Emmanuel Kant/Immanuel Kant Myers-Brigs type - MBTI, enneagram and personality type info
ISTJs didn't even have "Methodical" as a trait. Jung saw Hegel as Ti with mixed intuition and contrasted this with Kant who was pure thinking introversion and Nietzsche who was Ni mixed with Ti. Free in-depth and practical information on the 16 personality types, including careers and relationships.. Crutique of Pure Reason is condensed Ti. Te and INTJ don't look for consistency in principle but rather its agreeableness with objective reality. Kant now is a clear and wonderful example of Ti. so I don't know if that's a great example to use for your cause. He's used as the exemplary Ti type by Jung btw, almost as if Jung had Kant in mind when describing Introverted Thinking. Don't really understand 6w5 votes. Descartes made a philosophy focused on possibility (Ne) and rationnality(Ti). INTPs are not Fi-ish in the slightest. Like if one type mildly conflicts with their earlier life and matches their later life, and another type matches their earlier life and greatly conflicts with their later life, you probably go with the former type. There INTJ's depressive and idealists, just as there INTJ's more athletic and assertive; INFP there's bums and vegetables as there INFP's most dedicated, assertive and objectives; INTP there's more slow and random as there INTP's more organized, charismatic and idealistic; There ExTJ arrogant and totalitarian's like there's ExTJ calmer, idealistic and friendly; There ESFP's only think about sex just as there ESFP more ambitious and intelligent's. In terms of his MBTI type, anybody who has read or dabbled in The Critique of Pure Reason, the pleonastic verbosity of the text is hard to follow without the reader scratching his or her head constantly. Scotty is probably a loser INFP who does not believe in personal development and thinks that just because he is unable to self develop, he ends up thinking that all are also like him - Fi-Si negative. Wasn't the book like 1000 pages long. The loop theory is bullshit, and your support of it is mega bullshit (pointing to one person)Kant is the best example of an INTJ in Ti-Si loop. Try to prove some people they're misguided. INTPs are more "Fi-ish" in general than INTJ, in their hesitance to create overarching rules as Ti values precision and they would rather err on the side of not getting something wrong. Also, the difference between him and Nietzsche, are so clear INTP vs INTJ differences, it's not even funny. ^^It would be silly to pretend like our expected MBTI test scores (by letters), or our use of different functions don't fluctuate across our lifetimes. Boring and more productive. I can't wait for the day. Or do they develop their lower functions. Heh, butterfly will always be the only true insect. let's compare Kant (ISTJ),Descartes (INTP) and Hegel (INTJ). So, we're like an ant-farm to you, Scotty. The fact that so many great personalities are typed with a very strong tertiary just makes the theory more valid. INTP but its only possible using Ti-Si loop model. Even though Hegel certainly is INTJ he's a Jung Ti who actually moves fairly well into Te territory in constructing his all encompassing theory (I don't understand this NJ "Ni all encompassing" business because even the most INxJ heavy in all letters will probably not be driven to create such an all encompassing theory on things outside the self because it's focus is highly subjective). Come on, a simple question: If a INxP begin to respect and follow schedules every day, and begin to trust trends, experiences and tactics, you think the Si is not influencing absolutely nothing. INTPs are the one obsessed with having very precise theories, INTJs are the ones thinking about translating abstract theory into something that will cause some change in the outside world. His ethics is 100% ISTJ ideology incarnate. lol I'm curious how you define Kant. If you type people *using their G-B model tertiary function as one of your criteria* then of course you are going to end up with a lot of your typings demonstrating strong G-B tertiary functions. It's just human nature though, but human nature is why some of these silly ideas like function loops are so prevalent. Discover Array, and more, famous people, fictional characters and celebrities here!. That doesn't validate function magic. P vs J is not a binary thing. *makes chirping sound in some bush nearby*Better explaining not much, than providing a lot of misleading information, it is not. Kant has a lot of traits of people who test as INTJ, mainly being industrious, methodical, and deliberate. lolI think there is a lot more point of typing people by letter because at least it it has a connection with reality, however tenuous it may be, when function magic stuff actually directly conflicts with it. You think that Te is not strong. And those are the examples you chose to cherry pick. INTPs are not Fi-ish in the slightest. I know "loop theory" (bullshit) is all about special cases, supposedly unhealthy, dysfunctional ones, which seems to contradict how people type so many highly productive people in a loop, but where is any empirical backing of there being more of these special cases of INTPs who have immense "Si", than say, INTJs with immense "Si". But identify the correct causation here. You're just a moron who does not believe in the development of 3 functions. He was educated by a ISTJ, so consequently developed enormous concentration and objectivism, explaining and applying all his ideas, a true visionary. Everything he did was regimented. If types can only use two functions, then why do they not have the functions displayed only as Ti-Ne. I can't simply see Te anywhere. But the systematic categorization of Kant's work is based on internal consistency rather than external practicality. INTJs seem to have been found the most methodical type of ALL according to an actual study, so if you are actually going to use the function magic of "Si" to turn methodical-ness into an INTP trait, just don't. I guess in general people like their definitive answers so they would rather say stuff like "INTP with loop" than "somewhere between INTP and INTJ", which I think much more accurately describes Kant. The MBTI questionnaire sorts people into one of 16 different personality types.. CT also has a Spinoza vs. His strict routine developed later in his life when his Si developed. Kant infographic and it does a good job illustrating INFJ vs. Kant want to categorize the faculty of the mind, show the opposition between empirical knowledge and knowledge who came out of our experience (Si detail and comparison +Te classification). Thomas the Tard, why must you talk to yourself. Si is a function that seeks to be predictable, repetitive and methodical, I know INP's who love to follow routines, but also like to be unpredictable, but even so, over time, learned to respect schedules and accomplish tasks. The name Thomas the Tard suits you perfectly. So you think the methodical and planned way he acted had no connection with Si. Kant clearly shows Ti-Ne and has traces huge traces of Si and Fe, so many confuse with IxTJ and has even come to type it as INFJ. During his young adult days he was very sociable and liked hanging around despite never finding a partner until much later. Ok, TTTJ, "Trust trends, experiences, and tactics" is such a vague statement, but the schedule thing is definitely an IxTJ trait, so it really just means: either you should rethink your typing of that person or they are more well-balanced (closer to a J type). I think you're confused tertiary and lower function with the shadow opposing functions, which are opposing, witch, and trickster demon. Kant is clearly characterized by thinking dominance but is also intuitive (no S will spend that much time perfecting theories inside their head), so he's INTJ. Basically I look at the idea of "strict routines and a predictable life" as evidence for IxTJ, and evidence against INTP. Scotty, note that you think all kinds only use two functions and the rest is totally ignored. So if someone thought exactly like Kant but he was lazy and didn't have an ordered lifestyle, he would be INTP.
. The thing is, typing people by letter doesn't explain much about them. It's pointless. Pretty weak stuff, even though it's about the most thoughtful post I've ever seen from Thomas "The Tard" Jung. Even if not directly tested, public voting can provide good accuracy regarding Emmanuel Kant/Immanuel Kant Myers-Briggs and personality type!. Love means fulfilling one's duty according to him. Nevermind how much we disagree on the fundamentals, I guess that makes sense with INFJs often being called "old souls" in a way. Plenty have assumed Kant is an ISTJ based on his development and proclamation of the Categorical Imperative. his philosophy inspired by ancient greek perfectionnism is also very Te If he thinks like an INT but is very systematic, he's INTJ fair and simple. Kant now is a clear and wonderful example of Ti. /sand INFP are the least prodcutive to society INFP suckscotty is an INFP who suckerrr and says INFP are perfect bbut INFP are stupid who goes into tumblr and fanfic and SJW idiotsScotty, shut up. Kant's neighbors said he'd leave the house at the same time every day to walk to the store. we can see his Te in Human all to Human, he explained why hard work and planning was the most important part in art. I actually agree with 1w9 though because I think his moral telos colored the way he went about categorizing the minds' functions. Besides his Si points more towards an INTP than an INTJ. I think Kant is as INTP as it can get. It's against the nature of an INTP. It's hard to say. Thanks for echoing what I said. It's definitely a Ti-Fe axis with an Ne-Aux. Simple behavioral habbits. The INTP is sometimes called an architect due to Kantian architectonics being similar the the their way of thinking. 1w9-5w6-4w5 probably though the heart thing I only put as that to tack on some more 5. He is an INTJ and was able to develop great athletic skills, so it is a great marathon runner and had admitted that the activity made him feel in touch with the body and the outside world; You think inferior Se is not exposed and remains weak and confused with no contact. Ti looks for underlying principles in anything they examine, hence the principle itself is more important than anything else. So yeah function magicians are going to feel the Forer effect. First of all, to say it was "Si" in your model implies that he is INTP. Also, we type people like Kant INTP because they're so obviously ones. Yes I agree with you, just saying it goes to show letter-by-letter typing is simplistic and though it has its place, alone it's not always accurate. Probably think that is born and dies like, fuck you asshole. Honestly I'd expect an INTJ to display more traits of MBTI's Si than an INTP, as an IxxJ type. I always thought he was more of an ISTJ. You are in the best place to test MBTI and learn what type Emmanuel Kant/Immanuel Kant likely is!. Yet INTPs are Candid, Ingenious, Complicated, Independent, and Rebellious. Obviously, there are cognitive preference, but, like it or not, to tertiary and inferior may well influence the individual, it is the complement of ego. But when I see so many INTJ votes I think I understand better why there are so many self identified INTJs on the internet :-)Indeed that is so. and as Arthur Schopenhauer [INFJ]. A very introverted INTJ will likely be more like Ni-Ti, because they are logical yet don't have much of a focus on the external world. The "Si" talked about in function axis MBTI is really Judging: being methodical and duty-based is a caracteristic of Judging, not sensation. So my point is Scotty: why bother in the first place. For example Descartes or Sartre probably weren't in a loop. That's why we try to get at behind the letters. The way you type people doesn't make a theory valid. Also, it should be mentioned that having your tertiary developed doesn't make one be in a loop. It is true that INP's tend to escape routines and seek new, but with the maturity, the lower functions, especially tertiary, appears to complement. Too much obsession with precision is Ti over Te. Here you can explore of famous people and fictional characters.. you really are a goner. So though he is the poster boy for INTP from a cognitive functions perspective, in letter-by-letter analysis he's paradoxically the poster boy for INTJ. Because you have to give to lucho show that has Si-Fe are practically invisible to functions that do not exist. I'll just leave this guy as INTx, I don't know enough about him. Lol Thomas The Tard strikes again. Dominant and tertiary functions loop can occur in all personality types actually. (Mostly Scotty)Kant's writing in infamously difficult for how how pain-stacking it is in order to prove the consistency of its logical frame-work. lol I'm curious how you define Kant. Which evidence do you have outside of his philosophy. Kant is an INTP developed equal to Charles Darwin. Intuitives focus on a more abstract level of thinking; they are more interested in theories, patterns, and explanations. They are often more concerned with the future than the present and are often described as creative. He is absolutely a 1w9 without question. The abhor personal sentiments when examining a topic and stick to impersonal analysis as much as possible. Yeah I guess I find observing people here pretty amusing, or I wouldn't keep coming back. Kant doesn't fit the profile of Ti-Ne mainly because Ne is opposed to being so methodical, just like he doesn't really fit the profile of INTJ because he has too much obsession with precision. And what you say Alan Turing. You are correct that INTPs would examine enough data before coming up with refined principles on which the object work but once they have decided on it, the principle becomes overarching. his philosophy is totally opposed to socrate's Ti desire of finding the idea/eternal truth. That's all there is. Ti looks for underlying principles in anything they examine, hence the principle itself is more important than anything else. < It makes sense that you become more introverted, philosophical, attentive to other people's needs and wants, and organized with the years. If we can just type people by letter like that, why do we even bother typing them in the first place. And still have the nerve to say that INFP's with superior Fi and inferior Te are more analytical and rational than INFJ's. It would make sense that people cover for their weaknesses as they get older, "regress to the mean". This personality type is highly individualistic and Champions strive toward creating their own methods, looks, actions, habits, and ideas!. Hegel have a clear vision about what future will be (Ni) and made one of the most complete philosophy about society organization (Te) the hegel comparison can be applicate also to marx (another INTJ) Clear INTJ in all letters. It's just absurd. So he HAS to be Judging. But the systematic categorization of Kant's work is based on internal consistency rather than external practicality. And INTPs do not like strict routines and a predictable life. And because in more than a few INTP logicians and philosophers, the Ti and Si comes out as more pronounced than Ne. Scotty and what you say Walt Disney[ENFP]. Ne usually takes back seat in Kant's work. Jung also proposed that in a person one of the four functions above is dominant – either a function of perception or a function of judging.. Scotty is a widespread and limited person. @bobnickmad, he would be closer to the P side, yes. Chill out, Thomas "The Tard" Jung. So you think the methodical and planned way he acted had no connection with Si. But his prolix works are definitely the mark of an INTP. "detail and comparison" is thinking, not Si, Si is subjectivity in processing life experiences. I find it funny most people type him 1w9 since most people also seem to say his moral philosophy proceeds from his view of the mind and not the other way around (would seem to indicate 5 over 1). Scotty, you're some kind of autistic. Anyway, fuck you, your retarded animal. Do you have some problem. INTJs values come from their tertiary Fi and not Ni because Ni in general is apathetic to value and principles. Te and INTJ don't look for consistency in principle but rather its agreeableness with objective reality. It's just hard to see an ISTJ writing this much. And because in more than a few INTP logicians and philosophers, the Ti and Si comes out as more pronounced than Ne. Well if all NPs are doomed to develop their Si, then I dread the day when I age into a boring person. So if people that fit the profile of Ti-Ne also show strong signs of Si, that means the whole Ti-Ne-Si thing has validity. You are correct that INTPs would examine enough data before coming up with refined principles on which the object work but once they have decided on it, the principle becomes overarching. The kant who had strict routines and a predictable life is mostly a myth exaggerated by his neighbors. Yet INTJs are known to be very methodical and planned, and your model says they have no "Si". do you think they change their type. Either 5w6 or 1w9, probably strong enough on both to switch between then. Like going from a P type to a J type. Kant is an INTP poster boy and he is rightfully so. You type them due to their G-B tertiary function and then in a very circular fashion, loop back and point to their G-B tertiary function. He developed universal systems to explain the phenomena in the world and was obsessed with perfecting the precision of said systems. What I'm saying, you moron idiot who thinks is an INTP, is that there are people within a particular type that show extreme differences. There's also nothing that suggest ''efficiency'' about Kant's rules in any way, his rules are an example of something that works good on paper but isn't practical in real life. It's like seeing a philosopher and typing him a philosopher. If you read Charles Darwin's biography you will see that before he was quite introspective and rejected all kinds of contact and was a disorganized so then when he went to Amazon, he began to take an interest in understanding people and what was going the mind of them, and also with the shipping time, began to develop more concentration and focus, so that his father said that when he saw him he looked like someone else. So you think the methodical and planned way he acted had no connection with Si. So, what are you doing here in the first place. Kant would probably be considered a weak P or weak J as he was, but if his lifestyle was different, that would tilt the balance to the P side more definitively. People evolve over time. Why must it be between INTP and ISTJ. They'll change their "logic/framework" as soon as measurable objectives demand it. Parting from simple principles and using deduction from there until reaching universal principles. Duty for duty's sake. M aka Thomas "The Tard" Jung continues not only to know nothing, but also to attribute beliefs to me that I don't even have (people only using top 2 functions for example). Also almost everyone including myself thinks Turing is an INTP. INTJs are interested in ideas and theories when observing the world.. Both Ni and Si can desire external order, Te is great for creating it, so in terms of functions you could really say that the person developed Ni, Si or Te, depending on the specifics. The abhor personal sentiments when examining a topic and stick to impersonal analysis as much as possible. What is the best option for the MBTI type of Emmanuel Kant/Immanuel Kant? What about enneagram and other personality types?. I don't even get what you are arguing about. I feel like I've got a lot of insight into psychology, more from watching how people type than any typology systems, and it's actually helped me in understanding certain other things. So, if you are going to use "Methodical" as an argument for INTP over INTJ, you will remain Thomas "The Tard" Jung. Not sure about more philosophical, a lot of old people just store up a bunch of information and go on automatic mode with philosophy, and don't really question things at all. How is he in any way a perceiver. Nevertheless, he definitely does have Si as a function, which is why he can't be INTJ. In fact they hate them, early life, late life, whatever. If he must be intuitive then INTJ at least has more in common with ISTJ than INTP does. If not ISTJ, then I would think INTJ. The ''categorical imperative'' is not concerned with efficiency, but with the consistency of the principle, and in a very impersonal way (compared to Fi, which is about the consistency of the principle, but in a very personal way, championing certain values above else). I think the whole tertiary function magic stuff is just used to conveniently bend around rules to pigeonhole complex people based off stereotypes when in reality there's nothing resembling 16 types, just you can do your best to come up with a best fit type. From the MBTI manual itself: On personality trait measures, [INTJ] score as Discreet, Industrious, Logical, Deliberate, Self-Confident, and Methodical. Do you think he had no contact with the Ti function. People probably get more IxxJ with age at the very least so when we talk about 70 year old ENFP, they are ENFP for a 70 year old, which may have different standards than ENFP for a 15 year old. However, a Te-aux of an INTJ can look like faux-Ti as it is very self-questioning and cautious in comparison to Te-dom. If you enjoyed this entry, find out about the personality types of Writers characters list.. That all sounds very ISTJ-ish in behavior. I have a better question for you Scotty: If a person changes his behavior during his life-time, going from a lazy person to a more ordered person later in life, or from a shy one to a more sociable one, or vice-versa.
. For people like Kant, the best we can do is try to find the "best fit" with whatever system we use. But there is no reason that Kant (as a possible INTP) couldn't still have developed a highly disciplined lifestyle due to his belief in a deontological moral universalism, stemming from the Categorical Imperative. So INTP seems like a good option, as stereotypical as that may be for the majority of philosophers. Ne usually takes back seat in Kant's work. How is that condensed lmao. Then again, we have accounts that say Kant left his house at the same time every day and followed the same schedule with painstaking scrupulosity. What's the point of even discussing MBTI if it's by letters. lol I'm curious how you define Kant. An INTJ values efficiency more in a system and their Te is more likely to say "this system works even though it is flawed". I think the INTJ votes come from people who approach typology from a Keirseyan/letter-by-letter perspective, since behaviorally speaking Kant was very regimented, structured, and conscientious. Nietzsche does not have any Ti. I tend to think of Kant as the INTP poster boy. He didn't wrote much of his most important work until very late in his life. In this site you can find out which of the 16 types this character 'Emmanuel Kant/Immanuel Kant' belongs to!. He has to be judging. INTJs values come from their tertiary Fi and not Ni because Ni in general is apathetic to value and principles. They'll change their "logic/framework" as soon as measurable objectives demand it. Those who don't use proper concepts like functional loops often end up mistyping him as INTP. Scotty, let me simplify what I'm trying to explain, since its Si is influencing you in a negative way. I also don't understand why an ISTJ couldn't have written as much as he did. Nietzsche's philosophy by comparison is much more pragmatical (''Will to Power'') and more personal in terms of values. People who want to use his philosophy as a basis for typology have thus come up with function magic attempts of explaining how he totally didn't act like an INTP (see: Ti-Si loop). Welcome to MBTIBase - PersonalityBase, here you can learn about Emmanuel Kant/Immanuel Kant MBTI type.. It would be something so easy we wouldn't need sites like this. He's not an INTP poster boy because outside of his approach to philosophy, he was clearly much more of an INTJ. Or you just don't think people can change like that in the first place. Neither Kubrick or people like that. The exemplary ISTJ is a person characterized by methodology and principles above all, thus by thinking dominance. Seems more like ISFJ, but I guess this is the wrong thread for that lol. For those who think the loop theory bullshit, should study about the personality of Kant and shut up. It's like an average INTP ideas compressed 10x and put in a can. Kant is difficult to type because the rules he did believe in were very cautious in a way that isn't really contradictory with INTP. After I just got done explaining in some detail how people can develop, you ridicule me for some kind of a belief that people can't develop. All that suggests INTP. (Ti-dom)Compare to Hegel, who's writing is infamously difficult for how vague it appear (Ni-dom). I agree Kant has to be Ti dominant with clear Si, which most developed and well functioning IN-Ps have. Having your third function very developed helps one be more productive than types only with the first two functions developed, it makes sense.
Emmanuel Kant/Immanuel Kant
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