysteriousness though, and of course moral concerns, authenticity etc. Bless you :)Your last two arguments sealed the deal. " So from day-dreams he takes his inspiration, daydreadms which seem way too weird for a non N type. I've also read before about his concern about the bad stuff he shows in his movies. I just discovered why Lynch makes those quick and strange gestures with one hand when he's talking; he's trying to explain the dark and unexplainable (genuine Ni). Apparently he liked building stuff from an young age. Like I said, less inconsistency as possible provided we make the person justice, and Kubrick is that inconsistency here. And a sense of place is made up of details. I think a lot about Winding Refn's strangeness can be explained by him being an INFP with dyslexia, which forces him to get out in the world and express himself physically. 2) A type excells in comunicating their main extroverted functions. Murakami and David Lynch are also very different in person. I saw a video behind the scenes of his movie Inland Empire, and there was a moment where he got really angry at someone not doing something right, and he was quite scary. Welcome to MBTIBase - PersonalityBase, here you can learn about David Lynch MBTI type.. Also, while filming Eraserhead he enjoyed. Fi-dominance and Ti-dominance in itself deals with either value judgements or story logic, which is enough to gave a movie ''meaning'', even when it's not explored in a Ne way. v=fL0Ij89xazA It's basically a Se performance. I would like to know who you are as you have stronger powers. Omg, bobnickmad. and End of Evangelion. Well, I see stronger Ni than Fi, and no Te so he can't be INTJ, leaving INFJ as the best option, although INFP comes in 2nd place. An ISFP artist's work is not so much about finding hidden meanings, it's about how the viewer or audience experiences the artistic creation as delineated through the five senses. I think that after The Neon Demon, he's done with her. Isn't Kubrick way too similar with these people to say he's S but the other N. He can't be ISFP because his movies are too complex. Yeah, you forgot one essential aspect discussed below: his love for routine. I guess Se users can be obsessive too, but over Se-ish things like sport or martial arts, but just randomly spouting fact about personal interests at people that don't want to hear it, it's kinda tertiary Si, no. If I would type the movie itself it would be ISP, but don't know Refn himself. is what happens when one watches Sunset Boulevard and Persona several times in his life, its no longer such a mysterious movie, albeit a masterfully executed one in terms of atmosphere. It's just the weird way it makes you feel and how mysterious it is. ''There also seems to be a Fi-Si thing going one with his weird imagery, talking about a painting: ''Interviewer:One of your recent paintings, "So This Is Love", seems to take a fairly dark view of love. #life goalYou can wait. '''Part 2:When you take from the equation the Ni bias that comes with Transcendental Meditation which makes him describe his process as quite Ni, and compare with how his actual process is, it actually sounds more like his main drive is again, feeling tones that come to him in fragments. I just wanted to say that there's a stronger case for ISFP like Butterfly made than some people seem to believe, it's my second choice after INFP, far above INFJ right now. q=DAVid+lynch+so+this+is+love&biw=1024&bih=602&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj39OKdx4bNAhXI2xoKHYNeDYAQ_AUICCgD#tbm=isch&q=david+lynch+paintings&imgrc=41kW3ObKDgccSM%3A On a side note, I don't think I'm the only one who sees a similarity between his paintings, and that of Kurt Cobain:''https://www. All that feels more Ne. Don't you think on the surface, Drive looks very Se. Wouldn't Si be more nostalgic about it. And making a movie about the ''cruelty'' and ''shallowness'' of the beauty industry is one of the most cliche things ever. It's more the lack of Se aesthetic in his more personal projects ('paintings' or short movies) that makes it clear for me. From what I understand what was hindering Lynch from finishing the movie was lack of money, not laziness. Butterfly what is your problem. And in Enneagram land, something that isn't 5. If you were to see a photograph of that not knowing what it was, it would be unbelievably beautiful. , you need a more conventional, Se like aesthetic, but I don't think INFPs lack in aesthetics sensibilities department either. Ni is the most difficult part to talk about; theories of strong Ni in INFPs. The ISFP's work questions "What does this song/film make you feel. ) But I guess he doesn’t seem like the typical Ni type in what he focuses on either. He also said that his movies aren't about a social message, which seems odd for an NFJ. Watch this interview about 16', the way he insults Mads Mikkelsen, the most un-INFP behavior. Since INFP seems completely off to me, and I don't think he is INFJ, I'm prone to concluding that you are underestimating, lol. There is all the weird colors, interesting details in the background, etc. To find out what your MBTI personality type is you need to complete the MBTI questionnaire and take part in a feedback session from a qualified MBTI practitioner.. When he says that Mikkelsen is an airhead, that's like when I call Shane Carruth lazy or something. David Lynch = Badass motherfucker (Se). Dreamer I associate most with INFP, and Aesthete with ISFP, so I vote him INFP overall. He mostly doesn't go into philosopical generalties and when he does he explains it in a mysterious way, like the fact that a script is made from ideas sounds like a religious thing from him. For one, I find the music he makes very Ne in aesthetic, but I think any can like whatever style of aesthetics they like, it's more a matter of personal taste. ''Putting aside how strange it is, it seems like what is of real interest for David Lynch is feeling tones (Fi). Furthermore, note his interest in new age-y stuff like Transcendental Meditation. Does it make you want to dance. Sort of like the movie Stalker by Tarkovsky, for the most it's just footage of dirty water and industrial decay, but it's filmed with such an unique sensitivity that it makes more than all the symbolism in the world. The world seemed to be more quiet when the plane was passing through the sky. I find Refn full of himself and unplesant as a person. He has that intense, cool Se/Ni vibe, but at the same time he is clearly not Fe. ), draws, paints and makes music while just taking in good faith a type of meditation that supposedly can hinder natural catastrophes if enough people do it, affecting the aura of the environment or something. Your post about him being ISFP made me more sure about him being INFP :) (in the sense that I still can't see Eraserhead ISFP, lol). ''I changed my vote to INFP. Did you understad what I said. INFJ 5w4 9w1 4w5 sp/so. = Introverted. Rest was all rubbish. And he's flipping one puzzle piece at a time into me. So Lynch simply changed it another gas. @fuckboy: "hello to" is always right though, so you must listen. Not saying Lynch is ISFJ, but it got me thinking. jpg It's like Winding Refn has been going, "Let's do that. Why not Extraverted Sensation instead of Introverted Sensation. I tought this was bizzare Si but he's weirdly specific about how things feel to him, in a way that I'm just not. "In its place, Lynch presented Eraserhead, which he had developed based on a daydream of a man's head taken to a pencil factory by a small boy. And yes, he's INFP. Btw, do you have an official name yet for the "dreamer-aesthete thingy", as you called it. What I found he has an aptitude for, is explaining textures and sensations from other sensory elements, yet he's still the world strangest ISFP: he's fascinated by the textures of ducks, hairless rats, band aids (. I haven't seen any works of Lynch but I wouldn't necessarily associate his works with surrealism with him being INFP or INFJ. (As evidence of his poor capacity to explain the emotions in his movies or the ideas in it, but his varied impressions of sensorial impressions he collects) #idlebody, If you want to type every interesting person as a Ni-dom, fine. His Ne is strong too. I didn't think of it. But anyway, my main arguments are how he started Eraserhead from a bizzare day dream and that his movies aren't 'meaningless' as you seem to take, rather their meaning is more personal. Dennis Hopper, who didn't know what helium did to your voice, asked Lynch why he would be breathing helium when other gasses make you feel a lot better. That's moronic. He's not a 5, and he's not sx/sp in my view. It feels superficial (and it is asserted) to me. thecityofabsurdity. I don't think it makes sense to type Lynch as an S simply because he's good with aesthetics. I guess you are. I wonder if it would hurt Bobnickmad to admit I'm right at least ~once in a while~ about my weird typings. I think that's a very technical, minor point to topple my otherwise successful line of reasoning. Intuitive FFFFF FFFFF SSSSSSSSSSSSSSeriously though, why do we keep coming back to this "tertiary Ni" idea when we keep invalidating the theory of function stacks over and over. Also I feel Lynch's depiction of small town life may just as well be a Se thing. Apparently that's all he did and left. He even has one character turn a running garden hose in the direction of the camera for a moment, as if he is peeing at the audience. He knows how to look cool and nearly always pulls of some kind of self-conscious elegant pose, just like Camus or Knausgård (alleged ISFPs). It was a cheap movie but he build the props manually. Basically it's just a very strange and (at least to me it seems) earnest pop-culture weirdness artifact with no compromises for almost no one. I've heard things to that effect, but I don't really know his influences or paintings well enough to tell if it's a Extraverted Sensing-like relationship he has to them. We i'll have time, i'll fix itSite admin visited us today and deleted the Gregory House page. at the core often, like in INFPs. :PTo explain the Dennis Hopper thing more closely: Lynch basically allowed himself to be corrected for realism (Se). At the same time, Lynch doesn't explain things in a very Ne way, I mean he talks ABOUT ideas, rather than talking ideas. He seems pretty Ni in the internal imagery and imagination sense and I think he should be some N (he’s not trying to communicate only the extremity of a sensation. INFJ can also have personal aesthetics, but it wouldn't be so unconventional I think, their feelings tones would still have something of what's appreciated in the culture they live in (Fe), while for Lynch it's individualized and. And it feels fake. Robert Crumb is sx/sp; look at the man and then his work, do they match. It's amazing that such a visually impressive movie was made with low budget, but Lynch managed it because he got involved with building props and had an instinctive eye for light and shadows. Gifted people are difficult to type. But to me he has lived dark, strong and genuine Ni, which he shows in his movies but he's not comfortable with that because he's an INFP after all. Actually just read Debaser's comments at the bottom of the page. Further proof of how individualized his feeling tones are:''Different paintings would have different sounds. I'm an 4w5 too and I don't look half as cool as David Lynch. He has ideas which look like images rather than images that look like ideas, if that makes any sense. David Lynch: "I always say, it's like there's a man in another room with the whole film together, but they're in puzzle parts. http://afistfulofculture. Or maybe he has some interesting points to make, but it ruins it with cheap shock value, sort of like Marlyin Manson. I understand that with Camus or Johny Depp, but Lynch. I also get the impression he likes his 'paintings' for the materials he uses to make them more than anything, and they're Francis Bacon worship anyway. Anyway, the main thing with a system like MBTI is to eliminate inconsistencies or convoluted explanations, as long as it does the person typed justice. I'd still like to see Bob's opinion on Refn now. I think they makes INFJ very clear. Doesn't really sound like a person living in ideas (N). Finally, take a look at this interview. ''Self-Pres Fours are particularly sensitive to comfort issues—the temperature of a room, the quality of the lighting, the humidity or lack of it, the weather—all produce powerful emotional responses. Because the meaning, it's a very personal thing, and the meaning for me is different than the meaning for somebody else. v=Fxr-7O1Bfxg"Introverted intuition reflects on patterns, relationships, symbols, meanings, and perspectives on matters from complex phenomena to magical connections to practical problems. Does it make you horny. CelebrityTypes thinks he is INFP, this place thinks he is INFJ, but actually he is ISFP. Does it make you want to punch someone in the face. Anyway, I'm trying to develop my own personal ''system'', based on MBTI but not tied to the functions (except the dominant and inferior). " (Ne) Personally I'm sad whenever I think of that, because I think it would had been so cool. And IMO, by comparison, those things of alleged depth Refn says seem pretty shallow and empty intellectualism, probably because he's such a self-centered individual. There are no deep conscious ethical messages with Lynch's work as you would imply. He does have Ni but it is a strong Ni. Compare to similar director Nicolas Winding Refn (INFP) who tends to have a lot more complex and developed metaphors. I mean, you could claim that by letters he's I-N-F-P, but he seems more in touch with Se than Ne. was a very human story, masterfully executed, and the weirdness actually gave weight to the characters drama. At the end of the day he is a very visual director (who cares little about meaning, etc. Also, similar with what I pointed could be Fi-Si below, Blue Velvet seems mainly to be about his idylic childhood and the contrast with the dark side of society he found out later. Coming back to him, while in my system he's one of the more ''intuitive'' types: Dreamer-Aesthete, I think in the 4 function model he's still more Fi-Se-Ni-Te than Fi-Ne-Si-Te. Then again you'd have to look at the suject matter of his work. I see it too clearly. t=4m36s And I'm definitely not saying any INFP is going to like Nicolas Winding Refn movies nor necessarily trying to convince you of his work's qualities, I'm just trying to point to some of things I think are going on in the movie, suggestive of his particular INFP-ness. INFPs create Ni through strong Fi+Ne fueled by Si (theory, don't quote me). This guy is what I call a ''Dreamer-Aesthete''. Dreamers are people for which imagination and dreams have more appeal than simple every-day life, they have the feeling that another world, more exciting exists somewhere beneath the reality of this world and the mind can bring it to life. Laura Harring also said he has a very visual way of explaining things, or another actor about how he gives instructions like "you have a plastic bag on your face" to explain what he wants from him. His surrealism also carries a lot more meaning. As for Lynch and Murakami; I think they are incredibly different. But I still see The Neon Demon as the assertion of shallow Se, not Ne. He argues his case, unlike MBTI master who just know things. This is a guy who put his hand on a hot car and he immediately imagined The Red Room. It's pretty cliched stuff. I went to see The Neon Demon with my INFP friend, and she was disgusted and impressed at how bad she thought the film was, so that's not an INFP thing as you would like to see it, but just your own take on Refn. He also said he started making films to see his paintings moving. I don't claim to have the truth on the matter, but the four function models leads to overtly-convoluted explanations and ignores half of someone's functions. He's all about textures, moods, visual contrasts, nothing Ni-Fe about the guy. The weirdness is its own statement (Se+Ni). So This Is Love, would have a muffled sound like talking through a glove. ) or I am overestimating what an ISFP can do. Jung theorized that the dominant function acts alone in its preferred world: exterior for extraverts and interior for introverts.. Bob Dylan was just a folk-singer with really plain simple lyrics with no intention of being original, then I realized he had to become his own person, read lots of books and somehow this lead to Desolation Row. On the other hand I can imagine an ISFP. Of course, for a long movie like Blue Velvet or Mulholland Dr. It's actually a bad example, as many INFJ writers (Dostoievski, Mishima etc. DL:Because darkness has crept in since then. Later Hopper found out what helium does to your voice and he regretted his suggestion. I still can't explain the Eraserhead thing but I came to agree on ISFP on 3 main motives from reading writen interviews and stuff: 1) He was very hands on, 'artisan' (SP) with making Eraserhead. David Lynch is somewhat imposing and strange. This reminds me when a school psychology counselor (who was also a philosophy teacher, either INFJ or ISFJ) asked me what I like about me, and I answered ''I can see beauty in everything''. com/quotes/authors/d/david_lynch. "In fact, there were two Dale Coopers. I also think what Bobnickmad was saying about INFP vs. v=I7xhdtq9N90. And when he makes a movie like Inland Empire, shoots it himself with a pd 150 (very poor dv cam), he does not care about the quality of the image that much, but enjoys the freedom to make little movies on his own. This is way too funny. I can NOT see him as an Fe-dom though. Both of you do not have very convincing argument for either type. Another thing is that few ISFPs are interested in MBTI, or very good at it, and can thus defend themselves. Another argument: Google "Nicolas Winding Refn" or "Tim Burton", and google "David Lynch". Lynch was lazy (not about Eraserhead, I just meant to say that he was not productive as you would expect an ISFP filmmaker to be). #idlebody, What do you think of Kubrick. ''It's a feeling that the story gives'' but really not good at making that feeling understood. Butterfly is way too lazy for something like that. There's an interview with Charlie Rose about Straight Story, and he really struggles to explain what is that attracted him to the story. I think Miyazaki and Mann are pretty uncontroversial, lol. Similar with Kubrick with conventional movies like The Kill before going 2001 and stuff. And I guess is because I can't see myself having a fluent conversation with this guy. If you enjoyed this entry, find out about the personality types of Acting and Movie Industry characters list.. He is making the person in that interview uncomfortable, lol. It generally helps INFP them unify their subjective Fi impressions into some world-view and visualize their dream-worlds. I find it strange to think of him as INFP being me one. After thinking I get to some clarity on this, it all failed apart. And at first it's very abstract and I don't have a clue. I find Refn agressive, and The Neon Demon is the worst film I've seen in theaters. Don't you feel he's too much weird all the time to be ISFP tough. Butterfly is giving everyone a nice good lesson. com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/drive-still03. The difference between this movie and Mullholand Drive (Lynch alone) may be the answer. Does it make you want to laugh or cry. I don't find that much depth in the things Butterfly say about Refn. I don't expect a Ne user to talk about his movie means, but rather to talk about various things starting from the movie, yet Lynch just dwelves in this mystical cliches. I imagine stuff like that often. A Bug Dreams would be a really shrill 15. The darkness is realizations about the world and human nature and my own nature all combined into one ball of sludge. #Zeego, It has to do with how people see the world differently, so don't know; World-View Personality Types. And apparently he forms many of his 'ideas' from sounds. If he was INTJ, that would explain his resourcefulness as a J quality, but we seemed to agree on Ti-dom. I have no clue what "evilish persona" is or what that has to do wtih INFJ. I suppose it's possible that David developed his Ni through that as well. There's also the quote I posted about how one of his paintings is a serene image of his childhood but ''darkness has crept in''. @bobnickmad Hmm, yeah David's a confusing guy. His aesthetics and humor is very Se and Ni so I would guess ISFP or INFJ. deals with how dreams are formed in the last part and Eraserhead is all N in aesthetic. But photos capture that very well. So my vote is for 4w5 sp/sx. Lynch's work is intense as fuck and also twisted. INFJ may be peculiar in their intuition, but their feeling is extraverted, it find itself in other's emotions, it connects with it, and as such is good at explaining itself to someone else. It's just a streak in him. You people should open your minds a little more. But yes, I have a problem differentiating INFPs from INFJs and ISFPs lately. Or his weird mini movies, like The Alphabet which seem pure abstractions. Si finds comfort in routine, and Ne imagination is left to wonder in all directions without being distracted by the every day 'surprises'. We have INFJs as weird as Lars von Trier and Marilyn Manson, who upset people on purpose. Okay, so I've finally taken the time to take a careful look at David Lynch, and I come out absolutely convinced that he is an ISFP. Also, in interviews he has this aerian, alien like aura about him that INFx have, and you can't fake this but you can fake 'badass', compare with ISFPs like Coppola, they're more earthy. He also lacks the intensity of an sx in person. He even seems weirder alongside actual ISFPs though. Se, even coupled with Ni has a certain conventional aesthetic that lacks completely from his 'paintings'. )I want to make movies so girls would obsess over me on internet forums. He seems more focused on the sensations that ideas produce rather than ideas themselves. I started watching from about 16 minutes in and I didn't see any insults. It takes superficial beauty so far that at the end, it's has become something gruesome and disgusting. And then one day, there it is. ''When I ask why he wants to stick to this redundant diet, he tells me that it's 'reassuring. Imo it's not very Se at all, but an almost moralistic fairy tale. You could turn it around and say taking 8 years is evidence of his perseverance, suggesting SP. ""To give a sense of place, to me, is a thrilling thing. And so the details are incredibly important. :P"As a teenager, I was really trying to have fun 24 hours a day. There's a the fact that he's an obviously gifted person, which makes it more likely to have several functions strongly developed, thus more likely an ISFP with strong Ni then an INFJ with poor Fe and even poorer Ti. Se users might need something like that to concentrate, a specific sensory thing, like Lynch has his chocolate milk because their senses are otherwise so sensitive. I don't think that would work though. Not saying INFJs are bad. Maybe someone we think is INFP or something out there is actually a dark ISFJ. I can't put all my thoughts here because I don't like to write too much. To me, as an INFP, I've always kind of felt unsatisfied with Lynch (except Twin Peaks which is co-written) because I want the weirdness to go somewhere, but it never does. It's going to be so weird and awesome. As for Lynch, I'm still unsure between INFP and INFJ, but I don't really see ISFP in him. Even if not directly tested, public voting can provide good accuracy regarding David Lynch Myers-Briggs and personality type!. The whole movie is intuition from start to finish. And the quote about details is actually very Si, not Se. DL:''Inspiration is like a piece of fuzz – it kind of comes up and makes a desire and an image that causes me to want to paint it. Also, the fact that he has this thing with the world hidden behind the real world, the meeting of the normal and the bizzare, the journey in a weird world hidden behind the surface, strikes me very INFP. @Kami-samaaa: If you read lots of my posts, I definitely don't claim everyone is an ISFP. My only addition is the separation into clouded and unclouded function. , N because the way they take this projects into this mind-blowing creations that stretch the limits of their genre and tend to be contemplative people. ISFP anger fits with Winding Refn who is more someone who looks like he is about to blow up at any moment than genuinely, naturally aggressive. I feel like it’s hard to know what to type him in Jung. Someone is spamming. His main ability lies in knowing how particular sensations feel like, not articulating abstract ideas or relatable emotions. When you look at those paintings, even though the motives are surreal, there is a sort of earthy evenness to their beauty (Se). or from some kind of mixing of ideas. You make me want to change votes for both Lynch and Refn as ISFP. He also demonstrates introverted feeling. I don't see what the last part of your comment has to do with the rest. According to Mikkelsen, Winding Refn is a complete nerd you can't discuss anything but movies with. It's the poses and everything. Basically, since Ni is usually clouded by Ne, it tends to not show at the surface of most INFPs, but is actually an important part of their psyche, it's just its domain is limited and put to serve Ne. Fe would be more broad and would depict the issues between people; like a drama. For an INFJ not to have developed his Ti enough to interpret his own works, it would mean his Fe would be very developed but that's not the case, he's not very emotionally articulate, and if FJs are one thing, it's emotionally articulate. Or how he imagined The Red Room from a warm red car. I thought that if spam votes can't be deleted than whole page should be deleted and re-added. He's a clear self-preserving 4w5. I'll stop posting here, I promise. Butterfly wins this one. #butterfly won me here, but you can still save yourself. Anyway, SP=/=regimented routine. Actually, Eraserhead is incredibly Se. Only watched Drive, which I really liked for being a simple story executed in a careful way with superb visuals. I don't think being iresponsible is N tough, as many homeless alcoholics people are there. Introverted intuition typically creates a unique vision and arrives at unique insights about things, phenomena, or people. If Lynch is ISFP I guess there would have to be some kind of art style of type of painting that he is building on, even when making movies. Anyway, ISFP David Lynch got me thinking. An ISFP would be an aesthete dedicated to reality. I also think that either you are underestimating what an ISFP can do (in terms of starting out with surrealism, etc. When you're a child, something as simple as a tree doesn't make sense. Supposedly Agent Cooper is based on Lynch himself and he is quite clearly an INFJ and that is what the crowd here unanimously says too. I think he's just one of those people who's hard to type and has a lot of highly-developed functions. The MBTI questionnaire sorts people into one of 16 different personality types.. :PWell played Buttefly,but. The way he puts out his emotions lacks the subtlety of an INFP IMO. So, if we would type them best what they excel at, Lynch would be S-N-F while Kubrick S-N-T, which makes them better justice than typing them S or N. It would've been better if he transferred some more powers to mods, maybe power to delete filthy things. Meanwhile it's makes no sense with a SP. A lot of votes in a few minutes. What would an artistic, anti-social ISFJ look like. But a movie script seems more complex than that. The similarity is easy explained by both Lynch and Murakami being Ne-Si INFPs, not ISFP and INFJ. *unusual high range, 3) Related to 2. https://youtu. Don't take my picture though. DL:It's like a negative image of my childhood. For example in Neon Demon different character function as metaphors for different powers in the beauty industry. I, for one, am actually INFP myself. His enneatype is hard to tell, he's very 4w5 and very 5w4 and sometimes very 9w1 when he talks about world peace and stuff. Lynch is also a musician (Se) and an artist (Se) in addition to directing movies primarily known for being visually interesting (Se). He wouldn't kill a fly. htmlMusing on Lynch,Part 1: #randomguy:''Many of his explanation is more of a personal impression based on sensory experience which suggests Fi and Si. FJ are verbally emotionally articulated (not this guy), NP are good at putting complex ideas in simple terms, not really him either. I saw Van Gogh in the INFP heaven. Like there's this thing about innocence and how it can turn to its dark-side in Lynch movies (Blue Velvet, Mulholland: the main characters start as innocent people, yet their curiosity/sensitivity turn to voyeurism+adultery/crime), or people not escaping from their conscious (Lost Highway, Mulholland, is about people escaping their guilty conscious inside their minds yet it all unravels bit by bit from inside) which in itself carries importance, because Fi itself weight those things. In fact Blue Velvet's plot seems mainly driven by ideas who's values serves in settingba mood (songs, ears, ants, clothes etc. However, seeing as how he is very structured in his everyday life, maybe he isn't really inferior in Te. Compare to for example the aesthetic of, yes, Winding Refn-sama's Drive. In fact why do you need different types for them when they're so similar in the first place. Eraserhead seems to be very much like the works of Kafka, strange, surreal metaphors of his own personal anxieties, mainly that of being a father. You'll never see an INFJ call strangers "Friends", only a naive INFP. It's pretty obvious is spammed like many entries. Of course bobnickmad is another peasant like you. #Zeego, Yeah, I also know this, the thing is with the hands-on approach and resoursfulness a director like Lynch or Kubrick need to have. ^^ How upset you are may better be explained by Winding Refn having cut the throat of Fe to achieve Fi. He's close to Robert Altman in a way, and I now think the part of his work which seems Ni was actually co-written. '' SP are about being exploratory when it comes to the senses, but Si, even lower Si is bound to same kind of routine or another. I was watching this vid on YT about Lost Highway and he said that he was inspired/obsessed by the OJ Simpson case and the horror that implies to live with that. At first glance, the movie looks positively wacky. bobnickmad should refrain from voting and commenting because he has no fucking clue how to differentiate ISFPs from INFPs, and he knows this. He says he separates movies and family. Nicholas Winding Refn = Looks like a sack of potatoes (Tertiary Si), might have a playful smile (Ne). Anyway, I guess IxFP pr INFJ. rememberGregory House' discussion havn't be deleted, i jude hid te page. But the meaning of the red room doesn't really matter much to Lynch, I think. Finally, it's not just Lynch's hair. If they're wrong, then it throws you out of the mood. And so the sound and music and color and shape and texture, if all those things are correct and a woman looks a certain way with a certain kind of light and says the right word, you're gone, you're in heaven. Discover Array, and more, famous people, fictional characters and celebrities here!. Seems to have pretty low social instinct for a film director. David Lynch = Surrealism. He doesn't seem to have that "investigator" passion for diving deep into topics, preferring to focus on juxtaposing objects of emotional complexity, to create a dissonant manipulator of the subconscious. His look is 4w5, not Se, definitely not bad-ass. He's inarticulate both in Feeling (like in the Charlie Rose interview, Charlie Rose is Fe and it's easy to see the awkwardness in that interview) and Intuition, instead he's very good at explaining how sounds and textures or comparing sounds and textures etc. The boy-scout one with a character-defining fondness for 'damn fine coffee' and cherry pie – who Lynch's ex-wife Mary Sweeney recently told me is based on Lynch himself – was still imprisoned in the Black Lodge, where he was in conversation with, among others, a talking tree and a soon-to-be-abducted-again Palmer ('I am dead, yet I live,' she uttered). Sorry about that. Just like Speed Gavroche posted on the french side he values comfort, peace of mind and tranquility way too much to be sx/sp. Intuitive types frequently will have complex visions or perspectives that they are unable to explain with clarity to others. He would have that Ni to create said surreal piece of work. An airplane splutters by his head pumping smoke into the night sky; can you talk a bit about this piece. Butterfly what is your problem. David Lynch is absolutely NO sack of potatoes INFP. Because like David, Russell Brand also practices transcendental meditation and despite Russell being ENFP, he managed to develop his Ni through that. Self-Pres Fours become frustrated that the environment is insufficiently attuned to their personal needs. I'm a 495 trytipe which is consider very imaginative, Lynch is probably 459 or something, but I can't imagine the trytipe making someone's daydreams so surreal without a clear preference for Intuition over Sensation.
. He lacks the intensity of an sx/sp. Sorry those who trusted me. He's interested in society as a whole, sending out tweets on his twitter wanting to know what and how everyone is doing. Looking at this painting and comparing it to Winding Refn-sama's style, I still feel that Lynch could very well be Se. I think an INFP or INFJ as fulfilled as Lynch would be a bit more intellectually, intuitively sophisticated. ), plus that he puts ideas above everything in interviews, alongside his very subjective, non-Fe personal feeling tones, so Fi+Intuition over sensation would make most sense. I could become a better actor than david lynch and win an oscar award I am the best actor their is#idlebody. That seems very 4 rather than 5, but he still may have a 5 wing. The metaphor about fatherhood is actually pretty banal (Tertiary Ni). About Mikkelsen "it's like speaking to an airhead". regimented tertiary Si. Couldn't there theoretically be ISFJs like this. sx/sp right there for you. You know there are plenty of people I still think are INFP though. When the dedication to Winding Refn's wife comes and Sia starts singing about the voices in her head that tell her to treat herself better, I can actually believe in it because Winding Refn has told in his own extremely personal way and insulted the establishment every way he could on the way. But it's very idea-based - "doing a realistic superhero origin story". His films are full of abstractions and "strangeness" that pervade any sense of realism, and in interviews he always seems like a head-in-the-clouds type. It's better not to know so much about what things mean. Also this quote by him strikes me as very INFx: "It makes me uncomfortable to talk about meanings and things. Than again there are ISP musicians that compose sobg lyrics or music in their mind first. Lynch doesn't have that evilish streak INFJs show sometimes, among other things I've thought about him. Like George Lucas using old movies or many ISFP writers hiding twisted version of biographical stuff in their stories. Another argument: Note that Lynch is famous for weird stuff, like peeing on set in front of everyone (not kidding). As for The Neon Demon, it's one of my favorite experiences of 2016, movies and not. “Sensations that ideas produce” could be used to convolutedly argue for Jung’s Ne type because it would be like repression of all normal sensations so only idea based ones can be felt and the rush of expanding towards ideas can be followed. And he is not sx/sp. The collective consciousness (social instinct) is very important to him. He did not realise what were his responsibilities until then. Look, only because I type this people ISP, it doesn't mean their movie aren't meaningful. Also note how his movies, when he's not being surreal, tend to be very down-to-earth stories about common life as it is lived (Se). I think that's more inferior Te + Se than Te + Ne. He's about sensory impressions and what he feels about them, with a strong but inarticulate interest in Ni. More puzzle pieces come, more ideas are caught, and it starts forming a thing. When he says he likes "going into strange worlds you build" he means it literary. In an INFP that's into visual arts, Ni is more useful so it can be more obvious than a INFP who's not into visual arts. Or does the conservatism of Si hinder the possibility. I agree with everything Bob said. He enjoys habitual behaviors and routines (like eating the same meal every day for months) that allow him to free his mind to think about other things (Ni+Ti). #segovois, there are people here who troll with modified names of original users, please do not delete the original users. He movies aren't as deep as some make them out to be, he is very shallow and self obsessed like kurt cobain ( also infp ). Or a butterfly. I was doing regular goof-ball stuff. Couldn't there theoretically be ISFJs like this. @bobnickmad: sorry that was my fault. Very much like Kubrick, he was a true 'artisan' , not just someone with ideas, his later movies were more expensive yet less ambitious because he lacked time and control. I can't explain other diets he has though. I guess, by comparison ISPs are more focused, while INPs are more exploratory. Lynch persona is not dark at all. ) are obsessed with the idea of murder and ethics. Murakami is unassuming, warm, funny and wise. I just have a really hard time making sense of Lynch as a INFP and especially INFJ. The anecdote went something like that. Cooper is not Lynch IMO, as I said before the part of his work that appears INFJ/Ni was co-written. He explained it somewhere better, by sticking to a routine, he can leave his mind freely to day-dream. butterrfly=/=buterfly. I'm quite puzzled by the loss of quality in discussion on this site. Other Dreamer-Aesthetes include Tim Burton, Charles Baudelaire and Hideaki Anno. Yeah, INFP spamming. The simple fact that it took 8 years for him to make eraserhead, not to mention is laziness is just so un-SP. For example in portraying what it feels like to encounter a foreign culture, he created some very bizarre images (Valhalla Rising), and in trying to convey frustration at going too far about superficial beauty, he creates some really horrific, fascinating images (Neon Demon), etc. *A true bunch of mental masturbators. We think we understand the rules when we become adults but what we really experienced is a narrowing of the imagination. Anyway I find #butterfly comment that I don't wanna agree with her weird since I did agreed with Myazaki, Mann and later even Gaiman, and I never managed to sway her not once from what I know, so it's really unfair for her to say that. In reality that sky would've been blue and Technicolor and the plane would've been a large military plane that made a droning sound. I can imagine an ISFP going down in the direction that they sort of decide to make their art about this type of amusement. there are no surprises there' ''. jpg http://somamagazine. But Lynch talks only about ideas and how thet attract each other. INFPs are aesthete that try to break the conventions of reality through imagination. Anyway, I think creative processes vary for everyone of course, but I have the impression ISFPs tend to be copyists (through Se). Mark Frost was the brain of Twin Peaks (He wrote, directed and produced on his own the last episodes of the first season of the show because Lynch left to do Wild at Heart, and they are amazing), Lost Highway was co-written by Barry Gifford. Mark Frost could very well be INTJ. Routine or not I think you need to look at other things to know if he was a J, in this case an INFJ (Ni-dom) as your theory. Like for example Blue Velvet, come from the image of an ear in the grass, then he heard one of the song that is played the movies, and all kinds of images that eventually set the overall mood. I could see him as a very disturbed Fi dom with backfiring Te. Lynch is basically the Feeler version of Kubrick. I think Lynch has some sort of Tertiary Ni fixation with surrealism. I didn't know I'd actually swayed you with Gaiman. Evilish in his persona, not his movies. jpg https://projectedperspectives. Isabel Briggs Myers, a researcher and practitioner of Jung’s theory, proposed to see the judging-perceiving relationship as a fourth dichotomy influencing personality type.. For example, your beloved Refn and Drive. You've definitely studied him a lot closer in terms of MBTI than I have, so there's that. He's similar with Bob Dylan and Chino Moreno from Deftones in the sense that sensorial impression suggests surrealistic images but those images are valued for their quality as images and not much more. Him being an INFP has access to Ni in 6th place, so it's strong (theory) but it's not natural to him. " That's how an ISFP approaches their creations. If anything, Fi doms appear colder and likely to be "evil" from the outside, while the Fe of INFJs gives a warmer, outwardly kind exterior. So there's a strong message behind. I only liked some of his movies, instead of liking them all and being a big fan like other mbti types. In a way, it would be more easy to see him as an ISFP than an INFJ. He's one of the more outgoing fives. You are a ISFP who wants everyone to be ISFP or is it just a troll. it all points towards INFP imo, though opposite to Lynch one could perhaps say mundanely he is an I-S-F-P. I guess I'm gifted. When confused between ISFP and INFP, always look for signs on "sack of potatoes" - Works 100%. But Lynch because of X event(s) in his life knows what genuine Ni means and has scared him for life; that Ni is what he's trying to show you in his movies. He does seem to have that inferior rejected Te thing going on, which would make sense for an INFP. It actually seems like Ti that he represses the most. Like when I'm reading some really abstract book or when I was studying philosophy, she had me tell her about it, being the only really patient Sensor listener of my friends on this subject, and she was always awfully amused by it. David Lynch main insterest is ze mind. You are a ISFP who wants everyone to be ISFP or is it just a troll. What is the best option for the MBTI type of David Lynch? What about enneagram and other personality types?. Murakami, whether he is INFP or INFJ, is heavily concerned with society and community even when he tells us not to care. He's also slightly out of balance (Inferior Te) - though I think a lot of that is also a sort of Ne-based impression of a pretentious movie director and Danish movie industry culture (note Lars von Trier's douchy Fe) -- and he is a sack of potatoes (Si). But my general argument about Winding Refn is wackiness (Ne) and earnestness/always-following-his-heart (Fi). " So you can see the weird stuff in his movie is not meaningless like you seem to imply. com/site/wp-content/uploads/drive-DRV-01381_rgb. The evil hiding just under the surface sounds Se+Ni to me above all. Not Lynch tough. that seems very Te. butterfly: "We have INFJs as weird as Lars von Trier and Marilyn Manson, who upset people on purpose. I can't imagine Se-Ni jumping connections like that: warm car -- surrealist roim, with only the color red in common. Meanwhile, ISTPs like Kubrick deal with some of the logical implications the story, another type would pass over, because Ti itself weight those things. Also it's obviously an ongoing joke between Mikkelsen and Winding Refn which the interviewer is consciously referring to with his choice of words. Just because he's not gay doesn't mean he's not an INFP. They're not at all interested in concrete ideas. < Also just in general the way he phrases himself, being a sack of potatoes, etc. It gives him some kind of spiritual/aesthetic experience. Where are the ideas. Because on the one hand, he talks about introverted intuition quite a lot. But what do we make of Kubrick. About how his inspiration works: before making Eraserhead he wanted to make "Gardenback was a surrealist script about adultery which featured a continually growing insect representing one's man's lust for his neighbor. INFJ 5w4 so/sx. There's not much to the movie in terms of themes or stuff, it's just a very simple story but it looks gorgeous, with an excellent eye for visuals, sound and atmosphere, as you can find in Blue Velvet or Mulholland Dr. You see it in the distance and it looks small, but as you go closer, it seems to grow – you haven't got a handle on the rules when you're a child. The thing with a guy like Lynch or Kubrick is that they were very practical at the lowest level -cinematography- which helped them great movies with amazing cinematography (2001, Eraserhead) much cheaper than many others would have. Not saying ISxP can't be intuitive creators as well though. A Ni-dom would talk about concepts and archetypes in their work instead of rambling on and on how ''ideas are a beautiful thing'' and never getting anywhere like he read it in a book but never got after the first chapter. Either Kubrick is indeed NT and then all contemplative directors are N types, or Kubrick is ISTP and everyone else remains in doubt. There's a cameo he did in Twin Peaks where he talks about cofee and he seems more outer-wordly than Copper himself who's INFJ, and he just plays himself. Did you read what I wrote below, bobnickmad. I:This is a pleasant memory for you, yet you've translated it into a dark image; why. Only talking about his persona again. He can't write or think without it. @butterfly: every typology genius know ISFPs are very plain, have simple ideas and use easy words. Because Lynch is an ISFP, he allowed himself to be corrected (Se). Eraserhead, the final of Twin peaks improvised, the ending sequence of Blue Velvet dreamed the day before the shooting, the chaotic Inland Empire. And by that token, you could say Lynch is more image driven, than idea driven. Also notice how he's constantly talking about his family and analyzing which actors he relates to and doesn't, basically like me and bobnickmad are constantly doing on this site, lol. But he's comSurrealism = Absurd, random, quirky, wild kind of intuition (Ne) + lack of logical coherence (not Ti) = xNFP. Unlike his movies, the sensuality is taken out from there, instead they are unsettling on a visceral level, in a way that suggest an unhealthy low Si to me (Si being interiorized sensation, opposed to extroverted one). Like I was in school, and I saw this piece of metal in my mind there appeared this full image of a grey alien ocean, with black towers that were populated by unseen organism, and there were this red dots floating around, and all this, the ocean, the towers seemed organic. But Lynch doesn't have that. Now I see 6 votes, but there were more earlier. Don't how an ISFPs imagination actually works, but if an ISFP can have this kind of instant imagination, I wasted my time beign an INFP. I do agree that there are some ISFP-ish thing to him, but he wouldn't be the first INFP with an appreciation for visuals or sound. Over and over he makes the same mistake; get a job already. And after Eraserhead he is a picture of 6w5 to me. He uses some self-preservation to keep safe distance from the world, but also to pratically utilise his visions in interesting ways. Yet, I still finds his ideas too weird and non-linear for an ISFP ( a kid growing a benevolent grandmother from a seed. Lynch did surrealist paintings before he started the movie, and imo this is what the movie first of all reflects: The film itself is all about interesting visuals and audio design, where I remember the latter being especially praised. For the record, I love his work prior to Drive. :) Anyway, you have actually swayed me. But it's all the little details. I disagree though. I mean, if we look at someone like Bob Dylan or Stanley Kubrick we see that before they got into weirdness they were rather conventional. Huh, these are good points. Because Lynch seems very in his own mind. He could be ISFP as well. Also, if you go on David Lynch's twitter and if you replace "Dear Twitter Friends" with "Diane", you'll realize that his Twin Peaks character Dale Cooper is essentially based on himself. I didn't start thinking until I was 20 or 21. He has inferior sensing as he's not really the type to cook or clean for himself. And let's do that and that and that. As I understand, Se users can get very angry and scary suddenly, and just as suddenly cool down, while Si users come of as less scary in the moment but takes them more time to cool off, as if Si users are a storm passing by while Se users are a thunder. , I liked the idea of having this guy on my INFP but he always weird to me among the others. Yet, compared to your average ISFP, his images are more influenced by his unconscious. Note also that Eraserhead was Stanley Kubrick's (ISTP) favorite film. I see his function strength as something like: Ni > Fi > Fe > Ne > Se > Si > Ti > Te, and it all comes down to trying to come up with one type that best represents him which is very difficult. "I try to keep things very divided". There is a good reason why surreal films are almost always considered dream-like and that has to do with a distinct detachment from concrete reality and thus reality itself is viewed through the arcehtypal lense of Ni which is concerned more with a certain distinct nature of reality than it's literal physical depiction. I personally have things like that quite often. That last comment of you makes me think a lot already about INFPs in general. But also in his art, such as enjoying to sleep on the sets of Eraserhead or saying he wants to bite his pictures. So, if Refn can do a movie like Drive and not be ISP, so can Lynch. It's something sensory (Se) that in a lightbulb moment perhaps (Ni) leads to something else sensory. For now I think 5w4 fits the best, his main motivation seems to be to present how weird the life is, like there's so much violence and fear and absurd that he retreats into his thoughts and reality starts to blend with dreams and intense visions and a sense of meaninglessness. If Lynch was an INFP I imagine he would have come at it in a different way, in terms of what the red room is supposed to mean, etc. But what confuses me is that I have never seen an ISFP 5w4 before. He obsessively chews Juicy Fruit bubblegum. " So Se+Ni it's unbearable. Taking this into account, and the fact that ISFPs are statistically a lot more common than INFJs, INFPs and INTJs, it shouldn't come as a surprise that many "deep" and unusual artists are in fact ISFPs. In this interview you can also see he's philosophical on a very wide range of subjects, while an ISFP would be philosophical in a more restricted way I'd say:http://www. ) in Hollywood. Does this make any sense. I monitor my internal moods (Fi-Si) but he seems to have an usual high range of descriptions for sounds, tactile and visual sensations. Read his autobio, it's all about "fishing" ideas, nothing concrete in there. Lynch's work tends to forgo logical cohesiveness to give impressions, which seems like Fe suppressed Ti. I think if Lynch was INFP would had been like, "Who cares. Of course, I'm not saying INFPs can't be scary in a lower Te moment, but I think INFP would be more of an ''I think he might break down'' type of anger, while he had this very casual but also very imposing kind of anger. We have such different way of comunicating things, I would like to go from one point to anothet and put high ideas in simple terms (Ne) maybe referencincing how I feel inside(Fi-Se), he would stay in place but combine oddly specific impresions with mysterious expressions (Se-Ni). With my description I was not trying to suggest his movie are "deep" or original, but playful/wacky (Ne) and that the ideas seem to come before the images. Apparently, in Blue Velvet, Lynch wanted Dennis Hopper to breathe in helium when he calls for his mommy and whatever in those really weird scenes. He's very sensitive to how the environment feels around him, and I don't see much envy directed to the social sphere or intimates, like for example, from Kurt Cobain (sx/sp). You are in the best place to test MBTI and learn what type David Lynch likely is!. Btw, I wonder if Butterfly started looking for paintings that could have influenced Eraserhead. I also changed to 4w5 sp/sx. Like Kubrick or Lynch, and probably the greatest of movie-makers seems to have succeded because they have both strong S and N characteristics: S because they're good at the lowest levels -light, sound, texture, interior design etc. "INFP that conciously channels Ni. Like Kubrick's more original works were based on books which he modified untill they matched his personal likes and dislikes while adding stuff that accentiate certain aspects of a scene. I also have an ISFP friend, and she actually loves everything off-beat. The plane took a long time to cross the sky and the sound it made was very serene. Introverted xNFP = INFP. He was more tied to reality, he painted stuff that was there in reality and only use his strong imagination for aesthetic purpose. It's an image. When I make up wacky stuff, at least, that's how it works. His father and brother had to come to him and tell him to get a job because he had to support his wife and newly born daughter. don't really know me, but with that single insight I feel like you have looked directly into my soul. Really, because he has 'cool' hair or something. Don't have much to say about Refn. A good way to differentiate ISFP from an NF type is to examine what the artist's intentions are. Mostly psychological, noir, eerie, desolate, esoteric, atmospheric, more dreamy than psychedelic kind of surrealism. Mullhoand Dr for instance hes just bitching abou being a true artist and complaining about hollywood's way of making movies. Overall, I think he's far too erratic to be INFJ. I just thought about it for the last 10 minutes. An xNFJ or xNFP is more interested in hidden meanings, their approach is more "This has a personal meaning for me, I want others to interpret this in their own way to find their own meaning". Honestly, the more interviews I read the more ISFP makes much sense than INFJ. The first is very Ni, convergent, while the second is a puzzle. ISFP valuing Ni, after all the interviews I read and watched with him. Btw #butterfly, do you think being nerdy like that on a specific topic is a sign of tertiary Si. It strives to discover the essence of things and fill in the missing pieces of a puzzle. Ok, who the hell wrote Delete in the title. ''This goes Lynch is a notorious creature of habit: he spent seven years drinking the same chocolate milkshake at the same time every day from Bob’s Big Boy in L. Anyway, the thing that is very clear is that his infj-ness is only on surface level. He even says something like that Mads Mikkelsen is one of the greatest actors in the world and that he was lucky to work with him. That and I also see a more conventional Si aspect to him, in his idealization of small town life and comparing it to the ''corruption'' he later found. I also realized that in order to remain consistent to my system, I have to change Van Gogh to an ISFP (aesthete-dreamer). Everyone=ISFP is doing the Lord's work here. He'd totally be N in MBTI but the concept of the Si type seems to fit him pretty well. ISFP can use Ni, but it's decorative (like with Klimt), Mulholland Dr. *things, patterns, song lyricsDoes anybody knows how an ISFPs artistic process works like. I don't see the moralistic aspects you're referring to. He saw a red car and he imagined a red room. And also like I'm trying to see all the "important movies", going through lists of books, etc. It's certainly not usual, but his weirdness is always on the surface level. I don't see an INFP being that relaxed about their body. I find it uber suspicious that INFJ is winning here looooool''pretentious movie director and Danish movie industry culture (note Lars von Trier's douchy Fe) '' Something's rotten in Denmark indeed. He can pinpoint the sounds he wants in movies in such peculiar yet to him specific ways. Lynch is ISFP and Butterfly will teach you why. ISFPs however abstract they can be are more grounded than that. It probably just struck him what a weird effect a room covered in this color would have. Read his quotes on brainyquote; it screams INFP 4w5. When asked how he achieved those effects with so litle money he said it's about how things are lighten in front of the camera. Between 9 and 17 most of the time, and sometimes around six. q=david+lynch+paintings&biw=1024&bih=602&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjw0tSJs6zNAhXMtBQKHd-MBkMQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=WsjGtOi-ao0fTM%3A Where is Se in there. In a way it's good Lynch would rather not talk about that stuff. Next discussion topic, do you guys think it would be evil for me to actively try to break up Winding Refn's marriage or do I need to just patiently wait :(Well, to be fair - in my last post I was arguing that the elements of Neon Demon that thedude calls "sick Se" or something is in fact general Fi. Like I imagine a SP musician jamming based on some old patterbs and ending up with something sounding completely new from there. In this site you can find out which of the 16 types this character 'David Lynch' belongs to!. *(Fi-Si), on my INFP list, to anotherThat's a good point #hello to, I also tought this, but he excelled at the SP side of movie creation with Eraserhead, and like I said, and he alwayes felt off to me despite being close in type, enneagram and instinct. " You see the same striking, wacky visuals in presumed INFP directors like Tim Burton. Maybe that Transcendental Meditation really works after all. Lost Highway was written with Barry Gifford and what inspired Lynch with OJ is not ethics at all, it's the state fugue, how a man can escape in fantasies refusing to accept his crime. With ISFP all the parts fit and there are no too big problems imo; it's just kind of surprising, that is all. So you have this very strange movie that started from this very strange day dream. I also think Drive is not the best comparison as he's playing with a very specific type of film (though I definitely there is some heavy intuition stuff going on with the hero origin story it's supposed to be), but if you look at more Lynchian movies like Neon Demon and Valhalla Rising, I definitely think Winding Refn-sama is more purpose-laden and conscious of what things are supposed to mean and do, and how he is developing them (Ne+Te) rather than the "take it or leave it" way I feel Lynch does it. Se sort of seems to be where he is at home. Instinctively sx/sp, very passionate, talks a lot about what he likes and dislikes and doesn't fear including his bizzare fantasies into film, he goes for the essence of meditation, unique perception and art. As for Lynch looking bad-ass. ISFP is Fi-Se-(Si)-(Ti)-(Fe)-Ni-(Ne)-Te, if you're interested in my typing logic. He actually seems unusually INFP at the place you pointed me to. It's got some dirt around the edges and the rubber part has formed some black little balls. They can deal with escapism, questioning whether one can escape in the fantasy in their mind from the banality of the world, such works that deal with this include Mulholland Dr. com/2015/08/tumblr_lzfscqpiqm1rob9suo1_1280. I find it agressive. So I have a hard time thinking he cares more about the aesthetics of his work than about the impression it gives overall. The image centers on a lone figure with impossibly long legs that elevate his head into bleak empty space. This is why I get annoyed when people type guys like David Lynch or David Bowie as ISFP, because NF artists are interested in searching for hidden meanings through abstraction. I guess my final vote for David is INFP. I mean ''hero origin story'', why is that so interesting. building sheds, for real, he was actually building sheds. I think surrealism has more to do with inferior Se than inferior Te and lack of Ti. I've seen that you could delete all the comments on House's page and did a rework on the recent comments section. Anyway, I guess every artistic type can start from some sudden image, but an IN would translate those images in ideas, while an ISFP would just use them for their direct effect (such as an industry based on using people heads to make pencils and other stuff, as opposed to just making pencils form people's heads). q=DAVid+lynch+so+this+is+love&biw=1024&bih=602&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj39OKdx4bNAhXI2xoKHYNeDYAQ_AUICCgD#tbm=isch&q=kurt+cobain+paintings''Part 3:Some other quotes that sounds very INFP: ''I love child things because there's so much mystery when you're a child. Also, butterfly probably want she and Refn to remain the only INFPs on the planet, because it's a match made in heaven or something. Anyway, I know this isn't a convincing argument, so look at his paintings: https://www. Also he can be so erratic at times. I feel lately that this separation in 4 letters is not apropiate in a way, since many of geniuses strenghts seems their ability in being good on aspects that are seen as dichtotomies. Loyal to their peers and to their internal value systems, but not overly concerned with respecting laws and rules if they get in the way of getting something done. Detached and analytical, they excel at finding solutions to practical problems.. Really unpleasant and didn't expect it, yet he started laughing right after that. Also compare his body language to those of INFPs and INFJs. I think it's more important that he's interested in what lies behind the way things appear that is N over S, than Se or Ni aesthetics. He's not your typical reclusive hermit 5w4 such as Scott Walker. Same thing Murakami. In an earlier post Bobnickmad says that he could imagine Lynch as an ISFP if it weren't for Eraserhead, which is pure intuition. That point towards a care for ethics (Fi). That said, I don't think this lack of being very articulated in interviews necessary makes him SP, as INFPs can find verbal expression difficult, NFJ not so much. It deals with subjects that are important to that group, and it attacks authority - which Winding Refn imagines teens like though he can't possible be serious that he thinks he has done this in an appealing way (Ne). I always feel like my friends, relatives, etc. The Dreamer-Aesthete has very developed and personal aesthetic taste, with which through visuals, sounds and moods, they try to bring their reality to life. As such, there still remains a problem with being sure that people like Lynch, Tarkovsky, Oshii are Intuitives, even agreeing that any type can be good with aesthetics: Stanley Kubrick. "reliable, responsible and conscientious. htmlEthics is not restricted to Fi. Personally I feel pretty dissatisfied with MBTI right now, as it's hard to see where projection starts and ends. INTJs are interested in ideas and theories when observing the world.. " - David Lynch. Are you trying to say that INFPs are more shallow than INFJs and ISFPs. Just an anecdote I could never put together about Lynch which I think suddenly makes sense now that I think he's ISFP. I have been thinking more about what you said about being inspired to make the red room after touching a car though, and I'm actually starting to think that's not a very Ne thing. How he moves his hands around, how he enunciates the way he speaks, how he is dressed. A very concrete example is the Scorpion image which is sort of the Drive guy's superhero suit. Consider my mind blown by your superior giftedness. We seem to go in circles with this. (bobnickmad, random fact collect, lol. For example the American small towns depicted in Twin Peaks and Blue Velvet in each their way. Lynch is not going to actually interact that much with the ideas behind it, but he plays with the moods and sensation of this weirdness. He talks about ideas, but he doesn't talk ideas. In comparison, from what I understand Mulholland Drive actually has a "sensible" story that can be solved by reflection and Lynch has even given hints. Body language is an unreliable way to type, but I think Lynch seems strikingly ISFP. It's in the gutter next to some dirt and a rock, and maybe a little twig.
. Like Saint-Exupéry being INFJ and George Orwell being INFP. Yet, when you look at the stuff he does completely without restrictions, like his weird short movies or those things he calls paintings, the Se like aesthetics are lacking. Fi would manifest in a focus about internal feelings of the protagonist or the character of the directors choosing. Also I think the way he talks about ideas in all his quotes, as lightbulb moments you look for, sounds very Ni. It's like something very dark opens up, but rarely. I would be surprised if they were the same type actually. At least, Mulholland Dr. Do they think what story they want to make and than they take or add thinks from the basic premises untill it suits their own artistic sensibilities. Seems like a lot of Se for both an INFJ and an INFP. I feel like I see that more often in other INFPs than INFJs who tend to be more idiosyncratic. I imagine creative SPs being more hands-on material where their sensibilities about the fits in the material based on their sensibilities and modyfying till it all fits to their liking. But Lynch started weird. '' He seems very sensitive to these kind of things, from ruining a relationship because he couldn't stand the smell of cooking food, to cofee and the same meal. What would an artistic, anti-social ISFJ look like. Here you can explore of famous people and fictional characters.. I know it's weird but it's the only think that seems to fit after all this time. For me INFP is Fi-Ne-(Ni)-(Ti)-(Fe)-Si-(Se)-Te. Cause that is just funny. Sit down and take notes. The conversation before was interesting though and you could have found answers there. INFP 5w4 on the other hand I'd be more willing to believe. Sofia Coppola is an INFP wannabe. be/aFbrvPGvA34. To me it feels like self absorbed Se, like De Palma, possessed by his obsessions. To some degree I think it's *really* supposed to be a horror movie for 16 year old girls. and you see the stain of a little and maybe some yellow dirt on it, a little ointment. It's just been scrambled. Could he be an Introverted Sensation type in Jung's conception. Ni dom film directors are almost always accredited creating surreal dream-like pieces of work like Stanley Kubrick, Werner Herzog or Andrei Tarkovsky. INFP, because for him what matters is to infuse life with the quality of dreams, his movies are basically dreams presented in a way that they can be comprehended while not losing their dream quality. Tim Burton = Looks like a sack of potatoes (Tertiary Si) and somewhat gloomy (Fi). Perhaps it's precisely because Lynch only cares about the surface of it that he was able to make it as a surrealist (. Yet his brainyquotes sound (scream) lighthearted but also deep INFP: http://www. But while I can see an ISFP adding strong intuition to his movies (sort of like Blue Velvet), I can't see an ISFP making Eraserhead as a debut film. In the 4 function+2 axis model he could only be ISFP, but I find it as a very unsatisfying model. Just my two cents. I think Winding Refn, in a way, is Lynch up-side down a lot of the time. Or I can be going along and see an old Band-Aid in the street, and you know how an old Band-Aid is. He was living his life the way he wanted, not in touch at all with the real world. Overall, he seems like a really bizzare ISFP, someone expressing himself through sensory language yet really bizzare likes, and with some Ni aura of mysyery his enneagram 4 likes to accentuate (it always felt to me he likes being seen as weird, similar with Manson). :) And nooo, I don't think Lynch is too much weird to be an ISFP. " *cough* Andy Warhol *cough*@bobnickmad: I meant my contrarian, weird typings. I also have been thinking about split fantasies too; I'm sorry if that sounds too abstract. I insist you listen to these MBTI masters and enlighten yourself. Lynch, on the other hand, is very "art for art's sake" and his surrealism is often just plain "take it or leave it" weirdness. And let's do that. He can't be INFJ because he has too much Fi, widely shown in his movies. He is also apparently extremely polite and mature" INFPs are like that when they work with other people, the healthy ones; responsible above all. Plus, when you realize that Mulholland Dr. He would likely be interesting to listen to but I don't see myself chatting easily with him. His obsesion with 'ideas' and 'dreams' is probably a fascination to a 3rd Ni he likes diving in but still feels like weird teritory, his obsesion with Transcendental Mediation is likely a fascination with tertiary Ni. '';''I:How old do you feel emotionally. '' That's an interesting point.