John Lennon Myers-Brigs type - MBTI, enneagram and personality type info
randomguy confirmed what I thought, so I settled on ENFP over ENTP. I think INFP's may have a very aggressive Fi, especially if going through tense situations making them pull over Te. Lenon is an obvious Intuitive. Which has been adressed earlier down this page. Being Sx/So he can look E or F, but he was nothing of that. INTPs are well known for their brilliant theories and unrelenting logic, which makes sense since they are arguably the most logical minded of all the personality types.. He was an INFP with good social skills. ", "There are no problems, only solutions. Sure, he's not a freaking genius like Paul McCartney, but talentless. "If someone thinks that love and peace is a cliche that must have been left behind in the Sixties, that's his problem. I think he's an introvert who tries to embody this persona. The issue is more with the fact that he didn't lived according what he was saying. Not necesarly an argument for wounded Fi tough, it could have been simply a rationalization after the fact. Have you read the fantasies Lennon wrote. Hum, Strawberry Fields Forever. One thing for sure is he has a huge ego, but it's possible to anyone in his position is his era, when all women just chased after him. How more NP than that do you want. He has very quick wit, and can come off as random at times. I can't see any other type, personally. It's shocking how very few people on here agree with me on ENTP for him. He was a schizoïd and often an insensitive asshole. Infp pplz obviously111. In fact most of his post-beatles songs are honest. I've always been a freak. The thing is, I don't think being warm around close ones has anything to do with Fe or Fi. Love and peace are eternal. But I don't think he's an extrovert. He did declare himself "Bigger than Jesus. Evolution and all hopes for a better world rest in the fearlessness and open-hearted vision of people who embrace life. But overall I have to say ENTP. more like ENTJAgreed with Ne-Dom but there is a sh*t load of Fi in there. Ya he's ENTP or INTP. I'll answer that it IS the hardest thing to achieve as an artist and a songwriter. But he was definitely xNTP, not an F. Seeing McCartney as an introvert is truely a joke IMO. I don't know how you can listen to. Love and peace are eternal. Welcome to MBTIBase - PersonalityBase, here you can learn about John Lennon MBTI type.. we all shine on. If it was that easy, everyone would just live and act accordingly to their belief, and most people (sociopaths aside) would behave in the best way possible. These generalizations are absurd. A man with the best intentions can do a lot of wrong things. He just got tired of it all at the end. His Fi was just too strong. This isn't my rationale, but out of the NP's, INTP makes the least sense. Same thing as Bowie as typing goes for me. INFJs are visionaries and idealists who ooze creative imagination and brilliant ideas.. Did Lennon honestly wanted to change himself but he had too much bitterness in him. The same way ENTP may look more pessimist when ENFPs are the ones most likely prone to depression. Even if not directly tested, public voting can provide good accuracy regarding John Lennon Myers-Briggs and personality type!. Yoko is probably one of his huge influence in this too. And it's not like FI users were the only one being able to reflect on their incapacities anyway. Bigger than Jesus could have as easily been ENTP. We need to learn to love ourselves first, in all our glory and our imperfections. ", "I believe in everything until it's disproved. Can you give an example of him using Ti. "I'm not going to change the way I look or the way I feel to conform to anything. Jung theorized that the dominant function acts alone in its preferred world: exterior for extraverts and interior for introverts.. ENTPs aren't aggressive, they engage in debates yes, in a Socratic manner however. So I've been a freak all my life and I have to live with that, you know. Also, this a guy who said that as a young boy he liked to create imaginary worlds in his mind after the model of Lewis Carrol, and explore ''the affective corners of his mind''. ", "Surrealism had a great effect on me because then I realised that the imagery in my mind wasn't insanity. No violence in ENFP. Well, If he's an ENFP or INFP, it's surely not easy to see his Te, but rather his Ne or Fi, but if he's ENTP or INTP, then his Ti must be easy to see. One of his quotes even says that he believes in dragons, because who says dreams aren't real just because they are in your mind. ", "Part of me suspects that I'm a loser, and the other part of me thinks I'm God Almighty. I find it hard to believe an F type, especially INFP would be as domineering, arrogant and abusive as he was. Listening to him in interviews, he makes connections in a intuitive way. So he's either INFP or ENFP, but I voted ENFP because I found his Te snaps are stronger than that of INFPs. ENFP is more like it. So I've been a freak all my life and I have to live with that, you know. Fi and Ne are among his functions, yes but I just can't identify with him. He is probably an ENTPNight, let me use your logic: The way he acted in school. I don't know where that stems from. Lennon is a classic example of INFP confident he had nothing extro himself spoke that this was just a cover, and that during his term peace and love he had had enough of everything. The fact he acted violently does not make him ESTP (and what does it say about your views on ESTP or Se users. The ISTJ shadow is the worst when it grips you, IMO. "You don't need anybody to tell you who you are or what you are. Jim Morrison yes, Kurt Cobain maybe, but John Lennon. I'm one of those people. I know several ENTPs who may pass as introverted. But John Lennon is 'idealistically' nice to people as a whole (the concept of love for humanity, peace on earth, etc), but not necessary nice to people close to him, which I found a striking Fi trait. What do you make of Guevara typed ENFP for instance. The Lyrics from Paul are way more simple than John's. McCartney is not ISFP. As for him being a sarcastic smartass, that isn't exclusive to T types. He was raised by his aunt, never knew his father who abandoned him and he only reacquainted with his mother for a short time when he was a teenager before she was killed. "Typer: good question. Keep reading to learn more about what goes into your Myers-Briggs personality type—and maybe discover what yours is.. Makes him more of a contrast to Paul, who was definitely definitely definitely SFJ and it astounds me that anyone would think he was any kind of P. The dude was abusive. If we cannot love ourselves, we cannot fully open to our ability to love others or our potential to create. McCartney: ISFP. The way he acted in school. Ne dom seems obvious. I'm not absolutely sure but I think he's not NT. The only reason people here might think he is an INFP is because of Celebritytypes. Can you find more Ne-ish. Yeah, I'm not sure if he was introverted or extroverted on further study. Just with being a decent person, which Lennon obviously wasn't. Listen to God, Mother, Working Class Hero and tell me that it's simple. An INFP could not do so with Fi-Te grip. Can he be enneagram 8. fe externalizing his morals. Their ISFP page is atrocious. the words of the people who knew him make more sense (His first wife, Cynthia,the other Beatles) than this bitter piece of article, which is not a reliable source. Well he's definitely not an INFP. Also, @impeccable has a good point about him showing a lot of Fi. The fluxus, the happenings, it's conceptual and devoided of the authenticity NF types strive for. No, sorry can't see that. ", "We were all on this ship in the sixties, our generation, a ship going to discover the New World. This split in vote is quite ridiculous, he's something between ENTP and INFP. He did write about his struggles. Who's to say that dreams and nightmares aren't as real as the here and now. There's no way to assess Lennon wasn't sincere, he was a troubled man who struggled with himself most of his life. Or was he simply an hypocrite in his soul, as well as in his actions. I don't know why so many people think he's INFP. An intuitive can't be violent, selfish etc. Also the evidence he's more of a feeler than thinker:. an INFP would never be abusive towards people. All you need is love or Imagine are not about him either, they are very impersonal songs but he could very well be talking to himself, engaging himself to change. When we are in love, we open to all that life has to offer with passion, excitement, and acceptance. Also, Lennon was not such a likeable guy, he had qualities and an undeniable talent. When it comes to ENP I think he was an unhealthy one in a loop, considering his behavior. Anyway, it's more the fact that he really preachy about those things he himself didn't do. Usually Fe users, even on lower stack, are fiercely protective of their circle of friends and family, even compromise their logical accuracy to meet these people halfway (I've seen this trait in many ENTPs and ESTPs). Ni because of how he stated that all religions are teahing the same thing, but is miundertood. ", "There are two basic motivating forces: fear and love. ENFPs are more in your face kind of aggressive especially with regards to their ideals, ENTPs mostly play devil's advocate instead. ENTx certainly. I think I'm settled with Lennon as an ESTP and Yoko as an INFJ. How can that be Se. ", "Everything will be okay in the end. Lennon's complex in life with his parents doesn't make up to all his behaviors either. While an ENTP might pass as more of an antisocial, he will generally be warmer to his close friends and family, an ENFP would have a more idealistic facade and be self-centered and more egoist with his close ones. Lennon, talentless. He has no Fe whatsoever, so I don't understand ENTP votes. makes me think he was an ISTP. His quotes also reflects he has a lot of Fi such as:. John Lennon was the definitely the main talent in the Beatles, whatever type he was. No definitely not a 5. "his song lay have "sound" NF, bu his lyfestyle was T. Also, a simple thing, Paul and Ringo being ESFPs, don't you think three Se doms would make a different kind of music. ,ENTP 8w7 Sx/Sp, no question. How objective does that sound. ", "Reality leaves a lot to the imagination", "If someone thinks that love and peace is a cliche that must have been left behind in the Sixties, that's his problem. Integrates to 9 during the second half of his life. " That seems pretty ENTJ to me. Harrison: INFJ. " is being honest with his troubles. You are in the best place to test MBTI and learn what type John Lennon likely is!. What I meant with the Fe/Fi dichotomy in EXXP types is that I found in real life that while ENTPs (and ESTPs too) may outwardly look more cynical towards humanity in general, more individualistic, they will actually care more about their friends whereas ENFPs (and ESFPs too) may pretend to like people, to be concerned by humanity, showing themselves as idealists when in fact they can be very self-centered and egoist. "I believe in everything until it's disproved. His songwriting is simple. I say either xstp or xnfj. His agressivity may look like inferior Fe, he definitely has a problem with his feeling function whatever his type is. The way he made fun of Brian Epstein for being a "fag Jew" seems pretty Eric Cartman as well. I thought of Lennon as a Ti-dom with inferior feeling at some point, but I came to the conclusion that the majority was right here, he was most probably a Ne dom. And yeah, there's nothing to prove S over N in that article. The fact that Lennon wasn't decent does not prove he wasn't an intuitive. So I believe in fairies, the myths, dragons. Listen to The Plastic Ono band album, he's putting his heart out. It all exists, even if it's in your mind. He's quite and ass but any type that is raised in unhealthy environment can be like that too. "All you need is love" "Imagine" "Woman" "Give peace a chance" The list goes on. Ne doms are very prone to change (especially when it comes to ideas). But there isn't anything compelling against ENTP, which happens to make the most sense with his showy nonconformism. " question, I ask "Why Te > Ti. Would a strong Fi users change into some abusive, violent person just because their parents left them. What you're pointing out is not sensation over intuition at all, it's Fi against Fe. Especially if you type McCartney as an introvert when he was by far the more extroverted of the four. He might have been control by his inner demons. come on and on and on.
. That's what I thought, but he is too assertive an says too much bullshit to be INTP in my opinion. This is not the real world. INTP in my opinion, I see him more as a Ti dom than an Fi dom, but definitely not extrovertedti becaue he has stated that the disicples have twisted is words and is looking for the ource of the problem. I don't see how is he not an Fi type as opposed to Fe. Now that I remember, like a year ago I got the book The Jonh Lennon Letters and his writing made me realize he was ENFP instead of INFP, which was what I was thinking all the time. For Fi doms it may come to authenticity of emotional values but that does not mean they are the only type being faithful to theses values. He's too imposing in interviews to be INP tough, INPs words can be blunt and cut deep, but their lack that effective imposing demeanor that Lennon displayed. Discover Array, and more, famous people, fictional characters and celebrities here!. He's too cold to be FP and too temperamental to be TP. Somebody who's abusive is abusive regardless of his type. He's a classic example of a counterphobic 6. Keep in mind the auxiliary can be very hard to master (especially when the tertiary is strong, and the assertiveness Lennon displayed in the 70's is very Te IMO) and is the keypoint of the whole personality. If I don't know a real INTPs I would say INTP, but NTPs are pretty warm in real life. If it's not okay, it's not the end. Lennon's mother was ran over by a drunk police officer who was off-duty at the time. Non-conformism can take many shapes and forms and can be associated with more than one types but if one cognitive function is especially about non-conformity, uniqueness and individuality its Fi, which Lennon shows alot. I mean a guy who writes "How can I have feeling when I don't know if it's a feeling. It's not about belief. I personally have trouble seeing anything but ENTP. ", "It's weird not to be weird. ESTP is ridiculous for a guy who actively valued imagination over reality (''reality leaves a lot to the imagination''). "Reality leaves a lot to the imagination. I've always been a freak. Lennon never changed his belief. Surrealism to me is reality. Think a bit of her carreer and her work. In this site you can find out which of the 16 types this character 'John Lennon' belongs to!. Ono is not a feeler. And his quotes are clearly Ne(si)+Fi(te)+4(5)+7(6)+9(8): "I'm not going to change the way I look or the way I feel to conform to anything. Every type has its own integrity. When we are afraid, we pull back from life. And it's just not true that integrity is only a Fi trait. Still, looking through his interviews I think he's more Ne-dominant than Fi. I'm one of those people. Although it's rare but there is xNFP with enneagram 8. IMO He was just bratty. Working Class Hero is probably his most Fi sounding song, but that's not to add to the discussion. People listen to imagine and assume he must have been an NF but if you truly analyze his personality I think he seems more xNTP. He use very Fi and have strong confidence in his experience. And the Beatles were in the crow's nest of that ship. I think he was INTP. He's a tough cookie. The way he explores language, use puns, even his witty and sometimes acerbic humour is typically Ne. I might as well reserve the initial assumption of him being an ENFP. Plus, he was a schizoid. This personality type is highly individualistic and Champions strive toward creating their own methods, looks, actions, habits, and ideas!. ENFP 6w5 sx/so. He could've been an ambivert as well. I'm sorry but I just don't find any sense in typing lennon ESTP and Ono INFJ. Even if you discard all the crudeness in his behavior, according the man himself, he aspired for a world of peace and idealism, accepted all religions as true albeit tarnished with time etc. His songs are very idealistic. He tolled others to be pacifist, instead of writing about his struggles with not being able to be one. He said that his mother was killed by a drunk driver and he wasn't caught, or was released or something like that, and Lennon poured that rage towards other people. His wit and total lack of order, his constant shifting of identity, his sarcastic humor. The Beatles are a band. You are what you are. Listen to Jealous Guy or How. So I believe in fairies, the myths, dragons. But is he really a 5. Being mean to women doesn't rule him out for being an NF though. After a long pondering, I think he's probably xNTP highly influenced by NF era (the '60s). ", "We all shine on. In response to the "Why Fe > Fi. What happened to Lennon was this, he went through several cycles of his personality as a child to read a lot, live in their abstract world and be quite repressed by his relatives, he had not a shred of self-confidence, with time Lennon was already sick of it and decided to change, and so took the bad boy personality over time he became sick again and joined the peace and love doing like a synthesis of his personality. So no idea, lol. Here you can explore of famous people and fictional characters.. How can I feel something if I just don't know how to feel. This guy is not my type LMAOobvious ENFP with strong TeWhy do ENTPs and INFPs like to emulate each other. It all exists, even if it's in your mind. Da man don't speakLennon is sheer and unmistakable Fi type and since most agree he is an Ne dom, ENFP seems like a good choice. In general, ENTP would be more aggressive than ENFP but I guess you can have some rare cases where it isn't the case. If you enjoyed this entry, find out about the personality types of Music and Music Industry characters list.. Yup, something is sure that he doesn't have Fi, as he doesn't stay true to his belief. I'm still uncertain if he's an INTP or ENTP, though. Our cognitive functions matter because it's our default state of mind. someone who challenges the rules. He's a clear ENFP who has practically no Fe, and he's also an obvious Ne dom. He poses as an idealist while being a tough selfish guy in real life, sometimes even capricious. ", "Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns it calls me on and on across the universe. What is the best option for the MBTI type of John Lennon? What about enneagram and other personality types?. He was obnoxious and domeenering with women. But even so, it has always been INFP, what has changed is just their wants and desires. If you watch any documentary on The Beatles history you'll find out how introverted he was, he would stay at his house reading without interacting with any person for weeks. Great post randomguy. None of what you say can apply to typing someone. There are a few confessional lyrics (''I was to be cruel to my women, And beat her and kept her from the things that she loved, Man I was mean but I'm changing my scene, And I'm doing the best that I can'') bur overall this kind of honest lyrics don't add up to the more preachy ones he had. I'll go with ENFP. No way he is INFP. Than again, I'm not sure how Fi manifest in Ne-Te looping ENFPs, does it loose itself on the way. Nobody disputes the fact that Bowie is a Fi user, yet he never had any belief and kept on changing his views on everything. In his case, you can rule out Fi from the possibility. But you're talking as if he (or everyone for that matter) was free to control his actions. I think he's enneagram 5 though, which is unusual for ENFPs that's why he could seem like an NT. ENFPs with Te are more aggressive than ENTPs. "If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd be peace. It's more about a whole view on humanity than about being warm with closed ones as I stated before, I found it hard to express this very idea. That's just so not INFP though. Fi auxiliary are known to have anger issues, this is why ENFPs are often linked to histrionic disorders. I can see clear Ne-Fi as well Te aggressiveness to him which makes a good case for ENFP. Who's to say that dreams and nightmares aren't as real as the here and now. Ringo: Never cared about him to do the typing. I assume Ne-Te would make more sense, because in his Beatles period he didn't have that histrionic and attention seeking attitude that Ne-Fe looping ENFPs have, but rather a very aggressive 'bad-boy' thing to him that unhealthy EFPs can have. Being faithful to your values on the other hand is indeed more Fi than Fe, and this is a quality he personally didn't possessed. Does not sound like an ENTP or an INFP. But ENxP can be quiet and reserved, and not very outgoing. He exhibits clear Fi imo. Thinking – Feeling, represents how a person processes information. Thinking means that a person makes a decision mainly through logic.. I've seen lots of ExFP act violently, lose control (crying like babies for no reason), being incapable of mastering their nerves and frustration. Fi does what Fi does, even in an unhealthy state. This is out of my curiosity why some people would see Ti in him. uk/news/article-3258235/A-cruel-greedy-selfish-monster-peace-loving-visionary-No-argues-blistering-book-John-Lennon-nasty-piece-work-epitomised-age-self-obsession. Plus, there's something very childish about ENFPs (and even INFPs to some extant) and the way they express their emotions, that is touching. Any type can be abusive. like the moon and the stars and the sun. Now the more I read his quotes, the more I believe him to be more of an INFP now. someone who challenges the rules. Part of me thinks he may have actually been ENTJ, given how much of a controlling, agressive dick he could be. Anyway his pattern of speech, being too nonchalant to be an INFP, and thinking is more likely Ne dominant. I would say estpChanged my vote to ENFP. Whatever he was, he was NP for sure.
. Makes sense now. That is, his stated beliefs and his actions didn't fall in line, which kinda goes against Fi. ENFP 4w5(+7w6,9w8) sx/so, though he's really close to an INFP and not that close an ENTP.
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