Hillary Clinton Myers-Brigs type - MBTI, enneagram and personality type info
And Hillary Clinton is very private and does not come off naturally in front of crowds, so INTJ. You're trying to bind me [I feel confused or lost with technical variables and project it onto you] so I'm going to bind you with individually understood technical details. Depending on the individual's specific intellectual abilities, this symbolic cognition may take the form of mathematical, logical, or geometric thinking, artistic and metaphorical use of language, music composition or performance, or one of the many visual or performing arts. Although I am pretty sure he was being tongue in cheek, that Hillary is a sore-loser, and doesn't want to lose. " They make this remark to protect themselve. I really do think Hillary just may be a 5w6, and an INTJ. She's a 3w4 though, not 3w2. High scorers on adventurousness are eager to try new activities, travel to foreign lands, and experience different things. HC will do and say anything in order to win, very 3 like. Can you give me a basic reason why you think Hillary is an INTJ 5w6. Your level of adventurousness is $flev. To be honest I just focus the 2016 election only. Your level of imagination is $flev. is perfectly in line with a stereotypical INTJ villain. Closed people prefer familiarity over novelty; they are conservative and resistant to change. I'm unsure if ENTJ or INTJ works better, but she's not a senser either (for basically the same reasons). Others describe you as down-to-earth, practical, and conservative. It something mysterious. She thought hey if I make some live twitter, maybe I am hip and hop too(Ne tertiary). Good examples of SJs in the recent world of politics are George H. There are people out there who relish, live and learn about the world through engaging with it and being a part of it; this is something Hillary is certainly not. She's strategic, utilitarian, and pragmatic. Everyone was telling Hillary was great. They become easily involved and absorbed in artistic and natural events. For the sake of discussion, anyone got an argument for N. Her 7th function is Ni. She didn't bother going campaigning some other states in the final days. A 5 wouldn't rely so heavily on slander and lash out at people for losing. Again, you've turned this into a matter of ability rather than preference, and you're projecting the extent of my knowledgeability about sociology through a function model. Fair enough—I think you're totally justified in believing it. Regardless, she's clearly an N if you look at her at all before she entered politics. We'll never really know since she's a politician and a fairly private one at that, but I don't see her as a 3 for reasons I've explained before. Psychological liberalism and conservatism are not identical to political affiliation, but certainly incline individuals toward certain political parties. Ik it says that but if you type by functions or actually observe these types that's not how it is. Clear cut INTJ. I can only guarantee the validity of this as far as I fit the description they gave very well myself. I was struggling to figure out her enneagram. It's fascinating to me that you're justifying an ESTJ typing by referring to a "7th function" in a completely different model and don't explain its actual manifestation well at all, instead using shaky, meaningless and cherrypicked examples in an effort to explain it. " Everything has to go back to her. I don't really feel "sensing" based on what she's written. (Seriously, look it up. i don't see hillary as someone who gets energized by being around people but more as someone who deals with it in order to accomplish her goals. Regardless of your political opinions there’s nothing contradictory about what I said if you put those words back where they need to be to make sense not saying it's contradictory, it's naive and I think I'm pretty obviously joking about the first two “Hillary Clinton” and “honest” together in the same sentence does seem to get ur alarm ringing regardless of the meaning around it Oh okay Teru Mikami:. But I don't really even think she's a 3 (she'd be wing 2 if she were, not wing 4) and feel like it's more "situational" for her than it is ingrained in her personality. TV ads are still very useful; Trump used them as well. But it's only your secondary trait(aux Fi tert Te). " undertones that vaguely point to introverted intuition, where she seems to have ideas that she doesn't really explain so well. This may seem ESFJ, but in her other quotes she talks about her beliefs and doesn't mention how society fits in with that. Like I said her opinions change with the times. There are so many reasons for why Hillary Clinton would want to break the glass ceilling that I'm just going to ignore that. That's certainly not a conclusive or foolproof argument, but it's another point in favor of her being NT, NTs who know her tend to like her. Move on its current year. Not the vibe I get from her. She doesn't really believe what she is saying. I don't know what I expected, but that wasn't it. She's certainly much more intellectual than the average secondary Si user. To me it looks accurate overall, but when delve deeper and look into more minor details, there is a lot of inaccuracies. she reeeeeally doesn't seem like she could be either a 2 or a 4 wing honestly but 5 with a 6 wing makes sense. If Hillary Clinton knows exactly why she lost. Your argument for 3 is valid but again, I don't think it's because she's actually 3 but it's rather her adjusting to her climate. But DD reasoning and acting doesn't match xNTJ. I also think it's uncommon for SJs to go all that far outside of their traditional role, and, with her being a woman growing up in the 1950's in a very conservative family, her role would certainly not have included the presidency. At some point in her life she was a lot more ideological but I think her Te just is a lot stronger than her Ni. Her behavior on election night was extremely ESTJ in the saddest way possible. "—taken from the Myers-Briggs website). I feel like if I typed Hillary by how she seemed at face value I'd also arrive at something like xSTJ 3 but there is more to her background that I believe you're overlooking. where do y'all get extraversion from. 7th function Ni. Based on her recent book "What Happen", she sounds like an unhealthy 1w2. htmlI've heard she throws tantrumsXXXX. She's not ethical like a 1, not image-conscious like a 3 (she can be really "out of touch"), and doesn't seem to be careful like a 6 or aggressive like an 8. Her campaign is based on the 1990s. And @Debaser, why do you see her as an introvert. Your level of liberalism is $flev. Well, maybe the word "whiny" is the more accurate description of her. I can even go further that say she is Fi inferior because she constantly gets caught lying, i. But at times I think she is very detach about it. I'd say if the data doesn't fit, then disregard it until further notice. The idea of ideological exploration and exploring possibilities does tie into Big 5’s “openness to experience” based on this description; it’s about seeking new ways to do things, having varied interests, deviating from conventional activities, and exploring options. Not the current era. The defining features of this scale areinterest in, andappreciation ofnatural and artificial beauty. The irony is that you are ENFP to boot. A tragic end to a selfless hero. Whether you go by functions or letters. she likes to make a 3-like presentation of the 2 things she's done in her life if that makes any sense. What is the best option for the MBTI type of Hillary Clinton? What about enneagram and other personality types?. You are so fixiated with data(Si). But others are more to blame. May become lost and confused when trying to analyze why things work and may project this onto others. An INTJ wouldn't do that, they'd be much more of a visionary. There's a reason she didn't give her concession speech until the next day. Low scorers tend to feel uncomfortable with change and prefer familiar routines. What other things she needs to lack faith there of. i just don't believe she's a sensor. It is so funny. Regardless of inferior Fi. Also the website keeps changing my vote back in forth. They prefer the plain, straightforward, and obvious over the complex, ambiguous, and subtle. She has very little feeling. You don't need the news for your daily news. It's funny strawberry that you try to project me: "That xNTJ is this very emotionless know it all. Again, it's here:http://www. I don't really see why speaking and writing should be any different when it's the same person behind them both. Ask yourself: is Myers-Briggs really meant to measure "cognitive ability". Hillary Clinton really strikes me as an introverted intuitive ruled by her thinking and judging side to act in a way which would make her fit in the world of politics with the image of being a character resembling an “extraverted sensor. Wouldn't that lead to being more cautious and less open to a degree. As Donald Trump stated in the debate that she is fighter. She is one of the politicians who (in debates and interviews, not in speeches) seems the most focused on how a particular discussion is framed. Low scorers are less aware of their feelings and tend not to express their emotions openly. Above all, she takes a more studious "think-tankish" technocratic approach to politics even when it distances herself from the public. If she is 3w4 then she in it for herself. but her using what can be interpreted as te more in our public eye is what makes it hard to see either in her. This is an obvious ESTJ trying to behave like an ESTP. The 7th function either direct at others or themselves to give a sense of relief. I don't see why N would make you more into novelty, at all. They are not necessarily artistically trained nor talented, although many will be. When ENTJ(along ENFJ) stressed 7th function Si appears "Lol you still bring this old stuff. I do believe she has a strong 3 side but I don't believe it's her core type simply because she doesn't strike me as someone who lives their life to be recognized and valued or have an essential fear rooted in worthlessness. If you have Se you will realize, nowadays tv is not needed for campaign. Did you not see the 2016 election. Read the book "What Happened. Si auxiliary because she used her past experience and thought she could win running the 1990 or that she is entitle it. May impose their ideasabout the models and principles they’ve adopted, categorizing everything simplistically and robotically following the principles. If Hillary was 3w2 that explains her coat tailing her husband Bill Clinton and continuing Obama era of progressive if that makes any sense. High Openness to Experience. *Beebe Ti is my 5th function. I also notice her saying she loves live audiences with real people, which is a definite sign of extraversion. Feels confused or lost with technical variables and projects it onto others. Read the book "What Happened. I have no concrete proofs but I always saw her as a I. by the letters i think she's i, n, t and j with t and j obviously being the strongest. The MBTI questionnaire sorts people into one of 16 different personality types.. She does and says anything to win and she was so torn after losing she wrote a book about it blaming others. Hillary was found jogging and posted a picture by someone, that if I recalled was one of her staff. High scorers on this scale use fantasy as a way of creating a richer, more interesting world. Let me also point out that - and I'm trying to avoid being political - Hillary Clinton's analytical tendencies, strategies, and ideas found staunch defenders in people from weird, ideologically different corners - Henry Kissinger, Paul Krugrman, George Soros, Barack Obama, Bill Weld - people who are almost universally agreed to be xNTx. Again, not really an N thing. She's not ethical like a 1, not image-conscious like a 3 (she can be really "out of touch"), and doesn't seem to be careful like a 6 or aggressive like an 8. Do you consider that's her Te overriding/resisting Fi. In Jung's conception, she's definitely an extraverted thinking type but that isn't MBTI. com/embed/LMIoYihU7VU" frameborder="0" gesture="media" allow="encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe> Bah. She honestly seems to be a type 5 pretending to be a 1 who comes off as a 3, but I would guess all three of those are in her tritype. And I am not going to read a biography book. I'd be curious for the arguments for ESTJ over ENTJ, cause I'm not seeing any. Just like what you are doing it now. They tend to think and act in individualistic and nonconforming ways. You're not wrong about J being less novel than P though, which is why openness in Big 5 is strongly N and P together, but the actual idea of "novelty" doesn't inherently describe perceiving even though there's a decent overlap; seeking out new and original ways to do things is not perceiving related, it's how intuition is defined. She's not ethical like a 1, not image-conscious like a 3 (she can be really "out of touch"), and doesn't seem to be careful like a 6 or aggressive like an 8. What type is the most annoying. I don't see any Ni in her because her quotes are mostly focused on hard work and the common good rather than vision and foresight. Or what do you think. The way she communicates is very N too. Can you logically tell me why N would have to do with openness. Clinton is a 3, not a 5. They regard intellectual exercises as a waste of time. I'm unsure if ENTJ or INTJ works better, but she's not a senser either (for basically the same reasons). I agree with this but I think her 3 side is more situational and inspired by her wanting to achieve her goal of being president. Extravert doesn't mean you are loud or boisterous. She acts like she knows the exact reason she lost the election by pointing multiple factors and weird analogy "like covering up the Pearl Harbor"(she doesn't real know why she lost). Okay I get the main message. Here, if you can't see Ni in Hillary, you might be too focused on her recent image. In other words she doesn't have a goal for herself. And she deserves it. 6w5 and 8w9 are the others. I don't think she even really looks particularly xSTJ 3, though.
. I do see her reasoning Ne and Si trying to connect Russia and 1000 agents to what I have no idea is she talking about. I even consider 5w6, but after watching the "Why I am not 50 points ahead. You're projecting something onto me that doesn't exist lol Here is why she is Ni 7th function:. Intellect and artistic interests are the two most important, central aspects of openness to experience. To put it simple: Hillary, "I am not saying its your fault that I lost, but it is your fault that I lost. Imaginativeness using multiple possibilities is a playful, childlike endeavor. Wouldn't all presidential candidates be idealistic. No question there. ESTJ tritype 368. " But yeah feel free to disagree. I also am willingly to admit that I type people with a broad stroke. Because the fact I have to reason every single point is annyoing and meticulus to me(Ti). Ye, my favorite. Because the fact I have to reason every single point is annyoing and meticulus to me(Ti). You can just go on the internet. It seems to me that she is primarily concerned with advancing society with her own beliefs Te-Fi. So it's possible for her to be president and being secretary of defense its safe to assume she knows best of USA(Si). logical frameworks) is just excuses for bad behavior (I actually had one say this to me. Like she probably felt deep inside what is the point of me projecting myself across the media. she lacks trump's whole schtick with manipulating and controlling her environment, instead relying on her previous knowledge to answer questions. Novelty is more correlated to Ne rather Ni. Why do you think her Te and Si are so strong. Others forms of vid documentary, liver interview are suffice. “I am not a natural politician, in case you haven’t noticed, like my husband or President Obama. Being a politician, Hillary knows how to act and plays a safe campaign because she is aware of how politics work and how nominees are elected; you may look at this as "Si" but this is exactly where function theory and types begin to disconnect from one another. If anything, she seems to have somewhat of a drive to correct others' ways of doing things, but she's definitely malleable in this regard and I would agree she isn't really consistent enough to be a type 1. She is instead a 5w6. she's definitely very 3 in that regard: a determined go-getter and opportunist. v=7oy_DqKqTg0 Sounds like a frustrated ESTJ to me. Move on its current year. "Hillary is an academic at heart and awkwardly shapes herself to suit the character who she needs to be to win the presidential election""I will assume she's being honest""but does have a strong sense of knowing what’s right". So here's the most detailed description of trickster Ti I could find:. Inferior Fi is there, because she didn't bother visits the rust belt, and thought she had everything in the bag. You can really only make out TJ from her on stage and guess 3 because she's a politician but I don't think her first two letters are obvious, and for good reason when you consider electability. To her she this as an absolute winning. I remember that Pokemon Go statement thing she did to appear hip and popular. Here is what openness to experience in Big 5 describes:. To imaginative individuals, the real world is often too plain and ordinary. May impose their ideasabout the models and principles they’ve adopted, categorizing everything simplistically and robotically following the principles. And here's what Beebe had to say about trickster Ti:. Welcome to MBTIBase - PersonalityBase, here you can learn about Hillary Clinton MBTI type.. Writing out something long and preparing it doesn't make it sound intuitive—the content is how you'd judge it. Or I cop-out she just have very poor memory, but that wouldn't do no good for getting a good typing of her. ENTJ can be like that too though. The fact she didn't appear during the concession speech and tells Podesta, instead is very weak Fi. Regardless, that should still apply to Ni vs. I'm unsure if ENTJ or INTJ works better, but she's not a senser either (for basically the same reasons). High scorers on Intellect love to play with ideas. Hillary is an academic at heart and awkwardly shapes herself to suit the character who she needs to be to win the presidential election: the to-be first female president of the United States. You are curious, imaginative, and creative. Every one in the congress and the social media was all supporting Hillary. " They make this remark to protect themselve. It's funny strawberry that you try to project me: "That xNTJ is this very emotionless know it all. But of course I can easily justify an ExFP typing for you by using "trickster Ti" to describe your "cognitive thought process. So I think ESTJ. * I still believe Hillary is a tritype 368. Keep reading to learn more about what goes into your Myers-Briggs personality type—and maybe discover what yours is.. She looks xSTJ 3 cause she is. They may regard the arts and sciences with suspicion, regarding these endeavors as abstruse or of no practical use. yes of course, Hillary C and Nixon HAVE THE SAME TYPE and they are both I. Every ESTJ I can think of tends to be power-hungry or hungry for control. I really don't think you grasp the Bebe model. And if she was an ISTJ or INTJ, then that makes her defeat even more tragic or in my opinion comical. Intuitives focus on a more abstract level of thinking; they are more interested in theories, patterns, and explanations. They are often more concerned with the future than the present and are often described as creative. Openness is often presented as healthier or more mature by psychologists, who are often themselves open to experience. Si auxiliary, she project herself as someone who believe and support the congress. Where I think sensors are naturally oriented toward realism and see stretching out into the ideational side of things second, intuitives see orient themselves toward ideas and think of pragmatism as a secondary trait, something I see Hillary having an easier time doing being both strongly “thinking” and “judging. But then CNN wants a reconfirmation that she really mean to blames DNC. I see her as a cerebral, reticent, rehearsed, and even reserved personality forced onto the stage by her own drive and volition, and she therefore lacks a politician’s charisma. And her performance of projecting is not being able to deliver a convincing manner. I personally feel that her lack of genuineness, ideological purity, and perceived unethical and ruthless tendencies were primarily criticized by Ss and Fs. Scores on Openness to Experience are only modestly related to years of education and scores on standard intelligent tests. " Can you see the absurdity of trying to type Hillary an ESTJ through your ill-explained idea of a trickster function. She's an academic at heart who over years in the public eye programmed her robotic self to be somewhat presentable as a politician, but she excessively relies on knowledge rather than charisma or manipulation (she leaves that to other people to do on her behalf). So in order to stress relieve they make a light jester out of it. Now without that my other option would of been ISTJ, but I don't think Hillary is weak on the Ne. But she twisted it to achieve it. I was struggling to figure out her enneagram. "Ni as trickster shadows Ne as child. I don't really delve to deep of other people, or other potential possibilities, once I get a basic understanding of their type. I don't have a strong opinion of her enneagram type, but those are my thoughts exactly on the MBTI side. In its most extreme form, psychological liberalism can even represent outright hostility toward rules, sympathy for law-breakers, and love of ambiguity, chaos, and disorder. I think if she at her core sought to achieve and be valued, we'd still see such an attitude even now that's she's not in the running. "Believe in and support the congress" could be true for anyone; and even then I don't know to what exactly you are refferring with regard to Hillary. time_continue=1499&v=LMIoYihU7VU Sorry, I didn't embed it the first time. Low Openness to Experience. Hillary Clinton's "experience" argument reflects SJ (Si function) values, but that really just seems like a better campaign tactic than "vote for me because I am smart enough to know what's wrong America. Openness Facets. But on the other hand she is actually very realistic in her approach. She is instead a 5w6. Low scorers on Intellect prefer dealing with either people or things rather than ideas. ISTJ or INTJ for me. To deal her ego she makes herself look Ni-dom. Actually, neither E nor S make any sense to me whatsoever. I don't think her being educated makes her intuitive either but looking into her as a person, she seems to have a definite ideational slant that I think she obscured during her presidential campaign. I am not a cyber bully lol. i'll refrain from voting there, but she's almost definitely a 351 or a 531, and definitely 5w6 if it's that first. Tertiary Ne even supports the fact she thinks shes a female therefore she is entitle to become a president and breaking the glass seal. They are open-minded to new and unusual ideas, and like to debate intellectual issues. Discover Array, and more, famous people, fictional characters and celebrities here!. i could maybe accept sensing, but there is no way she's extraverted being so secretive, private, and almost "unnatural" in front of an audience. She is Si everywhere. Tert Ne, she has her own, philosophy view that was guided with questionable characters. Her opinions have changed radically over the years and that's the only explanation I can think of as to why. Low scorers lack aesthetic sensitivity and interest in the arts. A Nazi endorsing his favorite candidate. I agree with gary, though I see ENTJ at a level too. Ni will be more like Donald Trump. Or how come her magical Ni cannot picked up on that. somehow she doesn't know how to present herself well, which i feel as though is uncharacteristic of a 3. She reminds me of an unhealthy 3, unable to cope with loss. If you look at Hillary Clinton when she was in college and after the election, which I assume is her behaving more naturally than when campaigning, she looks very xNTJ. org/my-mbti-personality-type/mbti-basics/sensing-or-intuition. Interpret it how you will, but I will assume she's being honest because she has demonstrated signs of discomfort as a politician to the point where I would even say she's not really made to be on stage—where other politicians live and own it, Hillary is a step removed from her audience and doesn't connect with them in a way which would suggest she’s inherently oriented towards the outer world. ” I don’t think she’s particularly image-oriented at all but does have a strong sense of knowing what’s right (which isn’t overpowered by her detached, academic and information-gathering side — yes, I think she without a doubt has this when you consider how she’s built up her image). No, novelty is just correlated to "N," and in fact is how "N" is generally defined ("I am interested in doing things that are new and different. How does it feel. Mitt Romney is ESTJ too, he can't connect with people either. Ni focus only based on current surrounding (Se). Even if not directly tested, public voting can provide good accuracy regarding Hillary Clinton Myers-Briggs and personality type!. Intellect shouldnotbe equated with intelligence. She is 8w7 compare to Trump who is more of 8w9. Elaborate on the Si part. While intuition is certainly “abstract,” it’s not really describing solely abstractness in the philosophical vs concrete sense but it’s more related to the idea of “meaning and significance” than “raw facts and details written out as is. N has to do with being more abstract than concrete and more idea-oriented. My friend has a friend in the military and he apparently met Obama. i can't really see her being a wing 4 -- it would contradict her 3 in a way that would be recognizable even behind her political imageshe's probably 3w2 come to think of it like her detachment isn't really the product of her potential 4 wingI could of put her 3w2 as a motivator and promoter because she is an activist. He is acting more like an xNFP than me based on his own comment. She doesn't speak like she writes anyways. i feel like they're there, but they don't get translated in her words. Artistic Interests. This mean ENFP feels conflicted. Here you can explore of famous people and fictional characters.. ” It’s about questioning, exploring possibilities, considering more in thought, and it demonstrates comfortability with things that aren’t “for sure. If there’s an inconsistency between what your functions are saying and what MBTI actually is, then the functions cannot determine an MBTI type accurately. In this site you can find out which of the 16 types this character 'Hillary Clinton' belongs to!. And that explains why she really wants to be the first female president in USA and breaks the glass sealing. Trump was better than me. Hillary Clinton already build her career as a lawyer, senate, secretary. Here an example of ExFP stressed 7th function Ti appears "lol you still used that mumbo jumbo function magic of yours lol". She doesn't seem like someone caught up in explaining facts and details for what they are rather than someone who would be more willing to extrapolate and theorize based on her written work—this is an N thing, unlike being "idealistic" which could mean anything depending on context. If Hillary Clinton were xSTJ, I would think she would be ISTJ. She might be: 5w6 1w2 3w2. You’ve actually made a better argument for ENTJ than ESTJ here since your reasoning for Ne would indicate N while your reasoning for Si doesn’t indicate S You're getting too political, but let me just say that this is the first election where I have ever heard it described as the loser's "fault" for losing. I wonder who else is whiny rn. All of these politicians are well-educated. She acts like she knows the exact reason she lost the election by pointing multiple factors and weird analogy "like covering up the Pearl Harbor"(she doesn't real know why she lost). <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www. " Or her recent interview. And still lost to an orange baboon. i can't give a great argument for sensing vs intuition because i see her more as non-se and non-ne; i would guess ni and si are both pretty high in her. If we're gonna use letters. Did you not read your own post "double bound". So I'll go with what's been demonstrated to be true. I didn't realized you meant Congress supported her; Congress was actually Republican-controlled, so most congressmen did not endorse her. They find familiarity and routine boring, and will take a new route home just because it is different. I don't think her wanting to be president would make her exclusively 3 like that and I think she has a bigger 5 side than a 3 side. Novelty is more correlated to Ne rather Ni. Could be so but I was asking that question to isolate the debate of S vs NShe's not an E either. Above all, she takes a more studious "think-tankish" technocratic approach to politics even when it distances herself from the public. My verdict is based on the fact that she was trying succeed and life and try to be a role model to young women. hillary doesn't really strike me as exxj in the sense that she doesn't have a hold on her external environment in the way extraverted judgers tend to have. but her most used functions imo might be te, ni and si, probably with some fe and possibly a little bit of ne too. it's just an intuition vibe i guessI made a minor mistake: She is 8w9 compare to Trump who is more of 8w7. like just her upbringing and academic background and political involvement all makes me think she's more likely than not someone who is more in tune with intuition than sensing. I see her approach of planning Te. You could call it 3, but it would be political suicide to expose your true views on everything. She also mentions having a positive outlook on the future, which leads me to believe that she is not intuition inferior, as intuition inferior would be more fearful of the unknown. Pikupyourpantspatrol:2. Adventurousness. And you might be right she might be a possible introversion, that I didn't pick up, because as I stated I only went the most recent of her in 2016+. her body language and practically theatrical reservedness reveals her cerebrality and, in my opinion, her introversion. If she takes too seriously, she is a whacko. My point is it has to be inspiring, move people, convince them and promise change. I'm fucking wheezing you can't be serious Why did you pull my words out of context. She's an academic at heart who over years in the public eye programmed her robotic self to be somewhat presentable as a politician, but she excessively relies on knowledge rather than charisma or manipulation (she leaves that to other people to do on her behalf). So ENxJs "protect themselves" by insisting on removing weight on past mistakes. I feel like there's a 5 behind her persona while you think there's a 3 behind it and we'll never really know. Finally, if you consider Hillary Clinton to be cruel in campaigning, all that indicates is "T", which I'm pretty sure everyone already agrees on. Not to barge in the middle of the conversation since I don't know a whole lot about Hillary, but @strawberry crisis, since you're proposing she's INTJ, here's a link describing her as such with regards to body language, just Ctrl+F her name: (http://cognitivetype. her style seems kind of fact oriented, but she doesn't really speak with just facts in mind -- she talks about a "vision" she sees, and she doesn't refute her opponent by picking apart their argument with facts just as they are (as i would imagine a sensor to. Also extravert means you are loud and boisterous. This is probably a prime example of distorting unrelated theories to suit a particular narrative that's meant to translate to something that doesn't suit what you believe it is meant to suit. She's clearly ESTJ, indeed. When ENTJ(along ENFJ) stressed 7th function Si appears "Lol you still bring this old stuff. Are you blind. But it's only your secondary trait(aux Fi tert Te). This is strange—so you yourself redefined what "intuition" and "sensing" means in MBTI terms to suit something it means to you personally. Persons high on Emotionality have good access to and awareness of their own feelings. Donald Trump think he should be president, because he thinks these are what is actually is missing in USA and the congress is ignoring(Se). 3w2's are supposed to be more people oriented (sort of like MBTI Fe-doms), 3w4's are more serious, task-oriented. She is saying, "Yes its my fault. I might be off 1 or 2 enneagram, because that is more of my blindspot of not taking too much considering, and only focusing things the major appropriate stacking. There's compromising your opinions and then there's not staying true to yourself. seems more 3w4 than anythingShe's energetic but she doesn't know how to connect with or relate to people at all. I'm going for ESTJ. Low scorers are on this scale are more oriented to facts than fantasy. i think now she could be 3 leading when you look at her as a politician but she may just be playing pretend and could be 5 or 1 first with a 3-fix maybe. Intelligent, practical minded, result oriented and very grounded. Hillary is a pragmatist but there’s no reason to believe she’s naturally oriented toward pragmatism in a way that “sensing” would necessarily behest rather than her just being logical, practical and aware of social boundaries like a introverted, thinking judger would be. But she twisted it to achieve it. Your level of intellect is $flev. She's the latter. The irony is that you are ENFP to boot. As for 3w4 leading. She is instead a 5w6. Your level of artistic interests is $flev. People with low scores on openness to experience tend to have narrow, common interests. I agree, she's almost absolutely not an ESTJ. "They think through things more"might be a context thing; it likely means thinking through more possibilities rather than acting in a way that would necessarily be cautious or restrained. Another reason why she isn't Ni, because she wants to be a novelty(the first female US president). It doesn't really sound like anything to me. Not everyone you dislike is an S. Te-dom, because everything she said in the entire campaign was just "Me, Me, and I did this and did that. No one has ever said that Hillary changes her views "to fit in", even if Hillary Clinton might change her statements in order to win. (Ni inferior btw) He thinks he should be president, because he thinks he can. Tert Ne, she has her own, philosophy view that was guided with questionable characters. ExFP's: All this archetype stuff ("puers trigger witches", etc. Of course being educated doesn't make you an N (although I am not 100% sold that Mitt Romney is an ESTJ either; I really don't know enough and what I have seen could go either way). They don't look anything like Hillary Clinton. Like her or not, Hillary Clinton is not much of a paper-pusher. But she can't accept that is she is at fault for losing. She much more openly exhibits N-tendencies in this 1979 interview:. If you enjoyed this entry, find out about the personality types of Politicans and Leaders characters list.. She wants to break the glass ceiling. I first try to get an overall image of the person by observing which function appears more frequently, and which one is most likely fit that cognitive approach. Open people are intellectually curious, appreciative of art, and sensitive to beauty. hillaryclintonquarterly. Apart from a few social issues she's a total disasterThats quite naive of you to think that. She wants to break the glass ceiling. htmIt's there3. The Te dominance is obvious. Openness to Experience describes a dimension of cognitive style that distinguishes imaginative, creative people from down-to-earth, conventional people. Accuses others of being stuck in the models and frameworks they have learned or adapted. 6w5 is a counter phobic just like 5w6, but 6w5 will react more then 5w6 and be on the defensive. She’s bookish and internal, showing off herself to the world in a restricted fashion she puts herself into both as a consequence of the field she is working in and as a consequence of her personality. even if she speaks quite well in public it seems very prepared. If I am off, then I rechecked my typing. Si (although I am ideologically opposed to using cognitive functions to type as I think most of the conclusions people draw are superfluous). ExFP’s Might feel ‘double-bound’ by variable logical principles and use them to trap others or be silly. Si auxiliary, she project herself as someone who believe and support the congress. I was struggling to figure out her enneagram. It's also contradictory since it also says they think through things more. So far as I understand the trickster function really wouldn't often be confused for the dominant function. the problem with your argument is that you apply your functions anywhere in this sorta arbitrary manner -- what says something is leading, auxiliary, tertiary, or inferior and why do certain (not necessarily even consistent) mannerisms get tied to the functions that way. She feels in control. He is acting more like an xNFP than me based on his own comment. Please tell me if you disagree with anything I’ve highlighted. my argument for that dichotomy is honestly just gonna be she's not very sensing compared to being somewhat intuiting. lol at covering pearl harbor being cover up. she also has funny "how could you not see it this way. And finally, Hillary was Secretary of State not Secretary of Defense. Such a blatant ESTJ it hard to miss. com/documents/HillaryClintonThesis. " Hardy har har. You're totally free to disagree. People opposed to Hillary Clinton more often portray her as scheming and Machiavellian than they do simple and unsophisticated. Compromising your opinions isn't related to intuition or sensing. You try so hard to understand human sociology, and reasoning so much.
. There's also this zanyness to her that ESxJs tend to have. Hillary is a very strong judger: she's disciplined, she knows the rules, and she looks at the world in a way that is "set" with conventions and the status-quo triumphing over new and radical ideas, but sensing would only come into play if she truly had a lack of consideration for such ideas and avoided them because of their intrinsic sense of absurdity rather than, perhaps, her looking at these ideas and deprioritizing them because she doesn't believe they'll be accepted by the world around her, something I'm inclined to believe she's more like. Te makes her action oriented but her Si makes her reluctant to challenge status quo and keeping things the way they are working. Free in-depth and practical information on the 16 personality types, including careers and relationships.. John Beebe may have made 16 "archetypes" that happen to share the same names of Myers and Briggs' 16 personality types but don't be deceived; they're actually radically different. She doesn't want to explicit I believe it w/o losing any less recognition. " That to me clicked 6w5. Ideational, not idealistic. Anyway when I try to typed someone. It's just a weird and pointless thing to say. Ignored the clickbait title. I think she is ESTJ. I went over and highlighted the more “N” related things in red, and the more “P” related things in blue. It's absolutely wacky, too, considering you're supposed to be an xNTJ, not an ExFP. Even the "killary" cartoon villain that people on the right and some on the far-left have created strikes me as an xNTJ. She even tries to be a cool grandma, which comes out being cringy at best. I don't really imagine someone sensing-leaning writing these:https://www. she's very headish to the point where she gets disconnected with her achievement and academic leanings, and she presents that side of herself very poorly i think, but it seeps through her "estj" facade on stage when she's in a sticky situation during a debate. Back to Hillary. Intellectuals typically score high on Openness to Experience; consequently, this factor has also been calledCultureorIntellect. I can see you are saying she does plan things ahead, but in what approach. Te-dom she calls the shot. But at the same time she is always seems to be concern covering her weakness in the front of the media. Anyway enough about me. " Or her recent interview. Inferior Fi, she support things she actually says both on or off campaign. But if you read about Hillary Clinton in her youth she was very interested in developing her own political philosophy (those are great picks for documents showing that). * Of course in their own tritype respective. They tend to be, compared to closed people, more aware of their feelings. High scorers on this scale love beauty, both in art and in nature. And to make matter worse she blames Comey of her defeat and recently stated that DNC didn't help her enough during the campaign that she blew 1. Above all, she takes a more studious "think-tankish" technocratic approach to politics even when it distances herself from the public. You inserted your own opinion about why she lost and used it to guide an idea you created of her having no clue about why shereally lost, turning this theory not into a matter ofpreference, but a matter ofability. I see some of your earlier responses. You are so fixiated with data(Si). So it's going to sound more N for that reason. Your score on Openness to Experience is high, indicating you enjoy novelty, variety, and change. 7th function Ni. I don't have an opinion on her type my man, I think everything about her post-2014 is too fake to be able to judge her and I can't stand her so I'm not gonna go looking into her personal life either Pikupyourpantspatrol:HC is an ESTJ, her inability to connect with people doesn't make her an INTJ and being educated doesn't make you N. she is not a natural public speaker. She doesn't show it but, it has reported or rumor she throw and tantrum after losing the election or that she drink/drunk herself to get away from the feeling defeat and despair. Not only is this hilariously reductionistic of my actual view on function theory but it's also simplifying Beebe's explanation of it to terms where I'm unable to actually pull the concept of a "trickster function" out of what you're trying to articulate. Criticizes others for notarticulating their operating principles. Definitely ESTJ. Anyway 3rd times the charm in 2020. Not only that I think Hillary is more of a sensor, and most sensor/thinking orientated tends to be 6 or specifically 6w5. i'm not really sure. as for intuition and sensing, i lean intuition mainly because she just seems to be more in tune with ideas than facts themselves. I'd say if the data doesn't fit, then disregard it until further notice. I wonder, what do people think a very disingenuous xNTJ would look like if NOT like Hillary. I then go other website sources and rechecked them with mine to get a more accurate type. Does that sound xNTJ 5 or xSTJ 3 to you. Leading enneagram 3w4 so/sp. If this is intimidated, the person will then try to bind the other person with negative premonitions of what will happen. They prepare their speeches, it has to convince people, ofc it will sound like that. Writing about sexism doesn't make it easier to integrate to 7 or does it. I know what you mean but I still think it's a decent enough indicator of an actual preference for intuition. But DD reasoning and acting doesn't match xNTJ. " We should focus most on Hillary when she's NOT campaigning, because she is likely to be most genuine then. To find out what your MBTI personality type is you need to complete the MBTI questionnaire and take part in a feedback session from a qualified MBTI practitioner.. Haha, that debaser is a joke. in that video i can't really say much more than xxtj like there isn't anything particularly intuiting or sensing there and nor do i really get much of introversion or extraversion out of iti think she's most definitely te leading -- at least in front of an audience -- and probably why her intuition becomes obscured, but i don't think her being te dominant necessarily means that she's extraverted. But you've not only applied the idea of "novelty" in the funniest way here but you're also explaining how "novelty," an intuitive concept, is supposed to justify her being a sensor. It's fair to type her 3 for it but I don't think it really represents who she actually is. He said Obama was nice but Hillary and Michelle were both super bitchy. I guess I get what you're saying at the end. She's an academic at heart who over years in the public eye programmed her robotic self to be somewhat presentable as a politician, but she excessively relies on knowledge rather than charisma or manipulation (she leaves that to other people to do on her behalf). I would think that her elaborate, morally and legaly dubious plans like taking over the DNC, covertly funding Fusion GPS investigations into Trump/Russia collusion, keeping a private email server and deleting emails that presumably contained shady info. She had always been on the defensive. Hillary can't really be anything but an INTJ and I would guess she's most likely a 5w6, even though I've considered 3w2 in the past. lol 43 people have voted ESTJ, and not a single one of them has argued why. Have you ever noticed her natural gawkiness when public speaking. maybe u should try function instead from letter bro HAHA owned like & share That's not really a very substantive response. Te-dom she calls the shot. I'd be interested to see why you think ESTJ. The lady adjusts her views in order to fit in. SJs come off as folksy, traditional, and down-to-earth. I find this super funny, DiamondDust, because I feel like you've exhibited signs of these points much more than I have, fitting your own worldview into these models that simply don't reflect what MBTI types are in order to type people using MBTI. 2 billion dollars and still lost. They may act as if it is inevitable or as good as having occurred already, and become very childish. It doesn't matter. You actually don't get campaigning that well. In Jung's conception, she's definitely an extraverted thinking type but that isn't MBTI. Psychological liberalism refers to a readiness to challenge authority, convention, and traditional values. But anyway let's not derailed the thread. She talks about in one of her quotes advancing the common humanity, doing what's best for society, but it doesn't stop there. Fascinating—so if I score "extraversion," "intuition," and "judging" on the official Myers-Briggs test, I will necessarily do this. May make statements or believe in ideas that are contradictory and illogical and project this on others. However, open and closed styles of thinking are useful in different environments. An NJ being more interested in novelty than an SP is just hilarious. Having a vagina is the best credential. but her judging is obvious in a way you can call it self-dictating: she plans ahead, she memorizes, she rehearses, and she tries to get her words down perfectly -- but never in a convincing manner. INTP 7th function Se "lol look at this guy trying to be. You try so hard to understand human sociology, and reasoning so much. I am not a cyber bully lol. Here an example of ExFP stressed 7th function Ti appears "lol you still used that mumbo jumbo function magic of yours lol". She acts very 3, 5 is there but not nearly as much. edu/events/commencement/archives/1969commencement/studentspeechhttps://www. In Jung's conception, she's definitely an extraverted thinking type but that isn't MBTI. I repeat going back and forth to get an accurate type of the person. Show me she is inferior Se or tertiary Se. The statement you just proposed is self-evidence. I think she's direct, pragmatic, realistic, and a go-getter, but in no way does she show off those traits in a way that would suggest she's an extraverted sensor. But that is because I don't see the point of it. Caught up in pointing out others’ inconsistencies, with a dogmatic tendency to adhere to one principle rather than seeing its distinctions. Hillary is more hawkish than Trump. org/my-mbti-personality-type/mbti-basics/sensing-or-intuition. At the same time she can't say, "Yeah I lost. They need to fix that. Her tactic is nearly the same as Trump, but the difference is that she is a bad player. She looked more extroverted in the 90s, but we've seen more of her now. com/michael-melcher/hillary-clinton-misunders_b_76282. Nonetheless, Intellect is probably best regarded as one aspect of openness to experience. com/2016/02/17/nite-vedain-book-import/). She is clearly Te. Your level of emotionality is $flev. She is playing the idea of Russian influencing the election. huffingtonpost. Donald Trump sees twitter is a the new platau of social media, it can allow him to bypass the newsmedia (strong Se mofo), where is Hillary Se. This is an obvious ESTJ trying to behave like an ESTP. Your score on Openness to Experience is low, indicating you like to think in plain and simple terms. honestly i might consider it over 3, since her introversion explains her 5 side. You are in the best place to test MBTI and learn what type Hillary Clinton likely is!. Most of her campaign was her donor, news reporter, and famous hollywood actor. To me Hillary Clinton is a stress out ESTJ. Hillary is ESTJ and that is final. Intellect is an intellectual style, not an intellectual ability, although high scorers on Intellect scoreslightlyhigher than low-Intellect individuals on standardized intelligence tests. "Not staying true to yourself" isn't really a good indicator of sensing to me all. And under the assumption she does this, why is it something 5s couldn't heavily rely on. Another characteristic of the open cognitive style is a facility for thinking in symbols and abstractions far removed from concrete experience. Sounds like 3 adaptability and SJ conformity. Based off of her book, INFJ, she clearly saw the evils in our country and tried to defend us from them. Biggest failure in the history of modern politics. She has somewhat of a 1-like attitude but she doesn't seem to be truly driven by actual 1-related motivations—at least not enough for it to be her core type. Her tactic is nearly the same as Trump, but the difference is that she is a bad player. She is probably that one. They enjoy riddles, puzzles, and brain teasers. She seems to do the latter. And I still don't see how anything you're saying corresponds to her type. I'm not saying she's 3 cause she's running for president. These are self-assessments and the way you're describing it implies Ns can't not be open. " Hardy har har. So yeah I am willingly to accept criticism of my typing. )INTJ http://www. Another reason why she isn't Ni, because she wants to be a novelty(the first female US president). She'll be whatever type she has to to get elected. "A 5 wouldn't rely so heavily on slander and lash out at people for losing. Psychological conservatives prefer the security and stability brought by conformity to tradition. Read Carl Bernstein's biography of her; it's a pretty solid portrait of an xNTJ. The DNC and RNC. INTJs are interested in ideas and theories when observing the world.. She is 100x better than that clown. ) but has an idea-centric way of explaining her opposition's arguments. I don't get any extroversion from her during the 2016 campaign. I think she's an INTJ who forces any E and S qualities you might see to succeed in politics. e: about her being sniper rifle shot. Also she's not a visionary, her views adapt with the times. Ne focus on alternate possibilty based on already developed/accepted concept/criterion. Js care more about things being the same. Bush, John Kasich, Rand Paul, Rick Santorum, Martin O'Malley, Lincoln Chafee, Jim Gilmore, Mike Pence, Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, Barbara Bush, Michelle Obama, Darrell Castle, etc. She been campaign and political activist for her entire life. She also use $1,2 billion during the campaign. She backed out to defend herself to tell the other instinctively backed off by doing the stop hand sign at 2:06. The intellectual style of the open person may serve a professor well, but research has shown that closed thinking is related to superior job performance in police work, sales, and a number of service occupations. She is saying she is innocent and was hard working and everyone else were being shady and blindside her, including the DNC. Inferior Fi, she support things she actually says both on or off campaign. Hillary is a smart women. The media states she has 95% chance. You can point to superfluous things like "she ran a relatively traditional campaign" or "her political views are pretty normal" to say that she exhibits SJ qualities, but the fact is throughout her career she has been oriented towards trying to change as much as possible. The internet will suffice. Oh would you look at that. I am glad you asked. "Trump was better than me" would be a downright bizzarre thing to say. Although they respect (tertiary Te), they felt it too conflicted (trickster Ti). I think with her being introverted (and judging), this is something that comes to her more naturally than her competitors and makes her able to cope with her sphere’s demand for being “perfect. A 5 cares about intellectual honesty and finding truth. Ti is my 5th function. Everyone's opinions are subject to changing, but judging exactly how much her actual opinions are changing isn't an easy thing to gauge considering she's wearing a public mask.
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