Haruki Murakami Myers-Brigs type - MBTI, enneagram and personality type info
Is that something similar to how Ni works. It's not a final conclusion. This is why we go on, day after day, concocting fictions with utter seriousness. INFJ have that auxiliary Fe for example, I know Dostoyevski and Mishima wrote more commercial books alongside their big works, so they can choose a goal outside of themselves and work to it. '' I'm not saying for INFJs memory isn't important, that's ridiculous, but having such a vivid and immersive memory ''I can smell the air, I can feel the ground, and I can see the green of the trees'' sounds very, very Si. Each of us is, more or less, an egg. Repetition, not trying new things. His books have a great peacefulness in them despite the violence. Here you can explore of famous people and fictional characters.. Some parts do not belong to yourself. I want to claim him as an INFP, since he is by far the writer I enjoy the most (I've read literally ~everything~ that has been translated), but deep inside I fear he is an INFJ. What I remember is the lack of a conclusion, if anything. Sure he discusses philosophical and social issues, but there are points being brought up along the story, they rarely feel as if they drive the plot. I'm not voting yet. Every type has to open themselves to the world in their own way, a Feeler specially towards other people, Fi or Fe regardless. If you enjoyed this entry, find out about the personality types of Writers characters list.. I was thinking it sounded more like the inferior Se of an INFJ. ” ''Murakami insists that, when he’s not writing, he is an absolutely ordinary man — his creativity, he says, is a “black box” to which he has no conscious access. I think he just doesn't want to close in, limit their meanings by confirming or denying people's interpretations. I fully believe it is the novelist's job to keep trying to clarify the uniqueness of each individual soul by writing stories - stories of life and death, stories of love, stories that make people cry and quake with fear and shake with laughter. With all this said, I can only think of one other writer in this "restrained, literary fantasy" style and that is INFP for sure, and that is Paul Auster. I go to bed at 9:00 pm. Even if not directly tested, public voting can provide good accuracy regarding Haruki Murakami Myers-Briggs and personality type!. Although at least there the crazy seems related to points in the book, while it Murakami has this unfinished quality to it I don't really associate with Ni-doms. Overall, what stands out most for me in interviews, is the fact that he see is that for him writing is mostly about exploring his interior world, which I think is a very INFP thing. of world do I have in my mind. His writing is very Fi heavy and he seems to have some sort of Si based on his personal life so INFP makes the most sense. If something looks mysterious people will see symbolism in it at every point. strange things in this. I had this once, about how many of the persons considered INFP weren't actually, it's was just an over-zealous stereotype, and I fall into this again. I've read somewhere that he doesn't read Japanese literature because of his father. "When I’m in writing mode for a novel, I get up at 4:00 am and work for five to six hours. '' Ne over Ni. Also: ''it's not a final conclusion, nothing is conclusive, everything in my work is changeable'' sounds very more like Ne than Ni. INFP 9s are very different from INFP 4s, but I'm not sure how an INFJ 9 would look as compared to an INFP 9. I also think closer inspection of his fantasy and individualistic ethics reveal they might be better understood as Ni- and Fe-derived, as discussed in previous posts. the place to escape. Maybe his Ne manifests while he's writing. He has on separate occasions said Natsume Soseki is his favorite writer, and the two share so much in common Murakami could almost be considered a successor. (not in the sense of writing for teenagers, but written by a teenager)I've only read one or two of his books. First of all, I think his refusal to explain his metaphors is part of his INFJ mysticism - as I think his imagination is actually very metaphorical/allegorical (I'll get to some examples later). INFJs are under-achievers as well. "It's a Barnum&Bailey world just as phony as it can be/But it wouldn't be make-believe if you believed in me". I think you're also 100% right in saying that I'm severely underestimating INFP's abilities to be in touch with their own culture, and be active in it, and I think you make a very strong case for INFP. I stopped reading Wind Up Bird Chronicle, because after pages and pages, the story just didn't found any clear direction to develop on. There are so many new and. Overall, he doesn't seem to advocate any view of a better Japan, as much finds fault with its collectivist snd traditionalist mentality. Something like how the older Heidegger (INFJ) insisted on mixing his philosophy with poetry because he thought logic cuts away important parts of his insights. INFP makes so much sense, I can't see him as a Ni dpm now. Like think how different marxists can be in what they think Marx advocated, or Nietzsche being seen from a free-spirited individualist to a proto-fascist. I'm honestly not sure whether Gaiman or Murakami are INFJ or INFP. I don't know much about Murakami so I'm not entering the discussion, but a general point: @bobnickmad, butterfly - I’ve been reading your discussions on these famous writers, etc, which are very thoughtful, intelligent, and interesting. M: I’m a loner. I first raised the hypothesis of an inferior Se for Murakami due to his work habits, just as I did with Lynch. I think I have matured. That is, how directionless it is, with two instances. Ni is an interesting function, because Ni-doms thinkers and writers come as very confident in their world-view and can even have an almost prophetic thing about them, yet from the outside it can look very vague and ambiguous. Opening open to other people, liking to feel a connection to other people, wanting to make some reflection on issues that bother him about his society, all those things are not non-INFP at all. Murakami: I didn’t read many Japanese writers when I was a child or even in my teens. He doesn't strike me as obviously Fi + Ne, and rather give me a vibe that i often associate with NFJ/STP (but can't rationally explain). They are equally prone to daydreaming and tend to get underqualified jobs. Someone else will have to decide what is right and what is wrong; perhaps time or history will decide. Its changeable. Maybe he tries to use the theory of subconscious to understand this pecularities of his imagination and this makes it sound like he's talking about Ni. Well I still have more INFPs in my list than INFJs so maybe I'm just paranoid. I also don't think it's the way you think, that his Americanism has anything to do with reflecting his generation, the simplest interpretation it's that he likes to put all those things he loves inside the world he makes, and that managed to vibe thousands of people, but I doesn't think it's on purpose or anything like that. But in Japan I don’t have any writer friends, because I just want to have distance. Being ashamed that your country's representative doesn't want to admit the crime in their past, seems a very natural reaction to me, INFJ, INFP or other type. But really, I would have no much troubles about him if someone gave me a convincing argument of why he's Fi-dom. Remember, just as not all INTPs are perfect logicians, not all INFPs delve profoundly deep into their characters’ psyches; and just as most INTPs still look for facts to back up their thoughts, most INFPs still think about human nature beyond their own individuality :-)"Between a high, solid wall and an egg that breaks against it, I will always stand on the side of the egg. Maybe he's on an Fi-Si loop. '' This exploratory relationship towards one's inner world seems more an INFP writer characteristic, for an INFJ those images in their mind are an insight into the real nature of the world, so it's not so much a self exploration, as much it is a solving the riddle of the actual world, outside of themselves (they're actually less aware of the subjective nature of what they are doing, probably because Fi's nature of recognizing what belong to it, what's personal, while INFJ feel themselves as being open to the world, in connection to it, even when they're purely subjective. I think a lot of Japanese people feel the same way, which is probably why he became that generation's biggest writer to the old guard's horror. INFPs, like most introverts, are quiet and reserved. They prefer not to talk about themselves.. Murakami is by far the better writer though imo. He even said in an interview about his exercising routine that he's not actually a physical person: ''I'm not actually a physical person. I'll use some quotes that seem in contradictory to other writers you typed INFJ on this page. I also think INFJs can let things open in a certain way, if they're centered on their goals, confident on where they're going to. :p Of course, I don't claim this is clear proof, but it sure sounds interesting. The System is supposed to protect us, but sometimes it takes on a life of its own, and then it begins to kill us and cause us to kill others - coldly, efficiently, systematically. An INFJ may have a negative attitude the trends in one's culture, but for him it's seems more like simply a lack of connection on interest in it. The thing in Kafka on the Shore is heavily allegorical and has to be seen in light of Hard-Boiled Wonderland, which it is a kind of response/sequel to. One of the main conclusions from his sarin gas attack investigations seems to be that the mentality of the cult members is not so different than the collectivist mentality of the typical big company Japanese worker. ISFPs kind of philosophy is more of a contemplative kind, with little reasoning, like insights and with a certain aesthetic appeal. All I felt are Fi and Si, full of dream-like memories, nostalgia, introspection, impressions and reinterpretation of the past experience concerning strong emotions (Fi+Si). And each of us, to a greater or lesser degree, is confronting a high, solid wall. The last decade or so he has also increasingly been accepting his new role as the chief writer of Japanese society. Paul Auster is an important writer IMO and he is most certainly Fi dom as Butterfly pointed out.
. But now that I'm getting more familiar with Murakami (and I know Lynch rather well), I'm having a hard time seeing either of them INFJ. as a fiction writer. The repetition itself becomes the important thing; it’s a form of mesmerism. That's the difference, I guess. He's close to Paul Auster too. The wall has a name: It is The System. The goalposts for what an INFJ can do seem to have widened, where a free-associative, spontaneous creative process (Ne > Ni) is no longer regarded as valuable evidence in favor of Ne (see: Tolkien, Murakami, Miyazaki, Gaiman) yet any focus on universal and/or archetypal themes that don’t obviously connect to deep nuanced inner emotions is still regarded as definitive evidence in favor of Fe—even if these themes were not consciously imposed onto the narrative (see Tolkien, Miyazaki). Yeah, the 1 is there. I think he's an INFP or INFJ, but I can't tell which. Salinger, Shirley Jackson, Harper Lee, Marcel Proust, GRRM, and many, many more are INFPPART 1. But for people whom are so obsessed with depth or hidden aspects of life, being more superficial is actually quite an interesting challenge. I still think Shakespeare, Emily Brontë, J. In the afternoon, I run for 10km or swim for 1500m (or do both), then I read a bit and listen to some music. Even when making a creative leap of faith, they have a more or less precise foreseing of what's coming. I also think his disconnection from Japanese culture is severely overestimated. On the surface, Murakami seems very Ne I agree. Also, in the speech he gave when accepted the award in Israel, he said that ''like all novelists, I always do the opposite of what is told of me'', which sounds quite P. For example that humongous Underground book (which was only released in shortened form in West) where Murakami interviewed all kinds of people from both sides of the gas attack at that subway in Tokyo in 1995. If there is a murder case as the first thing, I don’t know who the killer is. But if I were to rewrite that book at this moment, maybe I would choose a different conclusion. It's not true, at least for me, that I no longer regard a free-associative, spontaneous creative process as valuable evidence for Ne. ] I chose that conclusion story-wise. At the same time, I expect an INFJ to be more directive with what he has to say in interviews, to be more pro-active rather than let the interviewer try to get the points out of them. Finally he has a "slacker" image, is fond of making himself sound very simple, and has highly valued individuality - from his first books to his last. But I don't doubt that me may be an ISFP as well. It's the same thing with George Martin. It sounds very much like the Inferior Se users I've known (INTJ/INFJ). Likewise, whereas Murakami books used to end when his girlfriend magically disappeared, in The Wind-Up Bird Chronicles he goes into a strange, magical dreamland to fight the future prime minister of Japan with a baseball bat, and thus succeeds in getting his wife back. The way I see it, the absurdity in Murakami starts out as representing how incredibly complicated modern society is (just like in Kafka). I think we have to look at the whole picture each time, and be careful not to underestimate Ni/Fe. I'm going to try to write out why. What happened. *we probably wouldn't have this discussion''closer inspection of his fantasy and individualistic ethics'' could be over-interpretation tough. Maybe his Ne manifests while he's writing. And it's true, when you cut his social issues to their bare bone, it doesn't go much beyond him being pacifistic and anti-collectivism. So there's this lack of clarity with them, but there's also this wise-man coming from the mountain to show the truth. So if the Sheep Man comes up, he’s real to me, you know. I think that many of you are confusing developed Si for him being a J. The thing that while he speaks how is imagination is spontaneous, he also speaks about as if it's automatic, not something under his control that can swap at ease, but rather something that exist in himself, but at the same time separated from his conscious will, and for him is not so much a process of building a world, as much as bringing it out to the surface from the depths. He also didn't run the bar alone but with his wife, and we don't know her type. He lives under a strict routine, discusses food, music and exercise with great reverence (Inferior Se), and successfully and happily ran a busy Tokyo bar for a decade. This isn't something I just made up either, his translator Jay Rubin agrees with this interpretation in the book he wrote on Murakami - and also says he thinks Murakami isn't quite serious when he claims the surreal stuff in his books is complete nonsense, even though he doesn't want to intrude on people's enjoyments of his books by correcting them either. I find this not very Ni-Fe. He's for sure a Fi-dom. :''Murakami:I dont know why but. (of course, it depends on the individual how feet on their ground are about this issues) And yeah, I think the Ni-Ti in combination in INFJs will have some symbolic interpretation about the role each scene has in a larger perspective. Ni doms writings would be more about the ideas and creating subversive/alternate realities, not recalling and reminiscing actual events. Gaiman I guess, but it's most of his charisma, maybe he's an INFP who developed his charisma so much he seems INFJ. I'd be curious to know what is the list of important contemporary writers you consider INFJ. It's more about a metaphysical mechanism. Imo there is a lot less "meaning" to be discovered in his nonsense than in Murakami. You said in those comments on Gaiman that he feels part of a community and talks towards the reader as an invitation in that community. Anyway, he's a fascinating character. I just wanted to go somewhere. I feel like the way MUrakami acts in interviews is kind of like this too, so I sometimes wonder if he's playing into a cultural stereotype for writers (Fe). Physical strength is as necessary as artistic sensitivity. Ni doms' improvisation is quite interesting as it is not as spontaneous as it is with Ne users, because it relies on self confidence, as if they were descontrustring on purpose the plans they might have had when starting. So if Gaiman and Murakami are both INFJ in your opinion, is there any INFP writer writing similar stuff: I mean in the sense of weir low-fantasy, surreal. The Wong Kar Wai analogy is spot on IMO. I have only one reason to write novels, and that is to bring the dignity of the individual soul to the surface and shine a light upon it. With the risk of repeating myself again, the main reason I can't see him INFJ: the plot. I don’t like groups, schools, literary circles. I don’t ‘make up’ anything. As an INFJ songwriter, I am fascinated by simple songs, like standards, which is for me very hard to achieve. '' Also, he seems to believe in a collective unconscious of sorts: ''I think dreams are collective. I think Ni doms can write something commercial, but they would have to think of this as an exercise that would be profitable for them, as a way of refining their skills. When I reached the final chapter, I was totally at a loss how to end the story. I also feel like the conflict at heart of Murakami's works is ultimately a Fe conflict, though it's a very strange case of it. I also feel like Murakami's orientation towards Western culture is fundamentally in tune with Japanese culture. It’s a kind of fuel; it burns and it warms you. Are we really that under-achievers as a bunch. But to hold to such repetition for so long — six months to a year — requires a good amount of mental and physical strength. If an unpredictable thing happens, it proves that you are doing something good, something true. Hope that makes sense, lol. But this society, which he has no ownership or understanding of, occasionally comes in with all its weirdness and takes, changes or ruins everything he holds dear. His writing process is more about self-disciplined Se, apparently. Some of his later writing has been called Dickensian (ENFJ). His demeanour is still more 9 than 1 so 9w1. So a Ni-dom would probably not have many problems with not knowing how to finish the final chapter. I was just curious. In that sense, writing a long novel is like survival training. So it could have been different. I was just focusing on the physical aspect of his regime, but it seems just part of his overall 1 like perfectionism. Also his imagination is too over-flowing to not be either an NP or a Ni-dom. He's for sure a Fi-dom. She doesn't seem to have an inferior Te. For example in Hard-Boiled Wonderland (young Murakami) the main character ends up hiding completely in his own mind (literally), disappearing into a psychological forest - whereas in Kafka on the Shore (older Murakami) the main character decides to leave a magical forest he has been hiding in and accept responsibility for a murder he did not commit simply because that is what society needs of him (Kafka is turning in his grave. I also think the social concern in Murakami's works after The Wind-Up Bird Chronicles - is immense. I’m not saying that these people aren’t INFJ, but the evidence that supports the INFJ typing for them is mostly one-sided or could also fit non-stereotypical interpretations of INFP. Looking past how surreal it sounds, doesn't all this sound very Ni+Fe to you all. But as you say they are reluctant to interpret or find a meaning to it, which I find weird for a Ni dom. " Those modifiers diffuse the strength of emotions, regulating everything so it's closer to the mean value, and I see that as a 9 thing, that evenness, which is interesting in Murakami books because it's paired with pretty horrifying events--like the man at the bottom of the well in Wind-Up Bird who watched his comrade get skinned alive. I've read somewhere that he doesn't read Japanese literature because of his father. I mean, Butterfly comparing Emily Bronte (INFP) with Charlotte (INFJ) mentions the perfect structured plot of Charlotte (INFJ) with the unpredictable plot of Emily (INFP). For example, you could say that INFJ have a certain connection to their culture, even when they're critical of trends in it. Hear the different sides and theories. Also, saying he finds it boring, sticky seems more P, an INFJ would likely had a more well-thought reasoning. I can smell the air, and I can touch the ground, and I can see the green of the trees. Each of us is a unique, irreplaceable soul enclosed in a fragile shell. He was also a translator (Mallarmé) before being a published writer. He just didn't have the confidence he could be a good writer, one could even claim that it's most likely for an INFP than for an INFJ to not have confidence in their actual qualities. I feel like this "grandfather of Japanese culture" role he has accepted would be more typical of an INFJ. I have read many of his works and would say that they actually have a lot of Fi type abstract and deep emotional passion. The MBTI questionnaire sorts people into one of 16 different personality types.. The way I kinda understand Ni is like this image seen from a distance, and the user tries to get as close to it as possible. The fact is that INFP writers or artists can be equally rigorous and steady in their practice. An INFJ even if opting for a spontaneous process would direct his plot around some kind of goal, because Ni is several steps ahead, so even if the process is spontenous, the Ni foresight in the story decelopment would keep it from feeling overtly spontaneous. In the early 90s though, Murakami had some sort of supernatural insight (which sounds very Ni) when he was visiting a prison camp and realized there was no excuse from taking responsibility for your community, no matter how strange; it was the horrors of the Second World War reminding him about it. But then again I don't know him very well, apart from the few books I've read. I tried three versions and after all, I cannot remember why I took the present conclusion. I'm certain that he's a 9. This is true of me, and it is true of each of you. ] You know that. His routine could be a very regimented tertiary Si, he can lead a very routine life, because in his writing the possibilities are open, he talks about writing as if it's a journey he goes on, where everything could happen and that's the fun of it, which seems like an NP way of experiencing writing, compared to the more directive INFJ. I don't want to sound like I'm making every great writer to be an INFJ though. '' There's no connection to his culture. I keep to this routine every day without variation. If you compare him with people like Mishima, Dostoyevski or Knut Hamsun, their world-view is much clearer and holistic (Ni-Fe). That, and if you put him alongside them, it just doesn't fits, although I know this is not a good point. Even the violence is dreamlike, subdued, almost gentle. As for Gaiman, I only read a couple of novels from him a long time ago (Neverwhere I believe) and from memory it doesn't feel INFJ at all. INFJs are also more directive in their speech when it comes to interviews as well. But I don't doubt that me may be an ISFP as well. Murakami's books are almost like they're written by a teenager or even a child at times, but one who says surprisingly deep stuff. They have a tendency to be drawn to strong military-like discipline. But that's not ny main point, my main point is that his plots stucture is strickingly P. Just he and I. And I'm not talking about popular fantasy writers and such (although I have my doubts about George Martin being INFP), I'm talking about writers who actually brought something of worth to the world of literature in recent times. Since then his characters have become more proactive, trying to fight the surreal things they see. '' I really like this book, and read it less than two years ago, but I really don't remember this point. Some of his works (especially wind-up bird chronicles) remind me of Lynch who is clearly Ni in my mind; and I wouldn't be surprised if most of his main characters were Ni or Ti doms. I can see INFJ. Its pretty safe to assume that he is an Fi-dom. What is the best option for the MBTI type of Haruki Murakami? What about enneagram and other personality types?. That’s why I want to write a book. '' From what I understand, Ni strives toward the best, ultimate convergent solution even when it looks ambiguous or unclear from the outside. I see the images very clearly in my mind you know like Murakami does. “It's very spontaneous, you know,” he shrugged at one point. I would agree with INFP, but the Fi-domness is not quite obvious, except in the sense that he seems to be the kind of writer that writes mostly for himself, and doesn't really try to win the reader over. But compared to someone like Myazaki, for which creating seems to be a duty towards the public, for Murakami is an inner exploration, which is for me, very INFP. The purpose of a story is to sound an alarm, to keep a light trained on The System in order to prevent it from tangling our souls in its web and demeaning them. I want to detach my mind from my body when I focus. I wonder if it's not the same with Murakami, the enneagram being a counterpart to his MBTI type. But INFP is also possible, especially regarding his way of working and his spontaneity when writing with "no clear vision" as to where he is headed. If so, there would be no association between INFP and social work. They are extroverted, idealistic, charismatic, outspoken, highly principled and ethical, and usually know how to connect!. I was just curious about what kind of world I had in. Me, as an INFP, I walk done the street and imagine houses forming a stair in the air and the blowing up like a fire-work into each-other, forming a vortex, and then the moon becoming purple and flowing candy on the street, which you can put in your mouth and it bites your tongue, and than you become a yellow-blue-and-red fish. I have a hard time seeing Murakami in the same list with such a serious writer like Mishima tough. But wouldn't 9w1 make more sense than 9w8 though. What Japanese writers influenced you. But I also read about being compared to other important Japanese writers, and a journalist points about how, compared to Mishima (INFJ), little Murakami cares about describing context. //Also, I'm sometimes weary about the actual relation of reminescence and Si, but the way he puts it make it seem very Si: ''I think memory is the most important asset of human beings. Intuitives focus on a more abstract level of thinking; they are more interested in theories, patterns, and explanations. They are often more concerned with the future than the present and are often described as creative. The childish aspect is also so INFP. build up some positive things. INFJs are supposed to be somewhat 3 times less numerous than INFPs, and INFPs are often lauded for their creativity, but it seems that in recent times no INFP has made any serious, positive impact on the world of literature, while INFJ cast their shadow on it in all kinds of various forms. There's no community anymore, and you feel like you have very little influence on your own life, because you're all caught up in these big, unruly systems no single person can comprehend completely, outside of your own control - like late-stage capitalism, democracy, etc. For Murakami it's much more personal than that). I was just a curious kid. So this disturbes me, and having the position of a writer to share one's opinions regarding wrong narrative in one's culture makes perfect sense for me. Nothing is conclusive. His development towards taking responsibility for society might also be taken as him developing his Inferior Te. For them, it's more of the issue of communicating that vision in order to be properly understood, but I don't think they see it as a exploration of their own personal world, more like an exploration of the archetypes of reality. I also forgot to mention that it seems unlikely that an INFP would be as prolific as Murakami is, whereas this is pretty common with INFJs (Anne Rice, Joyce Carol Oates, etc. I never really got an Fe vibe from his writing at all. People tend to assume that writers are only intuitive feelers. Discover Array, and more, famous people, fictional characters and celebrities here!. If I know who the killer is, there’s no purpose to writing the story. 1Q84 can imo also be read as some sort of new founding myth for how to live your life in modern society. Gaiman, of course, started out as a kind of devil's advocate thing that became kind of addicting, lol. ''The things and the people come to me automatically. If there were a novelist who, for whatever reason, wrote works standing with the wall, of what value would such works be. People tend to assume that writers are only intuitive feelers. But I'm always aware of the many levels of depth in it. As for his bar, it was actually a jazz-bar and he loved jazz, so there is no contradiction between one's passions and work there. dangerous sometimes. It's not impossible, I think, but where is the passion in his life choices (Fi) - and wouldn't it have been really difficult and unpleasant for an Inferior Te user to run a bar. '' Also, commenting on some of your points: ''Whereas in Kafka on the Shore (older Murakami) the main character decides to leave a magical forest he has been hiding in and accept responsibility for a murder he did not commit simply because that is what society needs of him. Every person’s preference can be found on a spectrum, so just choose the letter you identify with most.. Which is what makes them interesting as a type, this very combination of irrational and mystical creativity and of a deep thinking process. The literary establishment in his country hated him at first, but that is long past now. I always feel that everything is changeable in my fiction. Very interesting. His routine could be a very regimented Si and references to food and music could be interpreted Si as well, I don't get a strong impression of the taste of food from his books for example as I would expect with Se, it's more like it's the mundane aspect of those things that he's interested rather than the sensory aspect, in the sense of making his world familiar despite all the weirdness in it by making references to everyday things. What is in this barn. Yeah, your description of Ni seems right to me. If someone would give me a good proof of Fi-dom for Murakami I would be really happy, because I love Kafka on The Shore and his crazy ideas. Maybe he tries to explain the puzzling way his imagination works, I mean I'm quite puzzled myself how I can come with these things one after another, or I imagine the interior world as a cave but in my mind it has already taken a specific shape and a certain shade a green, the cave is a good representation, but where does the shape and color just came from. My reasons for seeing Murakami as an INFJ have been bothering me for a while though, so I guess I'm just arguing to see whether other people think my reasons hold and to see how they will react. Don't forget Auster wanted to be a filmmaker when living in paris in his youth. On the other hand I strongly believe that a free-associative, spontaneous creative process, or elements of it, does not automatically make an INFP. That is what I would call lack of nuance. I felt that conclusion was the most natural at the time. To clarify some points, I don't think social commitment has to be NFJ. I for example have this thing about how Vlad Tepes is seen a hero and even moral example in my country, because he served 'justice', and this thing that we can't recognize that just because someone did allot of good for the well being of his country, it doesn't change the fact that some of his actions were beyond any kind of human decency.
. Like with Nietzsche or Marx, they were very confident in how they thought history will turn out to be (even when they missed their mark), and saw themselves as prophetic figures, yet you can ask many people who read them what they were all about, and you can get vastly different interpretations. An escape from the outer world into a personal world where everything could happen. I wanted to escape from this culture; I felt it was boring. '' This is a quote that sounds more Fi, specially the last part where he says the novelists job is to clarify the uniqueness of each individual soul. In this site you can find out which of the 16 types this character 'Haruki Murakami' belongs to!. Because the young Murakami has not taken responsibility, he is helpless to their whims. There's controversy about him being nominated for a Nobel, and one of the main reasons against is that he doesn't represent any unified overall view about his own culture. Murakami's philosophical passages tend to be more argumentative, in a way that's either Ne or tertiary Ti. I have an INFP 9w8 friend who's a big fan, and she always gets INTP with 50/50 T/F on online tests. Maybe he's on an Fi-Si loop. This can be interpreted as his Fe skepticism towards modern society, but it could also be indicative of him being an INFP. I think it reminds me of Wong Kar Wai's movies actually, which also full of fleeting imagery and atmospheric feelings more than ideas. Overall, it seems that Murakami it's always the story, that is, the weird events the characters face, that is the priority. It could be different. I'm pretty sure I would remember something like that. “I write what I want to write, and I’ll find what I want to write while I’m writing. I hesitate between INFJ and INFP. But the whole accepting responsibility for murder he did not commit. I think there's something soft (or dreamy) about violence in Murakami's work. But at the same time, I feel it's at my finger, I can control it how I want, but Murakami speaks like if the images come in his mind and he has no choice about it. High school students read him, and every book he writes is eagerly awaited. Also the fact that he says he doesn't remember why he choose that version, I think INFJs would have a very good idea of what's the role of every part of their work, specially the ending. I think this is the most conclusive thing about him being Ne and Ni that I found, from an interview: ''When I wrote Hard-Boiled Wonderland, I had no idea how to finish it. Imo, if he was INFJ he probably wouldn't have this discussion, because he would have made his points clearer. You are in the best place to test MBTI and learn what type Haruki Murakami likely is!. Or maybe he's a more reserved ENFP who knows. I also always had trouble reconciling the extremely intense way Murakami writes about food, music, running marathons, etc. Well, it's true, just as Lynch speaks (Transcendatal meditation is probably the reason for it) of an inspiration which seems Ni (no control on it etc), Murakami masters his imagination troughout his tough physical and work routine. I love that bizarre oneness that makes me feel like even though the world is an absurd place, everything is still connected. I always pictured INFJs as not being afraid to spoil their inspiration by reasoning on it. I think I'm basically arguing that Murakami might be Fe-ing INFP-ness in reaction to the overtly conservative Japanese establishment (when he was a young man), and is thus representing his own culture anyway (Fe). They were both very interested in Western culture and what it was doing t Japan, have a similar sense of humor, and also typically have slacker main characters. I would disagree that his writing lacks Fi sort of passion. I can see the NP, but I the Fi-dominance is not that obvious. I also have a somewhat hard time imagining an INFP starting his own bar in his early 20s and running it happily for a decade before mundanely deciding to become a writer one random day. I write the book because I would like to find out. Herman Hesse on the other hand, I read Steppenwolf and it's quite Murakami and David Lynch like, at least in the later pages it's just full Murakami meets Lynch crazyness. You say he's a Fi-dom for sure. But now, I think that was. Repetition, not trying new things. But he speaks about his imagination like it's automatic, ''a black box to which he doesn't have conscious access''. The "making up as you go" that Murakami describes his process as definitely reflects in the stories themselves. I mesmerize myself to reach a deeper state of mind. when I was in my early thirties. Even when not in control or planning, INxJ more or less consciously have a strong confidence about what they're doing. Anyway the quotes are interesting in themselves. Quiet, reflective, and idealistic. Interested in serving humanity. Well-developed value system, which they strive to live in accordance with.. ''I: So you’ve never felt, at any point in your career, that you were part of any community of writers. An INxJ writer, although potentially contemplative, would be more "powerful" in a way, like Mishima, there would be intense eruption of violence. The unconscious definitely has a part in it, and it takes two steps ahead of me. Welcome to MBTIBase - PersonalityBase, here you can learn about Haruki Murakami MBTI type.. "Yes, no matter how right the wall may be and how wrong the egg, I will stand with the egg. But I think somewhere along the way, the true nature of INFJ/INFP creativity has been obfuscated. I'd rather compare Murakami to INFP people like Auster, Jim Jarmusch, Wong Kar Wai etc, than INFJs. Myiazaki, probably INFJ, starts making movies without having a finishes script, yet Princess Mononoke or Spirited Away didn't fell spontaneous, the plot felt very well put together, even boring in conventionalty. His books are also shorter and fewer, more traditionally poetic (he started out as a poet), less in touch with his culture, and more autobiographical. I'm not voting yet. Btw, do you think there can be commercially driven Ni-dom authors, that don't take themselves so seriously as intellectuals. But I can't think of anyone. ” Maybe some INFJ artist (although he doesn't consider himself an artist) try to analyze their mental images that much because they think it's counter-productive to their imagination, the same thing could be with David Lynch. I want to be able to escape from my body. :( His books seem somewhat lacking in passion for a Fi-dom, but I'm not sure, it's not like he's the most socially conscious INFJ. To be honest I just can't see him having Fe function wise. His stories have also started bringing up problems in society a lot more and he is going for more varied characters, trying to better represent society almost like a realist writer. Yeah I thought that too, but maybe they're not as analytical because they believe it could be counter-productive to their creativity, compared to an INFJ philosopher, for example who needs to be analytical. Specifically in Murakami's case I feel the evidence is slightly in favor of INFJ. The image is always there in the back of the mind, but it comes of as surrounded by fog in the begining and they try to get closer to it until it becomes clear. I have trouble picturing an INFP who likes routine that much (more than the physical aspect of it). Reading about critics impressions, the very open plots of even his most ambitious works is noticed, and this is a xxxP type writer characteristic. '' This quote is very Intuition over Sensing, I don't think any SP would think about exercises this way, for them it's more about being in touch with their body I would say. It would be like with Bob Dylan, where people where putting all kinds of interpretation over his work no matter how much he denied it. Would be good to have a discussion. In Kafka on the Shore, he starts several new ideas along the story, but none of them is explored un much depth, and at the end it looks like the story stops. Reading about his strict routine in one of the posts longer down on this page, and feeling my own arguments support INFJ more strongly, I've voted INFJ. I feel like both seem like both types, depending on how you look at it. Dont't know him that well but it doesn't sound INFP at all. Murakami on the influence Japanese literature had on him:'' Interviewer: Who were your models. When I think INFJ, I think Dante Aligheri, Herman Hesse, Yukio Mishima. My memory is like a chest: There are so many drawers in that chest, and when I want to be a fifteen-year-old boy, I open up a certain drawer and I find the scenery I saw when I was a boy in Kobe. I was just like a little boy finding. He is really tricky to type in my opinion. Life becomes meaningful if you develop small, peaceful communities within overarching society, but you have to be careful not to be sucked into destructive attempts at building new communities on top of late-capitalism - such a cults, a favorite concern of the more recent Murakami. '' Also, this doesn't quite fit with Ni: M: ''When I start to write a story, I don’t know the conclusion at all and I don’t know what’s going to happen next. From an article/interview:''Most disconcertingly, perhaps, he gives the impression of being just as baffled by his own wayward, metaphysical fiction as his readers are. ”//''What I’m doing is writing my realism, my real world. I read a funny review of his books whose author hates the way he uses words like "pretty" and "really" as modifiers and ended up calling his prose "pretty poor. Still, I'm afraid like I made it sound like I was too convinced of INFP (if anyone even bothered to read all that): At the end of the day, Murakami still writes books full of strange, random things happening (Ne) and tends to spend an awful lot of time on mundane details, like cooking spaghetti or washing the stove (Si. *try not to analyze their mental images that muchAs I'm writing this I admit I'm not happy. As opposed to getting frustrated about it like Kafka (Fi), Murakami tries to make the best of things, listening to records, falling in love, basically avoiding responsibility.
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