Hillary Clinton Myers-Brigs type - MBTI, enneagram and personality type info
She is instead a 5w6. They may act as if it is inevitable or as good as having occurred already, and become very childish. Because the fact I have to reason every single point is annyoing and meticulus to me(Ti). Others forms of vid documentary, liver interview are suffice. But DD reasoning and acting doesn't match xNTJ. i feel like they're there, but they don't get translated in her words. TV ads are still very useful; Trump used them as well. )INTJ http://www. The intellectual style of the open person may serve a professor well, but research has shown that closed thinking is related to superior job performance in police work, sales, and a number of service occupations. I really don't think you grasp the Bebe model. To me it looks accurate overall, but when delve deeper and look into more minor details, there is a lot of inaccuracies. You inserted your own opinion about why she lost and used it to guide an idea you created of her having no clue about why shereally lost, turning this theory not into a matter ofpreference, but a matter ofability. She acts like she knows the exact reason she lost the election by pointing multiple factors and weird analogy "like covering up the Pearl Harbor"(she doesn't real know why she lost). (Ni inferior btw) He thinks he should be president, because he thinks he can. Apart from a few social issues she's a total disasterThats quite naive of you to think that. Not everyone you dislike is an S. She didn't bother going campaigning some other states in the final days. She's clearly ESTJ, indeed. Interpret it how you will, but I will assume she's being honest because she has demonstrated signs of discomfort as a politician to the point where I would even say she's not really made to be on stage—where other politicians live and own it, Hillary is a step removed from her audience and doesn't connect with them in a way which would suggest she’s inherently oriented towards the outer world. I'd be interested to see why you think ESTJ. There's compromising your opinions and then there's not staying true to yourself. Te makes her action oriented but her Si makes her reluctant to challenge status quo and keeping things the way they are working. High scorers on adventurousness are eager to try new activities, travel to foreign lands, and experience different things. She looks xSTJ 3 cause she is. I don't really imagine someone sensing-leaning writing these:https://www. The 7th function either direct at others or themselves to give a sense of relief. Tertiary Ne even supports the fact she thinks shes a female therefore she is entitle to become a president and breaking the glass seal. She had always been on the defensive. Regardless, that should still apply to Ni vs. She is clearly Te. Her behavior on election night was extremely ESTJ in the saddest way possible. I can see you are saying she does plan things ahead, but in what approach. She also mentions having a positive outlook on the future, which leads me to believe that she is not intuition inferior, as intuition inferior would be more fearful of the unknown. No one has ever said that Hillary changes her views "to fit in", even if Hillary Clinton might change her statements in order to win. In Jung's conception, she's definitely an extraverted thinking type but that isn't MBTI. You could call it 3, but it would be political suicide to expose your true views on everything. But I don't really even think she's a 3 (she'd be wing 2 if she were, not wing 4) and feel like it's more "situational" for her than it is ingrained in her personality. And if she was an ISTJ or INTJ, then that makes her defeat even more tragic or in my opinion comical. Based off of her book, INFJ, she clearly saw the evils in our country and tried to defend us from them. There's a reason she didn't give her concession speech until the next day. She wants to break the glass ceiling. Si (although I am ideologically opposed to using cognitive functions to type as I think most of the conclusions people draw are superfluous). If Hillary was 3w2 that explains her coat tailing her husband Bill Clinton and continuing Obama era of progressive if that makes any sense. You're not wrong about J being less novel than P though, which is why openness in Big 5 is strongly N and P together, but the actual idea of "novelty" doesn't inherently describe perceiving even though there's a decent overlap; seeking out new and original ways to do things is not perceiving related, it's how intuition is defined. But you've not only applied the idea of "novelty" in the funniest way here but you're also explaining how "novelty," an intuitive concept, is supposed to justify her being a sensor. Nonetheless, Intellect is probably best regarded as one aspect of openness to experience. 7th function Ni. Although I am pretty sure he was being tongue in cheek, that Hillary is a sore-loser, and doesn't want to lose. Like I said her opinions change with the times. Open people are intellectually curious, appreciative of art, and sensitive to beauty. Every ESTJ I can think of tends to be power-hungry or hungry for control. It seems to me that she is primarily concerned with advancing society with her own beliefs Te-Fi. Inferior Fi, she support things she actually says both on or off campaign. But at the same time she is always seems to be concern covering her weakness in the front of the media. Wouldn't all presidential candidates be idealistic. They need to fix that. Your argument for 3 is valid but again, I don't think it's because she's actually 3 but it's rather her adjusting to her climate. I don't think she even really looks particularly xSTJ 3, though. What is the best option for the MBTI type of Hillary Clinton? What about enneagram and other personality types?. ” I don’t think she’s particularly image-oriented at all but does have a strong sense of knowing what’s right (which isn’t overpowered by her detached, academic and information-gathering side — yes, I think she without a doubt has this when you consider how she’s built up her image). I can even go further that say she is Fi inferior because she constantly gets caught lying, i. Most of her campaign was her donor, news reporter, and famous hollywood actor. High scorers on this scale use fantasy as a way of creating a richer, more interesting world. Above all, she takes a more studious "think-tankish" technocratic approach to politics even when it distances herself from the public. Low scorers lack aesthetic sensitivity and interest in the arts. Leading enneagram 3w4 so/sp. Another characteristic of the open cognitive style is a facility for thinking in symbols and abstractions far removed from concrete experience. I agree with gary, though I see ENTJ at a level too. * Of course in their own tritype respective. N has to do with being more abstract than concrete and more idea-oriented. org/my-mbti-personality-type/mbti-basics/sensing-or-intuition. I don't have a strong opinion of her enneagram type, but those are my thoughts exactly on the MBTI side. She might be: 5w6 1w2 3w2. Ni will be more like Donald Trump. I am not a cyber bully lol. She honestly seems to be a type 5 pretending to be a 1 who comes off as a 3, but I would guess all three of those are in her tritype. My point is it has to be inspiring, move people, convince them and promise change. She reminds me of an unhealthy 3, unable to cope with loss. Openness Facets. If you enjoyed this entry, find out about the personality types of Politicans and Leaders characters list.. So I think ESTJ. I don't really feel "sensing" based on what she's written. This is an obvious ESTJ trying to behave like an ESTP. Even the "killary" cartoon villain that people on the right and some on the far-left have created strikes me as an xNTJ. She's an academic at heart who over years in the public eye programmed her robotic self to be somewhat presentable as a politician, but she excessively relies on knowledge rather than charisma or manipulation (she leaves that to other people to do on her behalf). This is strange—so you yourself redefined what "intuition" and "sensing" means in MBTI terms to suit something it means to you personally. Psychological conservatives prefer the security and stability brought by conformity to tradition. Trump was better than me. "—taken from the Myers-Briggs website). Low scorers are less aware of their feelings and tend not to express their emotions openly. It's absolutely wacky, too, considering you're supposed to be an xNTJ, not an ExFP. "Trump was better than me" would be a downright bizzarre thing to say. I'd say if the data doesn't fit, then disregard it until further notice. I find this super funny, DiamondDust, because I feel like you've exhibited signs of these points much more than I have, fitting your own worldview into these models that simply don't reflect what MBTI types are in order to type people using MBTI. They may regard the arts and sciences with suspicion, regarding these endeavors as abstruse or of no practical use. Where I think sensors are naturally oriented toward realism and see stretching out into the ideational side of things second, intuitives see orient themselves toward ideas and think of pragmatism as a secondary trait, something I see Hillary having an easier time doing being both strongly “thinking” and “judging. Intellect shouldnotbe equated with intelligence. Or I cop-out she just have very poor memory, but that wouldn't do no good for getting a good typing of her. Her tactic is nearly the same as Trump, but the difference is that she is a bad player. He is acting more like an xNFP than me based on his own comment. I'm unsure if ENTJ or INTJ works better, but she's not a senser either (for basically the same reasons). it's just an intuition vibe i guessI made a minor mistake: She is 8w9 compare to Trump who is more of 8w7. John Beebe may have made 16 "archetypes" that happen to share the same names of Myers and Briggs' 16 personality types but don't be deceived; they're actually radically different. She's not ethical like a 1, not image-conscious like a 3 (she can be really "out of touch"), and doesn't seem to be careful like a 6 or aggressive like an 8. " undertones that vaguely point to introverted intuition, where she seems to have ideas that she doesn't really explain so well. Inferior Fi, she support things she actually says both on or off campaign. I also think it's uncommon for SJs to go all that far outside of their traditional role, and, with her being a woman growing up in the 1950's in a very conservative family, her role would certainly not have included the presidency. Read the book "What Happened. It doesn't matter. I was struggling to figure out her enneagram. To deal her ego she makes herself look Ni-dom. She is saying she is innocent and was hard working and everyone else were being shady and blindside her, including the DNC. Ne focus on alternate possibilty based on already developed/accepted concept/criterion. So it's possible for her to be president and being secretary of defense its safe to assume she knows best of USA(Si). Just like what you are doing it now. Not only is this hilariously reductionistic of my actual view on function theory but it's also simplifying Beebe's explanation of it to terms where I'm unable to actually pull the concept of a "trickster function" out of what you're trying to articulate. She doesn't speak like she writes anyways. I'm fucking wheezing you can't be serious Why did you pull my words out of context. like just her upbringing and academic background and political involvement all makes me think she's more likely than not someone who is more in tune with intuition than sensing. as for intuition and sensing, i lean intuition mainly because she just seems to be more in tune with ideas than facts themselves. She's an academic at heart who over years in the public eye programmed her robotic self to be somewhat presentable as a politician, but she excessively relies on knowledge rather than charisma or manipulation (she leaves that to other people to do on her behalf). You try so hard to understand human sociology, and reasoning so much. My verdict is based on the fact that she was trying succeed and life and try to be a role model to young women. Your level of adventurousness is $flev. I feel like if I typed Hillary by how she seemed at face value I'd also arrive at something like xSTJ 3 but there is more to her background that I believe you're overlooking. Openness is often presented as healthier or more mature by psychologists, who are often themselves open to experience. You're trying to bind me [I feel confused or lost with technical variables and project it onto you] so I'm going to bind you with individually understood technical details. Not only that I think Hillary is more of a sensor, and most sensor/thinking orientated tends to be 6 or specifically 6w5. Whether you go by functions or letters. I'm unsure if ENTJ or INTJ works better, but she's not a senser either (for basically the same reasons). " They make this remark to protect themselve. The DNC and RNC. htmIt's there3. She is Si everywhere. They regard intellectual exercises as a waste of time. She is one of the politicians who (in debates and interviews, not in speeches) seems the most focused on how a particular discussion is framed. 3w2's are supposed to be more people oriented (sort of like MBTI Fe-doms), 3w4's are more serious, task-oriented. It's also contradictory since it also says they think through things more. And @Debaser, why do you see her as an introvert. How does it feel. These are self-assessments and the way you're describing it implies Ns can't not be open. I think she is ESTJ. I think with her being introverted (and judging), this is something that comes to her more naturally than her competitors and makes her able to cope with her sphere’s demand for being “perfect. But of course I can easily justify an ExFP typing for you by using "trickster Ti" to describe your "cognitive thought process. But it's only your secondary trait(aux Fi tert Te). INTP 7th function Se "lol look at this guy trying to be. You don't need the news for your daily news. Donald Trump sees twitter is a the new platau of social media, it can allow him to bypass the newsmedia (strong Se mofo), where is Hillary Se. Fascinating—so if I score "extraversion," "intuition," and "judging" on the official Myers-Briggs test, I will necessarily do this. She is instead a 5w6. You try so hard to understand human sociology, and reasoning so much. "Hillary is an academic at heart and awkwardly shapes herself to suit the character who she needs to be to win the presidential election""I will assume she's being honest""but does have a strong sense of knowing what’s right". High scorers on this scale love beauty, both in art and in nature. but her using what can be interpreted as te more in our public eye is what makes it hard to see either in her. " Hardy har har. Again, not really an N thing. They prepare their speeches, it has to convince people, ofc it will sound like that. Your level of imagination is $flev. edu/events/commencement/archives/1969commencement/studentspeechhttps://www. Again, you've turned this into a matter of ability rather than preference, and you're projecting the extent of my knowledgeability about sociology through a function model. She acts very 3, 5 is there but not nearly as much. To me Hillary Clinton is a stress out ESTJ. The statement you just proposed is self-evidence. Such a blatant ESTJ it hard to miss. To put it simple: Hillary, "I am not saying its your fault that I lost, but it is your fault that I lost. she lacks trump's whole schtick with manipulating and controlling her environment, instead relying on her previous knowledge to answer questions. High Openness to Experience. If she takes too seriously, she is a whacko. Ye, my favorite. If we're gonna use letters. Regardless, she's clearly an N if you look at her at all before she entered politics. If I am off, then I rechecked my typing. Low scorers are on this scale are more oriented to facts than fantasy. High scorers on Intellect love to play with ideas. They don't look anything like Hillary Clinton. You can point to superfluous things like "she ran a relatively traditional campaign" or "her political views are pretty normal" to say that she exhibits SJ qualities, but the fact is throughout her career she has been oriented towards trying to change as much as possible. in that video i can't really say much more than xxtj like there isn't anything particularly intuiting or sensing there and nor do i really get much of introversion or extraversion out of iti think she's most definitely te leading -- at least in front of an audience -- and probably why her intuition becomes obscured, but i don't think her being te dominant necessarily means that she's extraverted. where do y'all get extraversion from. If anything, she seems to have somewhat of a drive to correct others' ways of doing things, but she's definitely malleable in this regard and I would agree she isn't really consistent enough to be a type 1. An NJ being more interested in novelty than an SP is just hilarious. A 5 wouldn't rely so heavily on slander and lash out at people for losing. I repeat going back and forth to get an accurate type of the person. If this is intimidated, the person will then try to bind the other person with negative premonitions of what will happen. And under the assumption she does this, why is it something 5s couldn't heavily rely on. Accuses others of being stuck in the models and frameworks they have learned or adapted. Hillary is a pragmatist but there’s no reason to believe she’s naturally oriented toward pragmatism in a way that “sensing” would necessarily behest rather than her just being logical, practical and aware of social boundaries like a introverted, thinking judger would be. If Hillary Clinton were xSTJ, I would think she would be ISTJ. And finally, Hillary was Secretary of State not Secretary of Defense. i think now she could be 3 leading when you look at her as a politician but she may just be playing pretend and could be 5 or 1 first with a 3-fix maybe. She also use $1,2 billion during the campaign. She acts like she knows the exact reason she lost the election by pointing multiple factors and weird analogy "like covering up the Pearl Harbor"(she doesn't real know why she lost).
. Move on its current year. For the sake of discussion, anyone got an argument for N. She is probably that one. You are so fixiated with data(Si). Mitt Romney is ESTJ too, he can't connect with people either. I personally feel that her lack of genuineness, ideological purity, and perceived unethical and ruthless tendencies were primarily criticized by Ss and Fs. I first try to get an overall image of the person by observing which function appears more frequently, and which one is most likely fit that cognitive approach. So yeah I am willingly to accept criticism of my typing. Having a vagina is the best credential. She’s bookish and internal, showing off herself to the world in a restricted fashion she puts herself into both as a consequence of the field she is working in and as a consequence of her personality. So here's the most detailed description of trickster Ti I could find:. If you have Se you will realize, nowadays tv is not needed for campaign. We'll never really know since she's a politician and a fairly private one at that, but I don't see her as a 3 for reasons I've explained before. She's certainly much more intellectual than the average secondary Si user. Si auxiliary, she project herself as someone who believe and support the congress. "Not staying true to yourself" isn't really a good indicator of sensing to me all. Although they respect (tertiary Te), they felt it too conflicted (trickster Ti). I can only guarantee the validity of this as far as I fit the description they gave very well myself. They are extroverted, idealistic, charismatic, outspoken, highly principled and ethical, and usually know how to connect!. But anyway let's not derailed the thread. But that is because I don't see the point of it. Regardless of inferior Fi. Definitely ESTJ. but her most used functions imo might be te, ni and si, probably with some fe and possibly a little bit of ne too. Hillary is an academic at heart and awkwardly shapes herself to suit the character who she needs to be to win the presidential election: the to-be first female president of the United States. I don't really see why speaking and writing should be any different when it's the same person behind them both. ESTJ tritype 368. You are so fixiated with data(Si). She doesn't want to explicit I believe it w/o losing any less recognition. Let me also point out that - and I'm trying to avoid being political - Hillary Clinton's analytical tendencies, strategies, and ideas found staunch defenders in people from weird, ideologically different corners - Henry Kissinger, Paul Krugrman, George Soros, Barack Obama, Bill Weld - people who are almost universally agreed to be xNTx. Ignored the clickbait title. You can really only make out TJ from her on stage and guess 3 because she's a politician but I don't think her first two letters are obvious, and for good reason when you consider electability. Here an example of ExFP stressed 7th function Ti appears "lol you still used that mumbo jumbo function magic of yours lol". I wonder, what do people think a very disingenuous xNTJ would look like if NOT like Hillary. It's just a weird and pointless thing to say. I do believe she has a strong 3 side but I don't believe it's her core type simply because she doesn't strike me as someone who lives their life to be recognized and valued or have an essential fear rooted in worthlessness. " Everything has to go back to her. Read the book "What Happened. I don't see any Ni in her because her quotes are mostly focused on hard work and the common good rather than vision and foresight. But she twisted it to achieve it. So ENxJs "protect themselves" by insisting on removing weight on past mistakes. Ask yourself: is Myers-Briggs really meant to measure "cognitive ability". An INTJ wouldn't do that, they'd be much more of a visionary. What other things she needs to lack faith there of. Being a politician, Hillary knows how to act and plays a safe campaign because she is aware of how politics work and how nominees are elected; you may look at this as "Si" but this is exactly where function theory and types begin to disconnect from one another. " We should focus most on Hillary when she's NOT campaigning, because she is likely to be most genuine then. And that explains why she really wants to be the first female president in USA and breaks the glass sealing. Psychological liberalism refers to a readiness to challenge authority, convention, and traditional values. As for 3w4 leading. The fact she didn't appear during the concession speech and tells Podesta, instead is very weak Fi. Now without that my other option would of been ISTJ, but I don't think Hillary is weak on the Ne. It's funny strawberry that you try to project me: "That xNTJ is this very emotionless know it all. i don't see hillary as someone who gets energized by being around people but more as someone who deals with it in order to accomplish her goals. People opposed to Hillary Clinton more often portray her as scheming and Machiavellian than they do simple and unsophisticated. Did you not read your own post "double bound". She much more openly exhibits N-tendencies in this 1979 interview:. Can you logically tell me why N would have to do with openness. She'll be whatever type she has to to get elected. Ti is my 5th function. She is 100x better than that clown. They are open-minded to new and unusual ideas, and like to debate intellectual issues. She doesn't seem like someone caught up in explaining facts and details for what they are rather than someone who would be more willing to extrapolate and theorize based on her written work—this is an N thing, unlike being "idealistic" which could mean anything depending on context. seems more 3w4 than anythingShe's energetic but she doesn't know how to connect with or relate to people at all. Her campaign is based on the 1990s. Anyway when I try to typed someone. But on the other hand she is actually very realistic in her approach. Thinking – Feeling, represents how a person processes information. Thinking means that a person makes a decision mainly through logic.. A Nazi endorsing his favorite candidate. She is saying, "Yes its my fault. I then go other website sources and rechecked them with mine to get a more accurate type. even if she speaks quite well in public it seems very prepared. Persons high on Emotionality have good access to and awareness of their own feelings. Intellectuals typically score high on Openness to Experience; consequently, this factor has also been calledCultureorIntellect. her body language and practically theatrical reservedness reveals her cerebrality and, in my opinion, her introversion. However, open and closed styles of thinking are useful in different environments. They prefer the plain, straightforward, and obvious over the complex, ambiguous, and subtle. She seems to do the latter. I'm going for ESTJ. Discover Array, and more, famous people, fictional characters and celebrities here!. "Ni as trickster shadows Ne as child. Anyway enough about me. but her judging is obvious in a way you can call it self-dictating: she plans ahead, she memorizes, she rehearses, and she tries to get her words down perfectly -- but never in a convincing manner. I even consider 5w6, but after watching the "Why I am not 50 points ahead. ExFP's: All this archetype stuff ("puers trigger witches", etc. Clinton is a 3, not a 5. Your level of liberalism is $flev. my argument for that dichotomy is honestly just gonna be she's not very sensing compared to being somewhat intuiting. Hillary Clinton's "experience" argument reflects SJ (Si function) values, but that really just seems like a better campaign tactic than "vote for me because I am smart enough to know what's wrong America. So far as I understand the trickster function really wouldn't often be confused for the dominant function. To be honest I just focus the 2016 election only. The media states she has 95% chance. The internet will suffice. 7th function Ni. You’ve actually made a better argument for ENTJ than ESTJ here since your reasoning for Ne would indicate N while your reasoning for Si doesn’t indicate S You're getting too political, but let me just say that this is the first election where I have ever heard it described as the loser's "fault" for losing. Anyway 3rd times the charm in 2020. org/my-mbti-personality-type/mbti-basics/sensing-or-intuition. I also am willingly to admit that I type people with a broad stroke. This may seem ESFJ, but in her other quotes she talks about her beliefs and doesn't mention how society fits in with that. I'm not saying she's 3 cause she's running for president. Well, maybe the word "whiny" is the more accurate description of her. A 5 cares about intellectual honesty and finding truth. You're projecting something onto me that doesn't exist lol Here is why she is Ni 7th function:. Welcome to MBTIBase - PersonalityBase, here you can learn about Hillary Clinton MBTI type.. I have no concrete proofs but I always saw her as a I. You actually don't get campaigning that well. I am glad you asked. " Hardy har har. But if you read about Hillary Clinton in her youth she was very interested in developing her own political philosophy (those are great picks for documents showing that). Ni focus only based on current surrounding (Se). ExFP’s Might feel ‘double-bound’ by variable logical principles and use them to trap others or be silly. Adventurousness. Move on its current year. Are you blind. She is playing the idea of Russian influencing the election. Could be so but I was asking that question to isolate the debate of S vs NShe's not an E either. Did you not see the 2016 election. Fair enough—I think you're totally justified in believing it. Si auxiliary, she project herself as someone who believe and support the congress. Back to Hillary. Everyone was telling Hillary was great. Caught up in pointing out others’ inconsistencies, with a dogmatic tendency to adhere to one principle rather than seeing its distinctions. I'm unsure if ENTJ or INTJ works better, but she's not a senser either (for basically the same reasons). her style seems kind of fact oriented, but she doesn't really speak with just facts in mind -- she talks about a "vision" she sees, and she doesn't refute her opponent by picking apart their argument with facts just as they are (as i would imagine a sensor to. And here's what Beebe had to say about trickster Ti:. The irony is that you are ENFP to boot. I see her approach of planning Te. Your level of emotionality is $flev. Here, if you can't see Ni in Hillary, you might be too focused on her recent image. Also extravert means you are loud and boisterous. And she deserves it. Novelty is more correlated to Ne rather Ni. She been campaign and political activist for her entire life. To imaginative individuals, the real world is often too plain and ordinary. Hillary is a very strong judger: she's disciplined, she knows the rules, and she looks at the world in a way that is "set" with conventions and the status-quo triumphing over new and radical ideas, but sensing would only come into play if she truly had a lack of consideration for such ideas and avoided them because of their intrinsic sense of absurdity rather than, perhaps, her looking at these ideas and deprioritizing them because she doesn't believe they'll be accepted by the world around her, something I'm inclined to believe she's more like. I guess I get what you're saying at the end. Of course being educated doesn't make you an N (although I am not 100% sold that Mitt Romney is an ESTJ either; I really don't know enough and what I have seen could go either way). She even tries to be a cool grandma, which comes out being cringy at best. She's not ethical like a 1, not image-conscious like a 3 (she can be really "out of touch"), and doesn't seem to be careful like a 6 or aggressive like an 8. You are curious, imaginative, and creative. Everyone's opinions are subject to changing, but judging exactly how much her actual opinions are changing isn't an easy thing to gauge considering she's wearing a public mask. She thought hey if I make some live twitter, maybe I am hip and hop too(Ne tertiary). Free in-depth and practical information on the 16 personality types, including careers and relationships.. So I'll go with what's been demonstrated to be true. Js care more about things being the same. Writing about sexism doesn't make it easier to integrate to 7 or does it. Please tell me if you disagree with anything I’ve highlighted. May make statements or believe in ideas that are contradictory and illogical and project this on others. This mean ENFP feels conflicted. When ENTJ(along ENFJ) stressed 7th function Si appears "Lol you still bring this old stuff. Scores on Openness to Experience are only modestly related to years of education and scores on standard intelligent tests. Novelty is more correlated to Ne rather Ni. HC will do and say anything in order to win, very 3 like. Feels confused or lost with technical variables and projects it onto others. ENTJ can be like that too though. com/documents/HillaryClintonThesis. 6w5 and 8w9 are the others. Like she probably felt deep inside what is the point of me projecting myself across the media. Good examples of SJs in the recent world of politics are George H. She does and says anything to win and she was so torn after losing she wrote a book about it blaming others. I was struggling to figure out her enneagram. Bush, John Kasich, Rand Paul, Rick Santorum, Martin O'Malley, Lincoln Chafee, Jim Gilmore, Mike Pence, Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, Barbara Bush, Michelle Obama, Darrell Castle, etc. This is probably a prime example of distorting unrelated theories to suit a particular narrative that's meant to translate to something that doesn't suit what you believe it is meant to suit. I think if she at her core sought to achieve and be valued, we'd still see such an attitude even now that's she's not in the running. It's fair to type her 3 for it but I don't think it really represents who she actually is. (Seriously, look it up. But others are more to blame. She is 8w7 compare to Trump who is more of 8w9. I think she's direct, pragmatic, realistic, and a go-getter, but in no way does she show off those traits in a way that would suggest she's an extraverted sensor. And you might be right she might be a possible introversion, that I didn't pick up, because as I stated I only went the most recent of her in 2016+. She feels in control. She is instead a 5w6. the problem with your argument is that you apply your functions anywhere in this sorta arbitrary manner -- what says something is leading, auxiliary, tertiary, or inferior and why do certain (not necessarily even consistent) mannerisms get tied to the functions that way. Not to barge in the middle of the conversation since I don't know a whole lot about Hillary, but @strawberry crisis, since you're proposing she's INTJ, here's a link describing her as such with regards to body language, just Ctrl+F her name: (http://cognitivetype. " They make this remark to protect themselve. Finally, if you consider Hillary Clinton to be cruel in campaigning, all that indicates is "T", which I'm pretty sure everyone already agrees on. Imaginativeness using multiple possibilities is a playful, childlike endeavor. I agree with this but I think her 3 side is more situational and inspired by her wanting to achieve her goal of being president. Can you give me a basic reason why you think Hillary is an INTJ 5w6. Haha, that debaser is a joke. i'm not really sure. Your score on Openness to Experience is high, indicating you enjoy novelty, variety, and change. Intellect and artistic interests are the two most important, central aspects of openness to experience. Do you consider that's her Te overriding/resisting Fi. He is acting more like an xNFP than me based on his own comment. You are in the best place to test MBTI and learn what type Hillary Clinton likely is!. Actually, neither E nor S make any sense to me whatsoever. They are not necessarily artistically trained nor talented, although many will be. I might be off 1 or 2 enneagram, because that is more of my blindspot of not taking too much considering, and only focusing things the major appropriate stacking. Your score on Openness to Experience is low, indicating you like to think in plain and simple terms. "Believe in and support the congress" could be true for anyone; and even then I don't know to what exactly you are refferring with regard to Hillary. by the letters i think she's i, n, t and j with t and j obviously being the strongest. I don't know what I expected, but that wasn't it. Another reason why she isn't Ni, because she wants to be a novelty(the first female US president). i could maybe accept sensing, but there is no way she's extraverted being so secretive, private, and almost "unnatural" in front of an audience. In this site you can find out which of the 16 types this character 'Hillary Clinton' belongs to!. It's fascinating to me that you're justifying an ESTJ typing by referring to a "7th function" in a completely different model and don't explain its actual manifestation well at all, instead using shaky, meaningless and cherrypicked examples in an effort to explain it. Elaborate on the Si part. "They think through things more"might be a context thing; it likely means thinking through more possibilities rather than acting in a way that would necessarily be cautious or restrained. Hillary Clinton already build her career as a lawyer, senate, secretary. In its most extreme form, psychological liberalism can even represent outright hostility toward rules, sympathy for law-breakers, and love of ambiguity, chaos, and disorder. Tert Ne, she has her own, philosophy view that was guided with questionable characters. You can just go on the internet. Have you ever noticed her natural gawkiness when public speaking. Okay I get the main message. SJs come off as folksy, traditional, and down-to-earth. I don't see why N would make you more into novelty, at all. Extravert doesn't mean you are loud or boisterous. So it's going to sound more N for that reason. People with low scores on openness to experience tend to have narrow, common interests. Like her or not, Hillary Clinton is not much of a paper-pusher. Again, it's here:http://www. Low Openness to Experience. she's definitely very 3 in that regard: a determined go-getter and opportunist. No, novelty is just correlated to "N," and in fact is how "N" is generally defined ("I am interested in doing things that are new and different. Your level of intellect is $flev. Also the website keeps changing my vote back in forth. Hillary is a smart women. It doesn't really sound like anything to me. The defining features of this scale areinterest in, andappreciation ofnatural and artificial beauty. v=7oy_DqKqTg0 Sounds like a frustrated ESTJ to me. I feel like there's a 5 behind her persona while you think there's a 3 behind it and we'll never really know. There are people out there who relish, live and learn about the world through engaging with it and being a part of it; this is something Hillary is certainly not. Ik it says that but if you type by functions or actually observe these types that's not how it is. “I am not a natural politician, in case you haven’t noticed, like my husband or President Obama. The lady adjusts her views in order to fit in. I think she's an INTJ who forces any E and S qualities you might see to succeed in politics. Depending on the individual's specific intellectual abilities, this symbolic cognition may take the form of mathematical, logical, or geometric thinking, artistic and metaphorical use of language, music composition or performance, or one of the many visual or performing arts. They tend to think and act in individualistic and nonconforming ways. Intellect is an intellectual style, not an intellectual ability, although high scorers on Intellect scoreslightlyhigher than low-Intellect individuals on standardized intelligence tests. There's also this zanyness to her that ESxJs tend to have. " That to me clicked 6w5. At the same time she can't say, "Yeah I lost. But at times I think she is very detach about it. It is so funny. ISTJ or INTJ for me. Artistic Interests. I'd say if the data doesn't fit, then disregard it until further notice. But she twisted it to achieve it. But then CNN wants a reconfirmation that she really mean to blames DNC. I don't get any extroversion from her during the 2016 campaign. She backed out to defend herself to tell the other instinctively backed off by doing the stop hand sign at 2:06. yes of course, Hillary C and Nixon HAVE THE SAME TYPE and they are both I. she likes to make a 3-like presentation of the 2 things she's done in her life if that makes any sense. Te-dom she calls the shot. She has very little feeling. Her 7th function is Ni. May impose their ideasabout the models and principles they’ve adopted, categorizing everything simplistically and robotically following the principles. You're totally free to disagree. If there’s an inconsistency between what your functions are saying and what MBTI actually is, then the functions cannot determine an MBTI type accurately. she also has funny "how could you not see it this way. They tend to be, compared to closed people, more aware of their feelings. May impose their ideasabout the models and principles they’ve adopted, categorizing everything simplistically and robotically following the principles. It's funny strawberry that you try to project me: "That xNTJ is this very emotionless know it all. ) but has an idea-centric way of explaining her opposition's arguments. She's an academic at heart who over years in the public eye programmed her robotic self to be somewhat presentable as a politician, but she excessively relies on knowledge rather than charisma or manipulation (she leaves that to other people to do on her behalf). com/embed/LMIoYihU7VU" frameborder="0" gesture="media" allow="encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe> Bah. This personality type is highly individualistic and Champions strive toward creating their own methods, looks, actions, habits, and ideas!. Oh would you look at that. 6w5 is a counter phobic just like 5w6, but 6w5 will react more then 5w6 and be on the defensive. The way she communicates is very N too. She doesn't really believe what she is saying. she's very headish to the point where she gets disconnected with her achievement and academic leanings, and she presents that side of herself very poorly i think, but it seeps through her "estj" facade on stage when she's in a sticky situation during a debate. I don't think her being educated makes her intuitive either but looking into her as a person, she seems to have a definite ideational slant that I think she obscured during her presidential campaign. She talks about in one of her quotes advancing the common humanity, doing what's best for society, but it doesn't stop there. So in order to stress relieve they make a light jester out of it. I see her as a cerebral, reticent, rehearsed, and even reserved personality forced onto the stage by her own drive and volition, and she therefore lacks a politician’s charisma. com/2016/02/17/nite-vedain-book-import/). Low scorers tend to feel uncomfortable with change and prefer familiar routines. Based on her recent book "What Happen", she sounds like an unhealthy 1w2. lol 43 people have voted ESTJ, and not a single one of them has argued why. Biggest failure in the history of modern politics. Wouldn't that lead to being more cautious and less open to a degree. At some point in her life she was a lot more ideological but I think her Te just is a lot stronger than her Ni. She wants to break the glass ceiling. Show me she is inferior Se or tertiary Se. The idea of ideological exploration and exploring possibilities does tie into Big 5’s “openness to experience” based on this description; it’s about seeking new ways to do things, having varied interests, deviating from conventional activities, and exploring options. she reeeeeally doesn't seem like she could be either a 2 or a 4 wing honestly but 5 with a 6 wing makes sense. And to make matter worse she blames Comey of her defeat and recently stated that DNC didn't help her enough during the campaign that she blew 1. Because the fact I have to reason every single point is annyoing and meticulus to me(Ti). Others describe you as down-to-earth, practical, and conservative. All of these politicians are well-educated. Hillary was found jogging and posted a picture by someone, that if I recalled was one of her staff. I am not a cyber bully lol. When ENTJ(along ENFJ) stressed 7th function Si appears "Lol you still bring this old stuff.
. In Jung's conception, she's definitely an extraverted thinking type but that isn't MBTI. Here an example of ExFP stressed 7th function Ti appears "lol you still used that mumbo jumbo function magic of yours lol". Criticizes others for notarticulating their operating principles. I went over and highlighted the more “N” related things in red, and the more “P” related things in blue. Psychological liberalism and conservatism are not identical to political affiliation, but certainly incline individuals toward certain political parties. They enjoy riddles, puzzles, and brain teasers. Intelligent, practical minded, result oriented and very grounded. Or how come her magical Ni cannot picked up on that. Hillary can't really be anything but an INTJ and I would guess she's most likely a 5w6, even though I've considered 3w2 in the past. Even if not directly tested, public voting can provide good accuracy regarding Hillary Clinton Myers-Briggs and personality type!. To her she this as an absolute winning. Pikupyourpantspatrol:2. lol at covering pearl harbor being cover up. Sounds like 3 adaptability and SJ conformity. The second letter in the personality type acronym corresponds to the preference within the sensing-intuition dimension: “S” stands for sensing and “N” stands for intuition.. I don't think her wanting to be president would make her exclusively 3 like that and I think she has a bigger 5 side than a 3 side. I also notice her saying she loves live audiences with real people, which is a definite sign of extraversion. Not the vibe I get from her. Te-dom, because everything she said in the entire campaign was just "Me, Me, and I did this and did that. And her performance of projecting is not being able to deliver a convincing manner. I really do think Hillary just may be a 5w6, and an INTJ. Hillary is more hawkish than Trump. hillary doesn't really strike me as exxj in the sense that she doesn't have a hold on her external environment in the way extraverted judgers tend to have. They become easily involved and absorbed in artistic and natural events. " But yeah feel free to disagree. somehow she doesn't know how to present herself well, which i feel as though is uncharacteristic of a 3. is perfectly in line with a stereotypical INTJ villain. " Or her recent interview. htmlI've heard she throws tantrumsXXXX. time_continue=1499&v=LMIoYihU7VU Sorry, I didn't embed it the first time. Here is what openness to experience in Big 5 describes:. Te-dom she calls the shot. She's a 3w4 though, not 3w2. * I still believe Hillary is a tritype 368. Writing out something long and preparing it doesn't make it sound intuitive—the content is how you'd judge it. Read Carl Bernstein's biography of her; it's a pretty solid portrait of an xNTJ. I do see her reasoning Ne and Si trying to connect Russia and 1000 agents to what I have no idea is she talking about. "A 5 wouldn't rely so heavily on slander and lash out at people for losing. And I still don't see how anything you're saying corresponds to her type. Here you can explore of famous people and fictional characters.. It something mysterious. *Beebe Ti is my 5th function. In other words she doesn't have a goal for herself. And Hillary Clinton is very private and does not come off naturally in front of crowds, so INTJ. I wonder who else is whiny rn. A tragic end to a selfless hero. She has somewhat of a 1-like attitude but she doesn't seem to be truly driven by actual 1-related motivations—at least not enough for it to be her core type. I know what you mean but I still think it's a decent enough indicator of an actual preference for intuition. she is not a natural public speaker. And I am not going to read a biography book. I was struggling to figure out her enneagram. What type is the most annoying. I remember that Pokemon Go statement thing she did to appear hip and popular. If she is 3w4 then she in it for herself. hillaryclintonquarterly. huffingtonpost. No question there. And still lost to an orange baboon. Regardless of your political opinions there’s nothing contradictory about what I said if you put those words back where they need to be to make sense not saying it's contradictory, it's naive and I think I'm pretty obviously joking about the first two “Hillary Clinton” and “honest” together in the same sentence does seem to get ur alarm ringing regardless of the meaning around it Oh okay Teru Mikami:. Ideational, not idealistic. Donald Trump think he should be president, because he thinks these are what is actually is missing in USA and the congress is ignoring(Se). Her tactic is nearly the same as Trump, but the difference is that she is a bad player. Low scorers on Intellect prefer dealing with either people or things rather than ideas. 2 billion dollars and still lost. Tert Ne, she has her own, philosophy view that was guided with questionable characters. The Te dominance is obvious. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www. Does that sound xNTJ 5 or xSTJ 3 to you. If Hillary Clinton knows exactly why she lost. I see some of your earlier responses. Another reason why she isn't Ni, because she wants to be a novelty(the first female US president). Inferior Fi is there, because she didn't bother visits the rust belt, and thought she had everything in the bag. " Can you see the absurdity of trying to type Hillary an ESTJ through your ill-explained idea of a trickster function. i can't give a great argument for sensing vs intuition because i see her more as non-se and non-ne; i would guess ni and si are both pretty high in her. Openness to Experience describes a dimension of cognitive style that distinguishes imaginative, creative people from down-to-earth, conventional people. ” It’s about questioning, exploring possibilities, considering more in thought, and it demonstrates comfortability with things that aren’t “for sure. logical frameworks) is just excuses for bad behavior (I actually had one say this to me. This is an obvious ESTJ trying to behave like an ESTP. Every one in the congress and the social media was all supporting Hillary. She's the latter. Clear cut INTJ. " Or her recent interview. Hillary Clinton really strikes me as an introverted intuitive ruled by her thinking and judging side to act in a way which would make her fit in the world of politics with the image of being a character resembling an “extraverted sensor. But DD reasoning and acting doesn't match xNTJ. I don't have an opinion on her type my man, I think everything about her post-2014 is too fake to be able to judge her and I can't stand her so I'm not gonna go looking into her personal life either Pikupyourpantspatrol:HC is an ESTJ, her inability to connect with people doesn't make her an INTJ and being educated doesn't make you N. I would think that her elaborate, morally and legaly dubious plans like taking over the DNC, covertly funding Fusion GPS investigations into Trump/Russia collusion, keeping a private email server and deleting emails that presumably contained shady info. He said Obama was nice but Hillary and Michelle were both super bitchy. The MBTI questionnaire sorts people into one of 16 different personality types.. maybe u should try function instead from letter bro HAHA owned like & share That's not really a very substantive response. Also she's not a visionary, her views adapt with the times. If you look at Hillary Clinton when she was in college and after the election, which I assume is her behaving more naturally than when campaigning, she looks very xNTJ. i just don't believe she's a sensor. Not the current era. I agree, she's almost absolutely not an ESTJ. As Donald Trump stated in the debate that she is fighter. But she can't accept that is she is at fault for losing. Her opinions have changed radically over the years and that's the only explanation I can think of as to why. That's certainly not a conclusive or foolproof argument, but it's another point in favor of her being NT, NTs who know her tend to like her. Above all, she takes a more studious "think-tankish" technocratic approach to politics even when it distances herself from the public. Hillary is ESTJ and that is final. Why do you think her Te and Si are so strong. She doesn't show it but, it has reported or rumor she throw and tantrum after losing the election or that she drink/drunk herself to get away from the feeling defeat and despair. She looked more extroverted in the 90s, but we've seen more of her now. I don't really delve to deep of other people, or other potential possibilities, once I get a basic understanding of their type. The irony is that you are ENFP to boot. com/michael-melcher/hillary-clinton-misunders_b_76282. Your level of artistic interests is $flev. She's not ethical like a 1, not image-conscious like a 3 (she can be really "out of touch"), and doesn't seem to be careful like a 6 or aggressive like an 8. e: about her being sniper rifle shot. I'd be curious for the arguments for ESTJ over ENTJ, cause I'm not seeing any. Or what do you think. Above all, she takes a more studious "think-tankish" technocratic approach to politics even when it distances herself from the public. They find familiarity and routine boring, and will take a new route home just because it is different. Closed people prefer familiarity over novelty; they are conservative and resistant to change. In Jung's conception, she's definitely an extraverted thinking type but that isn't MBTI. Si auxiliary because she used her past experience and thought she could win running the 1990 or that she is entitle it. My friend has a friend in the military and he apparently met Obama. But it's only your secondary trait(aux Fi tert Te). There are so many reasons for why Hillary Clinton would want to break the glass ceilling that I'm just going to ignore that. She's strategic, utilitarian, and pragmatic. I didn't realized you meant Congress supported her; Congress was actually Republican-controlled, so most congressmen did not endorse her. i'll refrain from voting there, but she's almost definitely a 351 or a 531, and definitely 5w6 if it's that first. Compromising your opinions isn't related to intuition or sensing. May become lost and confused when trying to analyze why things work and may project this onto others. i can't really see her being a wing 4 -- it would contradict her 3 in a way that would be recognizable even behind her political imageshe's probably 3w2 come to think of it like her detachment isn't really the product of her potential 4 wingI could of put her 3w2 as a motivator and promoter because she is an activist. While intuition is certainly “abstract,” it’s not really describing solely abstractness in the philosophical vs concrete sense but it’s more related to the idea of “meaning and significance” than “raw facts and details written out as is. honestly i might consider it over 3, since her introversion explains her 5 side.