Lars Von Trier Myers-Brigs type - MBTI, enneagram and personality type info
All my arguments are meant to be piecemeal. Also CelebrityTypes suggests he has antisocial traits, IIRC. Just look at the whole nazi controversy and how full of provocations his movies are. They are these really reliable, unfaltering institutions of culture that deliver works that feel picked straight out of eternity. :DAttempt to steal von Trier to the INFPs: For example he has very casually admitted that he imposes weird restrictions on himself, perhaps most famously the Dogme manifesto, in order to give his movies something unique and allow "intellectual" audiences to relax and enjoy the melodrama. It's the general impression which I think has many powerful points for INFJ. But all this porn stuff could very well be inferior Se. Perhaps the most honest way would be to type some people "between". who try to make difficult art just to raise themselves above the masses which I believe is stupid because I think art is about inclusion and fellowship in the first place. I just don't get it. I don't actually identify that much with Cobain. '' By this statements, you would have to type yourself as INFJ. They are extroverted, idealistic, charismatic, outspoken, highly principled and ethical, and usually know how to connect!. Is INFJ "celebritytypes. I'm kinda like with Scotty with you, another user I both fight with and appreciate, but even with Scotty I had more laid-back conversations than with you, although I understand it's not your intent. Or even that weird documentary where he's having that guy remake the same weird, short movie under different rules. The guy is so unhealthy it's hard to type him anyway. And then you go on to write tons of books about these societal issues, slowly becoming the Japanese Dickens while filling your novel full of mystical metaphors you understand on some nascent level but claim, winking, have no actual meaning while even your translator Jay Rubin asserts that they most obviously do. Even INTJs and stuff. Very difficult man to type imo. When you put it like that his way of being very provocative is very similar to Marilyn Manson. Why should one take the word of one's translator above the word of the author. :( And I feel like I've had some pretty peaceful discussions, like recently about Tarkovsky, and also joking about me working for CelebrityTypes. ''I feel like you are constantly moving between complete disbelief of everything I have ever said and nearly complete acceptance'' Ha-ha, I'm a bit ashamed to recognize that ,but it's true. I mean, I don't think you simply try to rise up controversy on this site for no reason as evidence that you really back up your claims, but it would be niece if we could have some relaxed chats from time to time where we simply agree with stuff. Beware that in case of your marriage with Trier he'll change and start making rom-coms. One could argue he had to train his Si for a young age, so later in his life all those stuff come naturally to him. He's neurotic, but it seems to me to be in a different way than the self-conscious way INFPs typically are. Because Bergman thought you were a real genius :DAren't INFJs supposed to know everything. < I guess he's just a very well-rounded genius, and perhaps the drugs/drinking/mental illness have done something to him too. Or just the way he filmed Dogville without proper sets. When you've got all that covered, you can have Murakami totes. On the other hand, I guess he is Fe-ing "the perfectly honest, trickster artist". Also, running marathons, liking classical music, food, routine, all those things could very well be Si as well. My argument is not meant to rest solely on any of these points though. But I guess even that is a purposeful thing that plays into the whole as well. Discover Array, and more, famous people, fictional characters and celebrities here!.
. That dream clearly tells you not to let Lars von Trier marry your mom. Anyway, I wonder why the Danish movie industry is so awesome. I think I'm probably more similar to the typical, extreme INFP than I am to the typical, extreme INFJ. The second letter in the personality type acronym corresponds to the preference within the sensing-intuition dimension: “S” stands for sensing and “N” stands for intuition.. But the point is to bring people together (protector) while making them aware of their mistakes (critic). ''I'm annoyed by directors etc. I think he is a very intuitive person, his movies are disturbingly singular in themes even when they appear not to be, he is focused on weird ideas in an obsessive way, Nymphomaniac is one such obsessive long story revolving around a single idea. This night I dreamed that my mom had divorced and married Lars von Trier. Him being a jazz bar owner was from what I understand necessary as to avoid being a salary man, so it was kind of a life or death situation for him. :( I don't even perceive how I'm never relaxed. I wonder if I'm doomed to at best be someone like Del Toro or Argento. And it's such a small country too. And as for the strangeness of his movies. Honestly he seems far more Ne to me than Ni with the weird rules of Dogme 95 or deciding to do a trilogy of artistic genre movies (The Depression Trilogy). Even if not directly tested, public voting can provide good accuracy regarding Lars Von Trier Myers-Briggs and personality type!. You know, Lynch clearly knows what those stuff in his movies mean, as evidence by the countless people that find complex philosophical explanations for his movies, so he's clearly a very philosophically complex person. Also, honestly I think Murakami means a lot, lot more to me than he does to you. They have many great actors too. I don't see why Colonel Sanders=capitalism, necessary points to Ni. Yeah, you're probably right. It's not like he sold the book on a "special insights concerning the weirdness of Murakami's surrealism" sales claim. I thought Lars von Trier was such a cool guy, and then I did something wrong and he got really mad at me and screamed at me and I wasn't sure whether to be mad at myself for failing Lars von Trier or mad at Lars von Trier for being mad at me. I, for example don't see why any of those things you say about Murakami and society are Fe, and not simply him being NF. geniusBecause the translator is speaking from knowing Murakami personally and he attests; IIRC, that Murakami is being playful when he principally denies there is meaning to the surrealism. A lot of it is quite obvious though, as I tried to point out on the Murakami page. Almost a walking stereotype for INFJ males. < (Perhaps Fi/Fe crash. At the same time, he seems too confident for an INFP. But I think the solution to this is not that my system is wrong or that Murakami has a lot of INFJ traits, but that I try to make everyone out to be like the INFJ and INFP stereotypes. You are strangely convincing, at the same time I don't understand why you don't talk more about the people you think are INFP, this way we could put INFJ and ISFP better in your system side by side. In fact I became so interested in Nicolas Winding Refn in the first place this spring when I watched some of his older movies and that famous documentary and realized he was an INFP. If I followed the identification/same type thing that Bobnickmad sometimes argues for, I would probably identify as INFJ on account of people like Lars von Trier, Dostoyevsky, J. Classical music as well, it's not really the most Se type of music there is. Se is not the only function that deals with sensory stuff. com syndrome". It's not like INFPs aren't capable of metaphors, specially rather simple and fun one's. Maybe it's my So/Sp that makes me somewhat fundamentally impersonal. I feel like you are constantly moving between complete disbelief of everything I have ever said and nearly complete acceptance. Metaphors and themes between his books intersect and reflect each other as his views change. Because I've always been very reluctant to accept this common typing of him. For example Colonel Sanders in Kafka on the Shore is quite obviously supposed to represent mechanical capitalism without any human input/pure evil or something like that. And then as you become older, you become more and more interested in Se-pursuits, living almost like a soldier, forcing yourself to work out for 3+ hours a day in all kinds of sports, all the while obsessing with food and classical music. The epiphany thing and sudden decision to write is the only thing that points towards INFJ till now. Weird predicament to be in for an INFP, being too impersonal. Isn't this very pragmatic and unromantic. Rowling and Lars von Trier, who I admire and identify with the most and want to be the most like, are to be fair probably some kind of thing between INFJ and INFP - same as myself. I've never met an INFJ that is this straightforward. I guess there is something very Ti about playing with rules and stuff. I still feel like most people have some kind of "main type" though. In this site you can find out which of the 16 types this character 'Lars Von Trier' belongs to!. After all, most people are going to be around the middle on most scaling systems. I think his F-ness, by the way, is clear from his interests and the high emotionalism of his movies. The Danish movie industry might be the best from the 2000's along with the Korean IMO. And his weirdness, like filming without a set or making a pornographic art film, is usually a single weird thing he does really carefully rather than something full of strange ideas like David Lynch or Refn's movies (Ne). It's kind of a Fi-fixation for me because I was really scienty/philosophcal for a while and really took that "humans are not reliable" thing seriously. Ni-dom is convergent, he would knew damn well how his last chapter should finish if he was INFJ. I think he's a bit too old for me. < I am contrarian, but basically in the sense that I only bother voicing concerns for unpopular causes. I think upon closer inspection his respect of individualism is very dispassionate and societal though, and the surrealism/strangeness is actually quite elaborate, as said. That's not Ni-dom. As for the people you dislike, I guess I'm just drawn/identify with antisocial artists and just got lucky with Winding Refn, lol. I think his Ni is extremely strong and totally crazy and his Fe isn't as developed in comparison. I like stuff from some of these people, but I feel you owe me someone I actually like all the way. Not all sports are necessary Se in nature, you sound like stereotyping Se with sensing in general. Also, INFJ being Ni-Ti tend to know quite well how every element plays in the whole, so they wouldn't say they don't know why they choose one thing over the other, or that they could change it anytime. Hey, what about our messages. Maybe when you've happily run a bar for 10 years and you after watching baseball have a Ni-epiphany to finally write that novel which is really not especially passionate, just about your disconnect to society. The MBTI questionnaire sorts people into one of 16 different personality types.. There are even successful STJ sports-men, and we're talking about more Se like sport like football or tennis. I respect how much you put in your arguments, but I'm antagonized by what I percieve to be your contrarian attitude. Most of the artists I like and identify with are in fact not INFPs and I don't necessarily talk that much about them on here either, in some cases because we instantly agreed on their type and in others because I think they are so uncontroversial or they just don't come up. Might explain why I have such difficulties getting friends and stuff. Always sad because Bergman never replied to his fan letters. I don't know much about Von Trier, (I've only seen Dancer in The Dark which is good even though it's overly dramatical) but Fe auxiliary can be very provocative, look at Vikernes or Marilyn Manson for example. So, we either base ourselves only on what the author says, or Lynch and Kubrick are clear N types like this people on this site argued all this time. (Si) Would an INFJ talk like that. I think I make sense though with Ne/Fi and stuff when all these people you name come out as INFPs. Also, the guy said he didn't knew how to finish Hard Boiled Wonderland while he was at his last chapter, he then came with 3 possibilities, and eventually choose one of them, but he's not sure if he was the right one, and he could change it any time. INFPs, like most introverts, are quiet and reserved. They prefer not to talk about themselves..
. I don't see much Extraverted Feeling either. I am the stone in your fucking shoe. Translator who is also a guy making money from selling books that claim those things. Running marathons requires patience, training, monotony, stuff that fits better with Si. Jung theorized that the dominant function acts alone in its preferred world: exterior for extraverts and interior for introverts.. I've no idea what this dream meant or why I'm telling you here. Like when they take breaks from the main story and talk about other things. Welcome to MBTIBase - PersonalityBase, here you can learn about Lars Von Trier MBTI type.. Imo David Lynch is a lot more similar to most typical ISFPs than most typical INFPs and Lars von Trier is more similar to most INFJs than most INFPs. It's sort of like a cloak he wears rather than something that seems truly sincere. Everyone has to be EITHER an extreme INFP or an extreme INFJ, and that just captures a lot of people badly. No, Murakami is mine. #butterfly, Oh and Cobain is totally ISFP btw, so if I can't have Murakami, neither you can have Cobain. Also he is apparently really nice to his actors and famous for being extremely good with them, though there was that big thing with Bj. You have to marry him instead. < So if you see this as a battlefield for people we like and don't like. So maybe he's an ENFP. Here you can explore of famous people and fictional characters.. Especially love Anders Thomas Jensen. For example Dario Argento is a very "typical", pure INFP perhaps - whereas Nicolas Winding Refn is somewhere between INFP and ISFP/ISTP probably. Keep reading to learn more about what goes into your Myers-Briggs personality type—and maybe discover what yours is.. Start plotting now. Probably a Ni-dom to be fair then, but an unusual one. ) @bobnickmad: Lol, sometimes I worry that I have a negative self-image and that it controls my highly subjective MBTI system which is maybe just nonsense anyway. This always makes my day https://www. I think that is the complete wrong way to go about this. On the other hand, I think the INFP typing of Murakami is heavily "stereotyped". The only real reason to type him that seems to me to be his respect of individualism and the surrealism/strangeness of his books. Those people find symbolism in anything. I don't really know but this is how I see him. I'm always trying to be "objective" even when it leads to surprising answers. "Mysterious", mystical, obsessed with sex and death, etc etc etc. And the main story consists of many smaller episodes that stand very well on their own. And I remember an interview where he says this digressive, literary structure was something he did on purpose. What's an STFC patient. And there is just something so thorough to his movies and everything. You are in the best place to test MBTI and learn what type Lars Von Trier likely is!. The moment we take editors/translators/critics words above the authors, we enter in a negative zone of typing. Not to say you're one, you're most likely INFP, but some of the thing you argue as INFJ point obviously aren't, since you also identify with them. If you enjoyed this entry, find out about the personality types of Acting and Movie Industry characters list.. Nymphomaniac is digressive too though. I guess there is a sort of pattern to me being well-reasoned and controversial at the same time though, I simply don't bother to write on pages where I'm in agreement with the majority. This could also be a symptom of being in proximity of an STFC patient. Murakami is kind of like how I would like to be ideally, but to be fair I'm pretty sure he is an INFJ too. Oh God, why are you always trying to defend as INFPs people I feel antipathic towards -in the way they present their art (Refn, Trier), or I'm ambivalent towards -as in being inconsistent (Tim Burton, Del Toro, Argento). Heh, you don't owe me anything, don't worry, but still. As much as I like his movies, I have never found the man particularly F-like in his ideas, that is to say that neither of his F functions appear like they normally should for other people, not saying he isn't F type. But don't wowwyyy. What is the best option for the MBTI type of Lars Von Trier? What about enneagram and other personality types?. I wonder if no matter how hard I struggle, I will always be a bit too idiosyncratic and unbalanced, like Nicolas Winding Refn and Kierkegaard, always seeking and never finding balance, or perhaps I have the whole INFJ/INFP distinction wrong, lol. so you could be right about him Fe-ing all this stuff. He seems relatively normal in the written interviews I've read of him, though. I feel these are really the best artists. By which I mean that we are very biased, controlled by emotions, etc. What we lack in MBTI are these gliding scales. K Rowling, etc. Yeah, you have a point with what you posted. v=QpUqpLh0iRw XD It's pretty obvious he's not serious, of course, so I just love how awkward and absurd it is@amelie: I totally agree about what you say about him being very singular and focused in the way he does his movies, they are these powerful wholes.