David Lynch Myers-Brigs type - MBTI, enneagram and personality type info
I understand that with Camus or Johny Depp, but Lynch. You are a ISFP who wants everyone to be ISFP or is it just a troll. I'm an 4w5 too and I don't look half as cool as David Lynch. , I liked the idea of having this guy on my INFP but he always weird to me among the others. Honestly, the more interviews I read the more ISFP makes much sense than INFJ. A lot of votes in a few minutes. Also I feel Lynch's depiction of small town life may just as well be a Se thing. Also, in interviews he has this aerian, alien like aura about him that INFx have, and you can't fake this but you can fake 'badass', compare with ISFPs like Coppola, they're more earthy. " You see the same striking, wacky visuals in presumed INFP directors like Tim Burton. I don't claim to have the truth on the matter, but the four function models leads to overtly-convoluted explanations and ignores half of someone's functions. It's amazing that such a visually impressive movie was made with low budget, but Lynch managed it because he got involved with building props and had an instinctive eye for light and shadows. at the core often, like in INFPs. Do they think what story they want to make and than they take or add thinks from the basic premises untill it suits their own artistic sensibilities. I don't think being iresponsible is N tough, as many homeless alcoholics people are there. You are in the best place to test MBTI and learn what type David Lynch likely is!. He's inarticulate both in Feeling (like in the Charlie Rose interview, Charlie Rose is Fe and it's easy to see the awkwardness in that interview) and Intuition, instead he's very good at explaining how sounds and textures or comparing sounds and textures etc. Like there's this thing about innocence and how it can turn to its dark-side in Lynch movies (Blue Velvet, Mulholland: the main characters start as innocent people, yet their curiosity/sensitivity turn to voyeurism+adultery/crime), or people not escaping from their conscious (Lost Highway, Mulholland, is about people escaping their guilty conscious inside their minds yet it all unravels bit by bit from inside) which in itself carries importance, because Fi itself weight those things. When he says that Mikkelsen is an airhead, that's like when I call Shane Carruth lazy or something. If he was INTJ, that would explain his resourcefulness as a J quality, but we seemed to agree on Ti-dom. I'll stop posting here, I promise. and End of Evangelion. 2) A type excells in comunicating their main extroverted functions. I don't see an INFP being that relaxed about their body. If anything, Fi doms appear colder and likely to be "evil" from the outside, while the Fe of INFJs gives a warmer, outwardly kind exterior. butterfly: "We have INFJs as weird as Lars von Trier and Marilyn Manson, who upset people on purpose. building sheds, for real, he was actually building sheds. He movies aren't as deep as some make them out to be, he is very shallow and self obsessed like kurt cobain ( also infp ). It probably just struck him what a weird effect a room covered in this color would have. He enjoys habitual behaviors and routines (like eating the same meal every day for months) that allow him to free his mind to think about other things (Ni+Ti). He's one of the more outgoing fives. ), plus that he puts ideas above everything in interviews, alongside his very subjective, non-Fe personal feeling tones, so Fi+Intuition over sensation would make most sense. Anyway I find #butterfly comment that I don't wanna agree with her weird since I did agreed with Myazaki, Mann and later even Gaiman, and I never managed to sway her not once from what I know, so it's really unfair for her to say that. Isabel Briggs Myers, a researcher and practitioner of Jung’s theory, proposed to see the judging-perceiving relationship as a fourth dichotomy influencing personality type.. ^^ How upset you are may better be explained by Winding Refn having cut the throat of Fe to achieve Fi. He uses some self-preservation to keep safe distance from the world, but also to pratically utilise his visions in interesting ways. It's in the gutter next to some dirt and a rock, and maybe a little twig. Se users might need something like that to concentrate, a specific sensory thing, like Lynch has his chocolate milk because their senses are otherwise so sensitive. ''Putting aside how strange it is, it seems like what is of real interest for David Lynch is feeling tones (Fi). INFJ 5w4 so/sx. The conversation before was interesting though and you could have found answers there. It's pretty obvious is spammed like many entries. I mean, if we look at someone like Bob Dylan or Stanley Kubrick we see that before they got into weirdness they were rather conventional. But Lynch because of X event(s) in his life knows what genuine Ni means and has scared him for life; that Ni is what he's trying to show you in his movies. there are no surprises there' ''. You know there are plenty of people I still think are INFP though. Because Lynch seems very in his own mind. But yes, I have a problem differentiating INFPs from INFJs and ISFPs lately. This reminds me when a school psychology counselor (who was also a philosophy teacher, either INFJ or ISFJ) asked me what I like about me, and I answered ''I can see beauty in everything''. INFJ can also have personal aesthetics, but it wouldn't be so unconventional I think, their feelings tones would still have something of what's appreciated in the culture they live in (Fe), while for Lynch it's individualized and. There are no deep conscious ethical messages with Lynch's work as you would imply. Further proof of how individualized his feeling tones are:''Different paintings would have different sounds. But my general argument about Winding Refn is wackiness (Ne) and earnestness/always-following-his-heart (Fi). #Zeego, It has to do with how people see the world differently, so don't know; World-View Personality Types. I was doing regular goof-ball stuff. A very concrete example is the Scorpion image which is sort of the Drive guy's superhero suit. bobnickmad should refrain from voting and commenting because he has no fucking clue how to differentiate ISFPs from INFPs, and he knows this. I disagree though. For me INFP is Fi-Ne-(Ni)-(Ti)-(Fe)-Si-(Se)-Te. Murakami is unassuming, warm, funny and wise. But anyway, my main arguments are how he started Eraserhead from a bizzare day dream and that his movies aren't 'meaningless' as you seem to take, rather their meaning is more personal. You make me want to change votes for both Lynch and Refn as ISFP. #butterfly won me here, but you can still save yourself. Cooper is not Lynch IMO, as I said before the part of his work that appears INFJ/Ni was co-written. It's just a streak in him. Just because he's not gay doesn't mean he's not an INFP. At the end of the day he is a very visual director (who cares little about meaning, etc. I'd still like to see Bob's opinion on Refn now. Don't you think on the surface, Drive looks very Se. I also have been thinking about split fantasies too; I'm sorry if that sounds too abstract. That point towards a care for ethics (Fi). When asked how he achieved those effects with so litle money he said it's about how things are lighten in front of the camera. For now I think 5w4 fits the best, his main motivation seems to be to present how weird the life is, like there's so much violence and fear and absurd that he retreats into his thoughts and reality starts to blend with dreams and intense visions and a sense of meaninglessness. Because Lynch is an ISFP, he allowed himself to be corrected (Se). I also think what Bobnickmad was saying about INFP vs. "In its place, Lynch presented Eraserhead, which he had developed based on a daydream of a man's head taken to a pencil factory by a small boy. My only addition is the separation into clouded and unclouded function. But photos capture that very well. Sorry about that. Actually, Eraserhead is incredibly Se. )I want to make movies so girls would obsess over me on internet forums. Of course bobnickmad is another peasant like you. I suppose it's possible that David developed his Ni through that as well. That seems very 4 rather than 5, but he still may have a 5 wing. #segovois, there are people here who troll with modified names of original users, please do not delete the original users. He also said he started making films to see his paintings moving. But what confuses me is that I have never seen an ISFP 5w4 before. But I still see The Neon Demon as the assertion of shallow Se, not Ne. Note also that Eraserhead was Stanley Kubrick's (ISTP) favorite film. " That's how an ISFP approaches their creations. q=DAVid+lynch+so+this+is+love&biw=1024&bih=602&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj39OKdx4bNAhXI2xoKHYNeDYAQ_AUICCgD#tbm=isch&q=david+lynch+paintings&imgrc=41kW3ObKDgccSM%3A On a side note, I don't think I'm the only one who sees a similarity between his paintings, and that of Kurt Cobain:''https://www. As for Lynch, I'm still unsure between INFP and INFJ, but I don't really see ISFP in him. Don't how an ISFPs imagination actually works, but if an ISFP can have this kind of instant imagination, I wasted my time beign an INFP. I also have an ISFP friend, and she actually loves everything off-beat. Butterfly wins this one. And when he makes a movie like Inland Empire, shoots it himself with a pd 150 (very poor dv cam), he does not care about the quality of the image that much, but enjoys the freedom to make little movies on his own. sx/sp right there for you. The thing with a guy like Lynch or Kubrick is that they were very practical at the lowest level -cinematography- which helped them great movies with amazing cinematography (2001, Eraserhead) much cheaper than many others would have. Consider my mind blown by your superior giftedness. After thinking I get to some clarity on this, it all failed apart. ''When I ask why he wants to stick to this redundant diet, he tells me that it's 'reassuring. Eraserhead seems to be very much like the works of Kafka, strange, surreal metaphors of his own personal anxieties, mainly that of being a father. I also think that either you are underestimating what an ISFP can do (in terms of starting out with surrealism, etc. Here you can explore of famous people and fictional characters.. David Lynch main insterest is ze mind. Lynch did surrealist paintings before he started the movie, and imo this is what the movie first of all reflects: The film itself is all about interesting visuals and audio design, where I remember the latter being especially praised. I have no clue what "evilish persona" is or what that has to do wtih INFJ. Does it make you horny. He even says something like that Mads Mikkelsen is one of the greatest actors in the world and that he was lucky to work with him. ISFP is Fi-Se-(Si)-(Ti)-(Fe)-Ni-(Ne)-Te, if you're interested in my typing logic. The plane took a long time to cross the sky and the sound it made was very serene. :PWell played Buttefly,but. At least, Mulholland Dr. His surrealism also carries a lot more meaning. I find Refn full of himself and unplesant as a person. So, if Refn can do a movie like Drive and not be ISP, so can Lynch. ""To give a sense of place, to me, is a thrilling thing. And yes, he's INFP. INFJ may be peculiar in their intuition, but their feeling is extraverted, it find itself in other's emotions, it connects with it, and as such is good at explaining itself to someone else. regimented tertiary Si. Like Kubrick or Lynch, and probably the greatest of movie-makers seems to have succeded because they have both strong S and N characteristics: S because they're good at the lowest levels -light, sound, texture, interior design etc. And so the details are incredibly important. The way he puts out his emotions lacks the subtlety of an INFP IMO. Like I imagine a SP musician jamming based on some old patterbs and ending up with something sounding completely new from there. Anyway, SP=/=regimented routine. Fi would manifest in a focus about internal feelings of the protagonist or the character of the directors choosing. I imagine creative SPs being more hands-on material where their sensibilities about the fits in the material based on their sensibilities and modyfying till it all fits to their liking. How he moves his hands around, how he enunciates the way he speaks, how he is dressed. I feel like it’s hard to know what to type him in Jung. David Lynch: "I always say, it's like there's a man in another room with the whole film together, but they're in puzzle parts. Yet, I still finds his ideas too weird and non-linear for an ISFP ( a kid growing a benevolent grandmother from a seed. Intuitives focus on a more abstract level of thinking; they are more interested in theories, patterns, and explanations. They are often more concerned with the future than the present and are often described as creative. I can imagine an ISFP going down in the direction that they sort of decide to make their art about this type of amusement. It's just been scrambled. His main ability lies in knowing how particular sensations feel like, not articulating abstract ideas or relatable emotions. Him being an INFP has access to Ni in 6th place, so it's strong (theory) but it's not natural to him. Next discussion topic, do you guys think it would be evil for me to actively try to break up Winding Refn's marriage or do I need to just patiently wait :(Well, to be fair - in my last post I was arguing that the elements of Neon Demon that thedude calls "sick Se" or something is in fact general Fi. If you were to see a photograph of that not knowing what it was, it would be unbelievably beautiful. *A true bunch of mental masturbators. But also in his art, such as enjoying to sleep on the sets of Eraserhead or saying he wants to bite his pictures. I've also read before about his concern about the bad stuff he shows in his movies. It feels superficial (and it is asserted) to me. Tim Burton = Looks like a sack of potatoes (Tertiary Si) and somewhat gloomy (Fi). And apparently he forms many of his 'ideas' from sounds. Yet his brainyquotes sound (scream) lighthearted but also deep INFP: http://www. Then again you'd have to look at the suject matter of his work. Yeah, you forgot one essential aspect discussed below: his love for routine. Another argument: Note that Lynch is famous for weird stuff, like peeing on set in front of everyone (not kidding). As I understand, Se users can get very angry and scary suddenly, and just as suddenly cool down, while Si users come of as less scary in the moment but takes them more time to cool off, as if Si users are a storm passing by while Se users are a thunder. http://afistfulofculture. Later Hopper found out what helium does to your voice and he regretted his suggestion. Anyway, I know this isn't a convincing argument, so look at his paintings: https://www. ISFP can use Ni, but it's decorative (like with Klimt), Mulholland Dr. @butterfly: every typology genius know ISFPs are very plain, have simple ideas and use easy words. Lynch is basically the Feeler version of Kubrick. Like I said, less inconsistency as possible provided we make the person justice, and Kubrick is that inconsistency here. t=4m36s And I'm definitely not saying any INFP is going to like Nicolas Winding Refn movies nor necessarily trying to convince you of his work's qualities, I'm just trying to point to some of things I think are going on in the movie, suggestive of his particular INFP-ness. He has inferior sensing as he's not really the type to cook or clean for himself. He can't write or think without it. I saw Van Gogh in the INFP heaven. This is way too funny. It strives to discover the essence of things and fill in the missing pieces of a puzzle. Okay, so I've finally taken the time to take a careful look at David Lynch, and I come out absolutely convinced that he is an ISFP. INFPs create Ni through strong Fi+Ne fueled by Si (theory, don't quote me). I can't imagine Se-Ni jumping connections like that: warm car -- surrealist roim, with only the color red in common. I guess I'm gifted. The Dreamer-Aesthete has very developed and personal aesthetic taste, with which through visuals, sounds and moods, they try to bring their reality to life. I can't explain other diets he has though. At first glance, the movie looks positively wacky. There will also be sporadic, Ni-like mysteriousness though, and of course moral concerns, authenticity etc. The first is very Ni, convergent, while the second is a puzzle. ) are obsessed with the idea of murder and ethics. I think if Lynch was INFP would had been like, "Who cares. It's the poses and everything. Sofia Coppola is an INFP wannabe. https://youtu. Yeah, INFP spamming. Could he be an Introverted Sensation type in Jung's conception. Couldn't there theoretically be ISFJs like this. Unlike his movies, the sensuality is taken out from there, instead they are unsettling on a visceral level, in a way that suggest an unhealthy low Si to me (Si being interiorized sensation, opposed to extroverted one). The lack of coeherence in surreal pieces of work is not a lack of coherence in logical judegment but a lack of coherency in depicting physical reality. It actually seems like Ti that he represses the most. jpg It's like Winding Refn has been going, "Let's do that. I guess Se users can be obsessive too, but over Se-ish things like sport or martial arts, but just randomly spouting fact about personal interests at people that don't want to hear it, it's kinda tertiary Si, no. And let's do that. Anyway, I'm trying to develop my own personal ''system'', based on MBTI but not tied to the functions (except the dominant and inferior). I guess my final vote for David is INFP. I personally have things like that quite often. Every person’s preference can be found on a spectrum, so just choose the letter you identify with most.. Everyone=ISFP is doing the Lord's work here. Like for example Blue Velvet, come from the image of an ear in the grass, then he heard one of the song that is played the movies, and all kinds of images that eventually set the overall mood. Not saying ISxP can't be intuitive creators as well though. We think we understand the rules when we become adults but what we really experienced is a narrowing of the imagination. He's not a 5, and he's not sx/sp in my view. Like George Lucas using old movies or many ISFP writers hiding twisted version of biographical stuff in their stories. DL:It's like a negative image of my childhood. Also it's obviously an ongoing joke between Mikkelsen and Winding Refn which the interviewer is consciously referring to with his choice of words. He obsessively chews Juicy Fruit bubblegum. It's certainly not usual, but his weirdness is always on the surface level. I don't think that would work though. Does it make you want to punch someone in the face. For the record, I love his work prior to Drive. About how his inspiration works: before making Eraserhead he wanted to make "Gardenback was a surrealist script about adultery which featured a continually growing insect representing one's man's lust for his neighbor. Supposedly Agent Cooper is based on Lynch himself and he is quite clearly an INFJ and that is what the crowd here unanimously says too. He's close to Robert Altman in a way, and I now think the part of his work which seems Ni was actually co-written. #Zeego, Yeah, I also know this, the thing is with the hands-on approach and resoursfulness a director like Lynch or Kubrick need to have. And I guess is because I can't see myself having a fluent conversation with this guy. Another argument: Google "Nicolas Winding Refn" or "Tim Burton", and google "David Lynch". Basically it's just a very strange and (at least to me it seems) earnest pop-culture weirdness artifact with no compromises for almost no one. ''This goes Lynch is a notorious creature of habit: he spent seven years drinking the same chocolate milkshake at the same time every day from Bob’s Big Boy in L. Like I was in school, and I saw this piece of metal in my mind there appeared this full image of a grey alien ocean, with black towers that were populated by unseen organism, and there were this red dots floating around, and all this, the ocean, the towers seemed organic. Between 9 and 17 most of the time, and sometimes around six. (As evidence of his poor capacity to explain the emotions in his movies or the ideas in it, but his varied impressions of sensorial impressions he collects) #idlebody, If you want to type every interesting person as a Ni-dom, fine. Btw, I wonder if Butterfly started looking for paintings that could have influenced Eraserhead. or from some kind of mixing of ideas. If you enjoyed this entry, find out about the personality types of Acting and Movie Industry characters list.. We i'll have time, i'll fix itSite admin visited us today and deleted the Gregory House page. I also get the impression he likes his 'paintings' for the materials he uses to make them more than anything, and they're Francis Bacon worship anyway. " So Se+Ni it's unbearable. is what happens when one watches Sunset Boulevard and Persona several times in his life, its no longer such a mysterious movie, albeit a masterfully executed one in terms of atmosphere. What I found he has an aptitude for, is explaining textures and sensations from other sensory elements, yet he's still the world strangest ISFP: he's fascinated by the textures of ducks, hairless rats, band aids (. Anyway, the main thing with a system like MBTI is to eliminate inconsistencies or convoluted explanations, as long as it does the person typed justice. He was living his life the way he wanted, not in touch at all with the real world. The simple fact that it took 8 years for him to make eraserhead, not to mention is laziness is just so un-SP. don't really know me, but with that single insight I feel like you have looked directly into my soul. INFPs are aesthete that try to break the conventions of reality through imagination. jpg https://projectedperspectives. Does it make you want to dance. I know it's weird but it's the only think that seems to fit after all this time. I went to see The Neon Demon with my INFP friend, and she was disgusted and impressed at how bad she thought the film was, so that's not an INFP thing as you would like to see it, but just your own take on Refn. In comparison, from what I understand Mulholland Drive actually has a "sensible" story that can be solved by reflection and Lynch has even given hints. We have such different way of comunicating things, I would like to go from one point to anothet and put high ideas in simple terms (Ne) maybe referencincing how I feel inside(Fi-Se), he would stay in place but combine oddly specific impresions with mysterious expressions (Se-Ni). Gifted people are difficult to type. Dreamer I associate most with INFP, and Aesthete with ISFP, so I vote him INFP overall. An airplane splutters by his head pumping smoke into the night sky; can you talk a bit about this piece. That last comment of you makes me think a lot already about INFPs in general. That said, I don't think this lack of being very articulated in interviews necessary makes him SP, as INFPs can find verbal expression difficult, NFJ not so much. com/quotes/authors/d/david_lynch. CelebrityTypes thinks he is INFP, this place thinks he is INFJ, but actually he is ISFP. ISFP anger fits with Winding Refn who is more someone who looks like he is about to blow up at any moment than genuinely, naturally aggressive. His Ne is strong too. In this site you can find out which of the 16 types this character 'David Lynch' belongs to!. Lynch's work tends to forgo logical cohesiveness to give impressions, which seems like Fe suppressed Ti. I don't expect a Ne user to talk about his movie means, but rather to talk about various things starting from the movie, yet Lynch just dwelves in this mystical cliches. Does this make any sense. He seems more focused on the sensations that ideas produce rather than ideas themselves. Butterfly what is your problem. Or maybe he has some interesting points to make, but it ruins it with cheap shock value, sort of like Marlyin Manson. And so the sound and music and color and shape and texture, if all those things are correct and a woman looks a certain way with a certain kind of light and says the right word, you're gone, you're in heaven. On the other hand I can imagine an ISFP. Where are the ideas. Because the meaning, it's a very personal thing, and the meaning for me is different than the meaning for somebody else. Murakami, whether he is INFP or INFJ, is heavily concerned with society and community even when he tells us not to care. If Lynch is ISFP I guess there would have to be some kind of art style of type of painting that he is building on, even when making movies. I find it uber suspicious that INFJ is winning here looooool''pretentious movie director and Danish movie industry culture (note Lars von Trier's douchy Fe) '' Something's rotten in Denmark indeed. thecityofabsurdity. In reality that sky would've been blue and Technicolor and the plane would've been a large military plane that made a droning sound. David Lynch is absolutely NO sack of potatoes INFP. Just an anecdote I could never put together about Lynch which I think suddenly makes sense now that I think he's ISFP. He mostly doesn't go into philosopical generalties and when he does he explains it in a mysterious way, like the fact that a script is made from ideas sounds like a religious thing from him. :PTo explain the Dennis Hopper thing more closely: Lynch basically allowed himself to be corrected for realism (Se). The evil hiding just under the surface sounds Se+Ni to me above all. Lynch, on the other hand, is very "art for art's sake" and his surrealism is often just plain "take it or leave it" weirdness. I think he's just one of those people who's hard to type and has a lot of highly-developed functions. < Also just in general the way he phrases himself, being a sack of potatoes, etc. He also said that his movies aren't about a social message, which seems odd for an NFJ. I started watching from about 16 minutes in and I didn't see any insults. I think Miyazaki and Mann are pretty uncontroversial, lol. Does it make you want to laugh or cry. Even if not directly tested, public voting can provide good accuracy regarding David Lynch Myers-Briggs and personality type!. Omg, bobnickmad. I can NOT see him as an Fe-dom though. Don't have much to say about Refn. It's an image. He also lacks the intensity of an sx in person. The image centers on a lone figure with impossibly long legs that elevate his head into bleak empty space. So, if we would type them best what they excel at, Lynch would be S-N-F while Kubrick S-N-T, which makes them better justice than typing them S or N. That and I also see a more conventional Si aspect to him, in his idealization of small town life and comparing it to the ''corruption'' he later found. Dreamers are people for which imagination and dreams have more appeal than simple every-day life, they have the feeling that another world, more exciting exists somewhere beneath the reality of this world and the mind can bring it to life. Fe would be more broad and would depict the issues between people; like a drama. I still can't explain the Eraserhead thing but I came to agree on ISFP on 3 main motives from reading writen interviews and stuff: 1) He was very hands on, 'artisan' (SP) with making Eraserhead. Wouldn't Si be more nostalgic about it. Overall, I think he's far too erratic to be INFJ. They're not at all interested in concrete ideas. I just wanted to say that there's a stronger case for ISFP like Butterfly made than some people seem to believe, it's my second choice after INFP, far above INFJ right now. Sit down and take notes. And a sense of place is made up of details. Lynch is ISFP and Butterfly will teach you why. An ISFP would be an aesthete dedicated to reality. q=david+lynch+paintings&biw=1024&bih=602&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjw0tSJs6zNAhXMtBQKHd-MBkMQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=WsjGtOi-ao0fTM%3A Where is Se in there. And let's do that and that and that. Think about it this way: What was it really that he imagined. Basically, since Ni is usually clouded by Ne, it tends to not show at the surface of most INFPs, but is actually an important part of their psyche, it's just its domain is limited and put to serve Ne. It's more the lack of Se aesthetic in his more personal projects ('paintings' or short movies) that makes it clear for me. And he is not sx/sp. I think they makes INFJ very clear. Only talking about his persona again. Why not Extraverted Sensation instead of Introverted Sensation. and you see the stain of a little and maybe some yellow dirt on it, a little ointment. Read his autobio, it's all about "fishing" ideas, nothing concrete in there. Anyway, ISFP David Lynch got me thinking. He can't be ISFP because his movies are too complex. Don't take my picture though. I mean ''hero origin story'', why is that so interesting. He would likely be interesting to listen to but I don't see myself chatting easily with him. He is making the person in that interview uncomfortable, lol. I saw a video behind the scenes of his movie Inland Empire, and there was a moment where he got really angry at someone not doing something right, and he was quite scary. Mark Frost was the brain of Twin Peaks (He wrote, directed and produced on his own the last episodes of the first season of the show because Lynch left to do Wild at Heart, and they are amazing), Lost Highway was co-written by Barry Gifford. 000 cycle piercing sound, She Wasn't Fooling Anyone, She Was Hurt Bad would be an extremely slow motion, muffled breaking glass sound. @bobnickmad Hmm, yeah David's a confusing guy. Intuitive FFFFF FFFFF SSSSSSSSSSSSSSeriously though, why do we keep coming back to this "tertiary Ni" idea when we keep invalidating the theory of function stacks over and over. Of course that's not really true, but the point I was trying to make is very similar to how Lynch sees the world I think. But what do we make of Kubrick. It's pretty cliched stuff. In a way it's good Lynch would rather not talk about that stuff. Other Dreamer-Aesthetes include Tim Burton, Charles Baudelaire and Hideaki Anno. Not saying Lynch is ISFJ, but it got me thinking. Se sort of seems to be where he is at home. Finally, it's not just Lynch's hair. “Sensations that ideas produce” could be used to convolutedly argue for Jung’s Ne type because it would be like repression of all normal sensations so only idea based ones can be felt and the rush of expanding towards ideas can be followed. I agree with everything Bob said. You could turn it around and say taking 8 years is evidence of his perseverance, suggesting SP. But Lynch doesn't have that. His look is 4w5, not Se, definitely not bad-ass. He's also slightly out of balance (Inferior Te) - though I think a lot of that is also a sort of Ne-based impression of a pretentious movie director and Danish movie industry culture (note Lars von Trier's douchy Fe) -- and he is a sack of potatoes (Si). His films are full of abstractions and "strangeness" that pervade any sense of realism, and in interviews he always seems like a head-in-the-clouds type. @fuckboy: "hello to" is always right though, so you must listen. So Lynch simply changed it another gas. INFP, because for him what matters is to infuse life with the quality of dreams, his movies are basically dreams presented in a way that they can be comprehended while not losing their dream quality. Similar with Kubrick with conventional movies like The Kill before going 2001 and stuff. Like when I'm reading some really abstract book or when I was studying philosophy, she had me tell her about it, being the only really patient Sensor listener of my friends on this subject, and she was always awfully amused by it. I find it agressive. I monitor my internal moods (Fi-Si) but he seems to have an usual high range of descriptions for sounds, tactile and visual sensations. Ni dom film directors are almost always accredited creating surreal dream-like pieces of work like Stanley Kubrick, Werner Herzog or Andrei Tarkovsky. I think that's a very technical, minor point to topple my otherwise successful line of reasoning. '' He seems very sensitive to these kind of things, from ruining a relationship because he couldn't stand the smell of cooking food, to cofee and the same meal. I wonder if it would hurt Bobnickmad to admit I'm right at least ~once in a while~ about my weird typings. "In fact, there were two Dale Coopers. I also realized that in order to remain consistent to my system, I have to change Van Gogh to an ISFP (aesthete-dreamer). But the meaning of the red room doesn't really matter much to Lynch, I think. So I have a hard time thinking he cares more about the aesthetics of his work than about the impression it gives overall. I didn't think of it. An xNFJ or xNFP is more interested in hidden meanings, their approach is more "This has a personal meaning for me, I want others to interpret this in their own way to find their own meaning". David Lynch is somewhat imposing and strange. ISFP valuing Ni, after all the interviews I read and watched with him. And in Enneagram land, something that isn't 5. But Lynch started weird. I insist you listen to these MBTI masters and enlighten yourself. com/2015/08/tumblr_lzfscqpiqm1rob9suo1_1280. And after Eraserhead he is a picture of 6w5 to me. I think an INFP or INFJ as fulfilled as Lynch would be a bit more intellectually, intuitively sophisticated. INFP 5w4 on the other hand I'd be more willing to believe. In an earlier post Bobnickmad says that he could imagine Lynch as an ISFP if it weren't for Eraserhead, which is pure intuition. :) Anyway, you have actually swayed me. Are you trying to say that INFPs are more shallow than INFJs and ISFPs. I could see him as a very disturbed Fi dom with backfiring Te. be/aFbrvPGvA34. I think a lot about Winding Refn's strangeness can be explained by him being an INFP with dyslexia, which forces him to get out in the world and express himself physically. So there's a strong message behind. It deals with subjects that are important to that group, and it attacks authority - which Winding Refn imagines teens like though he can't possible be serious that he thinks he has done this in an appealing way (Ne). Also, if you go on David Lynch's twitter and if you replace "Dear Twitter Friends" with "Diane", you'll realize that his Twin Peaks character Dale Cooper is essentially based on himself. I just discovered why Lynch makes those quick and strange gestures with one hand when he's talking; he's trying to explain the dark and unexplainable (genuine Ni). Body language is an unreliable way to type, but I think Lynch seems strikingly ISFP. was a very human story, masterfully executed, and the weirdness actually gave weight to the characters drama. He has ideas which look like images rather than images that look like ideas, if that makes any sense. Coming back to him, while in my system he's one of the more ''intuitive'' types: Dreamer-Aesthete, I think in the 4 function model he's still more Fi-Se-Ni-Te than Fi-Ne-Si-Te. And at first it's very abstract and I don't have a clue. But he's comSurrealism = Absurd, random, quirky, wild kind of intuition (Ne) + lack of logical coherence (not Ti) = xNFP. Discover Array, and more, famous people, fictional characters and celebrities here!. v=I7xhdtq9N90. To me, as an INFP, I've always kind of felt unsatisfied with Lynch (except Twin Peaks which is co-written) because I want the weirdness to go somewhere, but it never does. Compare to for example the aesthetic of, yes, Winding Refn-sama's Drive. They can deal with escapism, questioning whether one can escape in the fantasy in their mind from the banality of the world, such works that deal with this include Mulholland Dr. You are a ISFP who wants everyone to be ISFP or is it just a troll. The boy-scout one with a character-defining fondness for 'damn fine coffee' and cherry pie – who Lynch's ex-wife Mary Sweeney recently told me is based on Lynch himself – was still imprisoned in the Black Lodge, where he was in conversation with, among others, a talking tree and a soon-to-be-abducted-again Palmer ('I am dead, yet I live,' she uttered). He says he separates movies and family. It's like something very dark opens up, but rarely. *things, patterns, song lyricsDoes anybody knows how an ISFPs artistic process works like. Seems to have pretty low social instinct for a film director. DL:''Inspiration is like a piece of fuzz – it kind of comes up and makes a desire and an image that causes me to want to paint it. Introverted intuition typically creates a unique vision and arrives at unique insights about things, phenomena, or people. In an INFP that's into visual arts, Ni is more useful so it can be more obvious than a INFP who's not into visual arts. Anyway, I guess IxFP pr INFJ. The collective consciousness (social instinct) is very important to him. Anyway, the thing that is very clear is that his infj-ness is only on surface level. I see it too clearly. Sort of like the movie Stalker by Tarkovsky, for the most it's just footage of dirty water and industrial decay, but it's filmed with such an unique sensitivity that it makes more than all the symbolism in the world.
. I feel lately that this separation in 4 letters is not apropiate in a way, since many of geniuses strenghts seems their ability in being good on aspects that are seen as dichtotomies. Bob Dylan was just a folk-singer with really plain simple lyrics with no intention of being original, then I realized he had to become his own person, read lots of books and somehow this lead to Desolation Row. #life goalYou can wait. Overall, he seems like a really bizzare ISFP, someone expressing himself through sensory language yet really bizzare likes, and with some Ni aura of mysyery his enneagram 4 likes to accentuate (it always felt to me he likes being seen as weird, similar with Manson). He'd totally be N in MBTI but the concept of the Si type seems to fit him pretty well. As for The Neon Demon, it's one of my favorite experiences of 2016, movies and not. @Kami-samaaa: If you read lots of my posts, I definitely don't claim everyone is an ISFP. The difference between this movie and Mullholand Drive (Lynch alone) may be the answer. ''Self-Pres Fours are particularly sensitive to comfort issues—the temperature of a room, the quality of the lighting, the humidity or lack of it, the weather—all produce powerful emotional responses. Free in-depth and practical information on the 16 personality types, including careers and relationships.. '' That's an interesting point. Does this means delete all the discussion here as well. At the same time, Lynch doesn't explain things in a very Ne way, I mean he talks ABOUT ideas, rather than talking ideas. I would like to know who you are as you have stronger powers. :) And nooo, I don't think Lynch is too much weird to be an ISFP. "I try to keep things very divided". In a way, it would be more easy to see him as an ISFP than an INFJ. Laura Harring also said he has a very visual way of explaining things, or another actor about how he gives instructions like "you have a plastic bag on your face" to explain what he wants from him. Only watched Drive, which I really liked for being a simple story executed in a careful way with superb visuals. It takes superficial beauty so far that at the end, it's has become something gruesome and disgusting. ) or I am overestimating what an ISFP can do. Finally, take a look at this interview. And also like I'm trying to see all the "important movies", going through lists of books, etc. Of course, for a long movie like Blue Velvet or Mulholland Dr. Mark Frost could very well be INTJ. Ni is the most difficult part to talk about; theories of strong Ni in INFPs. Also notice how he's constantly talking about his family and analyzing which actors he relates to and doesn't, basically like me and bobnickmad are constantly doing on this site, lol. htmlMusing on Lynch,Part 1: #randomguy:''Many of his explanation is more of a personal impression based on sensory experience which suggests Fi and Si. He's not your typical reclusive hermit 5w4 such as Scott Walker. Actually just read Debaser's comments at the bottom of the page.
. It's better not to know so much about what things mean. Thinking – Feeling, represents how a person processes information. Thinking means that a person makes a decision mainly through logic.. Intuitive types frequently will have complex visions or perspectives that they are unable to explain with clarity to others. I, for one, am actually INFP myself. Meanwhile it's makes no sense with a SP. v=fL0Ij89xazA It's basically a Se performance. it all points towards INFP imo, though opposite to Lynch one could perhaps say mundanely he is an I-S-F-P. Apparently that's all he did and left. The weirdness is its own statement (Se+Ni). Very much like Kubrick, he was a true 'artisan' , not just someone with ideas, his later movies were more expensive yet less ambitious because he lacked time and control. FJ are verbally emotionally articulated (not this guy), NP are good at putting complex ideas in simple terms, not really him either. Or his weird mini movies, like The Alphabet which seem pure abstractions. Yet, when you look at the stuff he does completely without restrictions, like his weird short movies or those things he calls paintings, the Se like aesthetics are lacking. There's not much to the movie in terms of themes or stuff, it's just a very simple story but it looks gorgeous, with an excellent eye for visuals, sound and atmosphere, as you can find in Blue Velvet or Mulholland Dr. The similarity is easy explained by both Lynch and Murakami being Ne-Si INFPs, not ISFP and INFJ. So my vote is for 4w5 sp/sx. We seem to go in circles with this. Butterfly what is your problem. I can't put all my thoughts here because I don't like to write too much. He wouldn't kill a fly. There is all the weird colors, interesting details in the background, etc. Now I see 6 votes, but there were more earlier. jpg http://somamagazine. I tought this was bizzare Si but he's weirdly specific about how things feel to him, in a way that I'm just not. Dennis Hopper, who didn't know what helium did to your voice, asked Lynch why he would be breathing helium when other gasses make you feel a lot better. But a movie script seems more complex than that. When I make up wacky stuff, at least, that's how it works. I think that after The Neon Demon, he's done with her. Plus, when you realize that Mulholland Dr. Also I've actually heard something similar about writer Karl Ove Knausgård (ISFP). David Lynch = Surrealism. I only liked some of his movies, instead of liking them all and being a big fan like other mbti types. There's a cameo he did in Twin Peaks where he talks about cofee and he seems more outer-wordly than Copper himself who's INFJ, and he just plays himself. But to me he has lived dark, strong and genuine Ni, which he shows in his movies but he's not comfortable with that because he's an INFP after all. '';''I:How old do you feel emotionally. Looking at this painting and comparing it to Winding Refn-sama's style, I still feel that Lynch could very well be Se. deals with how dreams are formed in the last part and Eraserhead is all N in aesthetic. He seems pretty Ni in the internal imagery and imagination sense and I think he should be some N (he’s not trying to communicate only the extremity of a sensation. Read his quotes on brainyquote; it screams INFP 4w5. Ok, who the hell wrote Delete in the title. About Mikkelsen "it's like speaking to an airhead". I do agree that there are some ISFP-ish thing to him, but he wouldn't be the first INFP with an appreciation for visuals or sound. In the 4 function+2 axis model he could only be ISFP, but I find it as a very unsatisfying model. I also changed to 4w5 sp/sx. If they're wrong, then it throws you out of the mood. I'm quite puzzled by the loss of quality in discussion on this site. There's an interview with Charlie Rose about Straight Story, and he really struggles to explain what is that attracted him to the story. As for Lynch and Murakami; I think they are incredibly different. But Lynch talks only about ideas and how thet attract each other. He's similar with Bob Dylan and Chino Moreno from Deftones in the sense that sensorial impression suggests surrealistic images but those images are valued for their quality as images and not much more. Butterfly is giving everyone a nice good lesson. Lost Highway was written with Barry Gifford and what inspired Lynch with OJ is not ethics at all, it's the state fugue, how a man can escape in fantasies refusing to accept his crime. His father and brother had to come to him and tell him to get a job because he had to support his wife and newly born daughter. Taking this into account, and the fact that ISFPs are statistically a lot more common than INFJs, INFPs and INTJs, it shouldn't come as a surprise that many "deep" and unusual artists are in fact ISFPs. I haven't seen any works of Lynch but I wouldn't necessarily associate his works with surrealism with him being INFP or INFJ. What would an artistic, anti-social ISFJ look like. He even seems weirder alongside actual ISFPs though. As such, there still remains a problem with being sure that people like Lynch, Tarkovsky, Oshii are Intuitives, even agreeing that any type can be good with aesthetics: Stanley Kubrick. The way he dreamed up the ending of Blue Velvet is also pretty intuitive. Lynch is not going to actually interact that much with the ideas behind it, but he plays with the moods and sensation of this weirdness. ) But I guess he doesn’t seem like the typical Ni type in what he focuses on either. I feel like I see that more often in other INFPs than INFJs who tend to be more idiosyncratic. " *cough* Andy Warhol *cough*@bobnickmad: I meant my contrarian, weird typings. Eraserhead, the final of Twin peaks improvised, the ending sequence of Blue Velvet dreamed the day before the shooting, the chaotic Inland Empire. Also I think the way he talks about ideas in all his quotes, as lightbulb moments you look for, sounds very Ni. When confused between ISFP and INFP, always look for signs on "sack of potatoes" - Works 100%. This guy is what I call a ''Dreamer-Aesthete''. Another thing is that few ISFPs are interested in MBTI, or very good at it, and can thus defend themselves. For example the American small towns depicted in Twin Peaks and Blue Velvet in each their way. Huh, these are good points. To some degree I think it's *really* supposed to be a horror movie for 16 year old girls. Bless you :)Your last two arguments sealed the deal. He can pinpoint the sounds he wants in movies in such peculiar yet to him specific ways. And IMO, by comparison, those things of alleged depth Refn says seem pretty shallow and empty intellectualism, probably because he's such a self-centered individual. Don't you feel he's too much weird all the time to be ISFP tough. Nicholas Winding Refn = Looks like a sack of potatoes (Tertiary Si), might have a playful smile (Ne). The darkness is realizations about the world and human nature and my own nature all combined into one ball of sludge. He actually seems unusually INFP at the place you pointed me to. It's something sensory (Se) that in a lightbulb moment perhaps (Ni) leads to something else sensory. He's a clear self-preserving 4w5. I've seen that you could delete all the comments on House's page and did a rework on the recent comments section. He can't be INFJ because he has too much Fi, widely shown in his movies. His obsesion with 'ideas' and 'dreams' is probably a fascination to a 3rd Ni he likes diving in but still feels like weird teritory, his obsesion with Transcendental Mediation is likely a fascination with tertiary Ni. It's going to be so weird and awesome. " (Ne) Personally I'm sad whenever I think of that, because I think it would had been so cool. Lynch is also a musician (Se) and an artist (Se) in addition to directing movies primarily known for being visually interesting (Se). His enneatype is hard to tell, he's very 4w5 and very 5w4 and sometimes very 9w1 when he talks about world peace and stuff. Than again there are ISP musicians that compose sobg lyrics or music in their mind first. He lacks the intensity of an sx/sp. He would have that Ni to create said surreal piece of work. I always feel like my friends, relatives, etc. We have INFJs as weird as Lars von Trier and Marilyn Manson, who upset people on purpose. I'm a 495 trytipe which is consider very imaginative, Lynch is probably 459 or something, but I can't imagine the trytipe making someone's daydreams so surreal without a clear preference for Intuition over Sensation. Self-Pres Fours become frustrated that the environment is insufficiently attuned to their personal needs. David Lynch = Badass motherfucker (Se). Or a butterfly. Of course, I'm not saying INFPs can't be scary in a lower Te moment, but I think INFP would be more of an ''I think he might break down'' type of anger, while he had this very casual but also very imposing kind of anger. Butterfly is way too lazy for something like that. (bobnickmad, random fact collect, lol. Also, while filming Eraserhead he enjoyed. Someone is spamming. He knows how to look cool and nearly always pulls of some kind of self-conscious elegant pose, just like Camus or Knausgård (alleged ISFPs). You people should open your minds a little more. The anecdote went something like that. " - David Lynch. Also this quote by him strikes me as very INFx: "It makes me uncomfortable to talk about meanings and things. *unusual high range, 3) Related to 2. ''There also seems to be a Fi-Si thing going one with his weird imagery, talking about a painting: ''Interviewer:One of your recent paintings, "So This Is Love", seems to take a fairly dark view of love. It generally helps INFP them unify their subjective Fi impressions into some world-view and visualize their dream-worlds. The whole movie is intuition from start to finish. Apparently, in Blue Velvet, Lynch wanted Dennis Hopper to breathe in helium when he calls for his mommy and whatever in those really weird scenes. Meanwhile, ISTPs like Kubrick deal with some of the logical implications the story, another type would pass over, because Ti itself weight those things. Btw #butterfly, do you think being nerdy like that on a specific topic is a sign of tertiary Si. For an INFJ not to have developed his Ti enough to interpret his own works, it would mean his Fe would be very developed but that's not the case, he's not very emotionally articulate, and if FJs are one thing, it's emotionally articulate. I mean, you could claim that by letters he's I-N-F-P, but he seems more in touch with Se than Ne. In this interview you can also see he's philosophical on a very wide range of subjects, while an ISFP would be philosophical in a more restricted way I'd say:http://www. It's actually a bad example, as many INFJ writers (Dostoievski, Mishima etc. I don't find that much depth in the things Butterfly say about Refn. All that feels more Ne. I've heard things to that effect, but I don't really know his influences or paintings well enough to tell if it's a Extraverted Sensing-like relationship he has to them. Since INFP seems completely off to me, and I don't think he is INFJ, I'm prone to concluding that you are underestimating, lol. He's about sensory impressions and what he feels about them, with a strong but inarticulate interest in Ni. , you need a more conventional, Se like aesthetic, but I don't think INFPs lack in aesthetics sensibilities department either. I don't think it makes sense to type Lynch as an S simply because he's good with aesthetics. I could become a better actor than david lynch and win an oscar award I am the best actor their is#idlebody. I find it strange to think of him as INFP being me one. Sorry those who trusted me. Over and over he makes the same mistake; get a job already. The metaphor about fatherhood is actually pretty banal (Tertiary Ni). ) in Hollywood. Look, only because I type this people ISP, it doesn't mean their movie aren't meaningful. Isn't Kubrick way too similar with these people to say he's S but the other N. ''It's a feeling that the story gives'' but really not good at making that feeling understood. But it's very idea-based - "doing a realistic superhero origin story". " So you can see the weird stuff in his movie is not meaningless like you seem to imply. For example in portraying what it feels like to encounter a foreign culture, he created some very bizarre images (Valhalla Rising), and in trying to convey frustration at going too far about superficial beauty, he creates some really horrific, fascinating images (Neon Demon), etc. @bobnickmad: sorry that was my fault. v=Fxr-7O1Bfxg"Introverted intuition reflects on patterns, relationships, symbols, meanings, and perspectives on matters from complex phenomena to magical connections to practical problems. For example in Neon Demon different character function as metaphors for different powers in the beauty industry. Maybe someone we think is INFP or something out there is actually a dark ISFJ. " So from day-dreams he takes his inspiration, daydreadms which seem way too weird for a non N type. I have been thinking more about what you said about being inspired to make the red room after touching a car though, and I'm actually starting to think that's not a very Ne thing. Seems like a lot of Se for both an INFJ and an INFP. Same thing Murakami. In fact why do you need different types for them when they're so similar in the first place. Robert Crumb is sx/sp; look at the man and then his work, do they match. Just like Speed Gavroche posted on the french side he values comfort, peace of mind and tranquility way too much to be sx/sp. Murakami and David Lynch are also very different in person. I also think Drive is not the best comparison as he's playing with a very specific type of film (though I definitely there is some heavy intuition stuff going on with the hero origin story it's supposed to be), but if you look at more Lynchian movies like Neon Demon and Valhalla Rising, I definitely think Winding Refn-sama is more purpose-laden and conscious of what things are supposed to mean and do, and how he is developing them (Ne+Te) rather than the "take it or leave it" way I feel Lynch does it. Personally I feel pretty dissatisfied with MBTI right now, as it's hard to see where projection starts and ends. In fact Blue Velvet's plot seems mainly driven by ideas who's values serves in settingba mood (songs, ears, ants, clothes etc. I didn't know I'd actually swayed you with Gaiman. ISFPs however abstract they can be are more grounded than that. Lynch doesn't have that evilish streak INFJs show sometimes, among other things I've thought about him. There's also the quote I posted about how one of his paintings is a serene image of his childhood but ''darkness has crept in''. Fi-dominance and Ti-dominance in itself deals with either value judgements or story logic, which is enough to gave a movie ''meaning'', even when it's not explored in a Ne way. I:This is a pleasant memory for you, yet you've translated it into a dark image; why. I guess, by comparison ISPs are more focused, while INPs are more exploratory. This is a guy who put his hand on a hot car and he immediately imagined The Red Room. He is also apparently extremely polite and mature" INFPs are like that when they work with other people, the healthy ones; responsible above all. When he says he likes "going into strange worlds you build" he means it literary. He's all about textures, moods, visual contrasts, nothing Ni-Fe about the guy. I think surrealism has more to do with inferior Se than inferior Te and lack of Ti. So you have this very strange movie that started from this very strange day dream. He doesn't seem to have that "investigator" passion for diving deep into topics, preferring to focus on juxtaposing objects of emotional complexity, to create a dissonant manipulator of the subconscious. You've definitely studied him a lot closer in terms of MBTI than I have, so there's that. He did not realise what were his responsibilities until then. Couldn't there theoretically be ISFJs like this. I see his function strength as something like: Ni > Fi > Fe > Ne > Se > Si > Ti > Te, and it all comes down to trying to come up with one type that best represents him which is very difficult. More puzzle pieces come, more ideas are caught, and it starts forming a thing. I thought that if spam votes can't be deleted than whole page should be deleted and re-added. He even has one character turn a running garden hose in the direction of the camera for a moment, as if he is peeing at the audience. He was more tied to reality, he painted stuff that was there in reality and only use his strong imagination for aesthetic purpose. , N because the way they take this projects into this mind-blowing creations that stretch the limits of their genre and tend to be contemplative people. And then one day, there it is. Cause that is just funny. rememberGregory House' discussion havn't be deleted, i jude hid te page. It was a cheap movie but he build the props manually. butterrfly=/=buterfly. Because on the one hand, he talks about introverted intuition quite a lot. As for Lynch looking bad-ass. He does have Ni but it is a strong Ni. Also note how his movies, when he's not being surreal, tend to be very down-to-earth stories about common life as it is lived (Se). Lynch was lazy (not about Eraserhead, I just meant to say that he was not productive as you would expect an ISFP filmmaker to be). When the dedication to Winding Refn's wife comes and Sia starts singing about the voices in her head that tell her to treat herself better, I can actually believe in it because Winding Refn has told in his own extremely personal way and insulted the establishment every way he could on the way. com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/drive-still03. Or how he imagined The Red Room from a warm red car. I was watching this vid on YT about Lost Highway and he said that he was inspired/obsessed by the OJ Simpson case and the horror that implies to live with that. Doesn't really sound like a person living in ideas (N). When you're a child, something as simple as a tree doesn't make sense. DL:Because darkness has crept in since then. Mullhoand Dr for instance hes just bitching abou being a true artist and complaining about hollywood's way of making movies. A good way to differentiate ISFP from an NF type is to examine what the artist's intentions are. Or I can be going along and see an old Band-Aid in the street, and you know how an old Band-Aid is. You'll never see an INFJ call strangers "Friends", only a naive INFP. The world seemed to be more quiet when the plane was passing through the sky. It's got some dirt around the edges and the rubber part has formed some black little balls. ''I changed my vote to INFP. Not Lynch tough. But it's all the little details. Both of you do not have very convincing argument for either type. Apparently he liked building stuff from an young age. He talks about ideas, but he doesn't talk ideas. I think Lynch has some sort of Tertiary Ni fixation with surrealism. Don't know, I'm so confused lately on this issue, I have no idea why can't I just leave this behind and focus on my personal dreamer-aesthete thingy I tried to do as to individualize my own personality types. And he's flipping one puzzle piece at a time into me. And the quote about details is actually very Si, not Se. He argues his case, unlike MBTI master who just know things. He does seem to have that inferior rejected Te thing going on, which would make sense for an INFP. Lynch persona is not dark at all. Instinctively sx/sp, very passionate, talks a lot about what he likes and dislikes and doesn't fear including his bizzare fantasies into film, he goes for the essence of meditation, unique perception and art. Also, similar with what I pointed could be Fi-Si below, Blue Velvet seems mainly to be about his idylic childhood and the contrast with the dark side of society he found out later. *(Fi-Si), on my INFP list, to anotherThat's a good point #hello to, I also tought this, but he excelled at the SP side of movie creation with Eraserhead, and like I said, and he alwayes felt off to me despite being close in type, enneagram and instinct. I find Refn agressive, and The Neon Demon is the worst film I've seen in theaters. Also compare his body language to those of INFPs and INFJs. And making a movie about the ''cruelty'' and ''shallowness'' of the beauty industry is one of the most cliche things ever. Like Kubrick's more original works were based on books which he modified untill they matched his personal likes and dislikes while adding stuff that accentiate certain aspects of a scene. It's just the weird way it makes you feel and how mysterious it is. :P"As a teenager, I was really trying to have fun 24 hours a day. Yet, compared to your average ISFP, his images are more influenced by his unconscious. It would've been better if he transferred some more powers to mods, maybe power to delete filthy things. '''Part 2:When you take from the equation the Ni bias that comes with Transcendental Meditation which makes him describe his process as quite Ni, and compare with how his actual process is, it actually sounds more like his main drive is again, feeling tones that come to him in fragments. If I would type the movie itself it would be ISP, but don't know Refn himself. He also demonstrates introverted feeling. And by that token, you could say Lynch is more image driven, than idea driven. There's a the fact that he's an obviously gifted person, which makes it more likely to have several functions strongly developed, thus more likely an ISFP with strong Ni then an INFJ with poor Fe and even poorer Ti. The ISFP's work questions "What does this song/film make you feel. I would be surprised if they were the same type actually. For example, your beloved Refn and Drive. But while I can see an ISFP adding strong intuition to his movies (sort of like Blue Velvet), I can't see an ISFP making Eraserhead as a debut film. Mostly psychological, noir, eerie, desolate, esoteric, atmospheric, more dreamy than psychedelic kind of surrealism. Btw, do you have an official name yet for the "dreamer-aesthete thingy", as you called it. Well, I see stronger Ni than Fi, and no Te so he can't be INTJ, leaving INFJ as the best option, although INFP comes in 2nd place. Si finds comfort in routine, and Ne imagination is left to wonder in all directions without being distracted by the every day 'surprises'. '' SP are about being exploratory when it comes to the senses, but Si, even lower Si is bound to same kind of routine or another. I think it's more important that he's interested in what lies behind the way things appear that is N over S, than Se or Ni aesthetics. Like Saint-Exupéry being INFJ and George Orwell being INFP. I don't see what the last part of your comment has to do with the rest. Maybe if there was more information about his food habits. Introverted xNFP = INFP. I think Winding Refn, in a way, is Lynch up-side down a lot of the time. Also, butterfly probably want she and Refn to remain the only INFPs on the planet, because it's a match made in heaven or something. Just my two cents. He has that intense, cool Se/Ni vibe, but at the same time he is clearly not Fe. He's very sensitive to how the environment feels around him, and I don't see much envy directed to the social sphere or intimates, like for example, from Kurt Cobain (sx/sp). Evilish in his persona, not his movies. q=DAVid+lynch+so+this+is+love&biw=1024&bih=602&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj39OKdx4bNAhXI2xoKHYNeDYAQ_AUICCgD#tbm=isch&q=kurt+cobain+paintings''Part 3:Some other quotes that sounds very INFP: ''I love child things because there's so much mystery when you're a child. Also he can be so erratic at times. Rest was all rubbish. Really, because he has 'cool' hair or something. There is a good reason why surreal films are almost always considered dream-like and that has to do with a distinct detachment from concrete reality and thus reality itself is viewed through the arcehtypal lense of Ni which is concerned more with a certain distinct nature of reality than it's literal physical depiction. So This Is Love, would have a muffled sound like talking through a glove. According to Mikkelsen, Winding Refn is a complete nerd you can't discuss anything but movies with. He saw a red car and he imagined a red room. He explained it somewhere better, by sticking to a routine, he can leave his mind freely to day-dream. An ISFP artist's work is not so much about finding hidden meanings, it's about how the viewer or audience experiences the artistic creation as delineated through the five senses. Se, even coupled with Ni has a certain conventional aesthetic that lacks completely from his 'paintings'. ), draws, paints and makes music while just taking in good faith a type of meditation that supposedly can hinder natural catastrophes if enough people do it, affecting the aura of the environment or something. With my description I was not trying to suggest his movie are "deep" or original, but playful/wacky (Ne) and that the ideas seem to come before the images. INFPs, like most introverts, are quiet and reserved. They prefer not to talk about themselves.. What would an artistic, anti-social ISFJ look like. You see it in the distance and it looks small, but as you go closer, it seems to grow – you haven't got a handle on the rules when you're a child. Watch this interview about 16', the way he insults Mads Mikkelsen, the most un-INFP behavior. Which can be explained with. I didn't start thinking until I was 20 or 21. From what I understand what was hindering Lynch from finishing the movie was lack of money, not laziness. What is the best option for the MBTI type of David Lynch? What about enneagram and other personality types?. com/site/wp-content/uploads/drive-DRV-01381_rgb. If Lynch was an INFP I imagine he would have come at it in a different way, in terms of what the red room is supposed to mean, etc. Not saying INFJs are bad. Or does the conservatism of Si hinder the possibility. I don't see the moralistic aspects you're referring to. However, seeing as how he is very structured in his everyday life, maybe he isn't really inferior in Te. htmlEthics is not restricted to Fi. Compare to similar director Nicolas Winding Refn (INFP) who tends to have a lot more complex and developed metaphors. #idlebody, What do you think of Kubrick. I guess you are. Perhaps it's precisely because Lynch only cares about the surface of it that he was able to make it as a surrealist (. To me it feels like self absorbed Se, like De Palma, possessed by his obsessions. That's moronic. It gives him some kind of spiritual/aesthetic experience. His aesthetics and humor is very Se and Ni so I would guess ISFP or INFJ. Lynch's work is intense as fuck and also twisted. Really unpleasant and didn't expect it, yet he started laughing right after that. = Introverted. Welcome to MBTIBase - PersonalityBase, here you can learn about David Lynch MBTI type.. I think that's more inferior Te + Se than Te + Ne. Routine or not I think you need to look at other things to know if he was a J, in this case an INFJ (Ni-dom) as your theory. A Bug Dreams would be a really shrill 15. This is why I get annoyed when people type guys like David Lynch or David Bowie as ISFP, because NF artists are interested in searching for hidden meanings through abstraction. "reliable, responsible and conscientious. Also, the fact that he has this thing with the world hidden behind the real world, the meeting of the normal and the bizzare, the journey in a weird world hidden behind the surface, strikes me very INFP. Anyway, I think creative processes vary for everyone of course, but I have the impression ISFPs tend to be copyists (through Se). Furthermore, note his interest in new age-y stuff like Transcendental Meditation. He could be ISFP as well. Did you understad what I said. A Ni-dom would talk about concepts and archetypes in their work instead of rambling on and on how ''ideas are a beautiful thing'' and never getting anywhere like he read it in a book but never got after the first chapter. Either Kubrick is indeed NT and then all contemplative directors are N types, or Kubrick is ISTP and everyone else remains in doubt. Imo it's not very Se at all, but an almost moralistic fairy tale. I just thought about it for the last 10 minutes. But I think ISFPs are systematically underestimated, among other reasons because most people seem to lack an extensive understanding of Se and Tertiary Ni - and what it can do and does. that seems very Te. Anyway, I guess every artistic type can start from some sudden image, but an IN would translate those images in ideas, while an ISFP would just use them for their direct effect (such as an industry based on using people heads to make pencils and other stuff, as opposed to just making pencils form people's heads). I just have a really hard time making sense of Lynch as a INFP and especially INFJ. He's interested in society as a whole, sending out tweets on his twitter wanting to know what and how everyone is doing. INFJ 5w4 9w1 4w5 sp/so. Did you read what I wrote below, bobnickmad. Because like David, Russell Brand also practices transcendental meditation and despite Russell being ENFP, he managed to develop his Ni through that. Your post about him being ISFP made me more sure about him being INFP :) (in the sense that I still can't see Eraserhead ISFP, lol). And it feels fake. Maybe that Transcendental Meditation really works after all. For one, I find the music he makes very Ne in aesthetic, but I think any can like whatever style of aesthetics they like, it's more a matter of personal taste. But I see INFJs all the opposite of what you just have said. I imagine stuff like that often. With ISFP all the parts fit and there are no too big problems imo; it's just kind of surprising, that is all. "INFP that conciously channels Ni. When you look at those paintings, even though the motives are surreal, there is a sort of earthy evenness to their beauty (Se).