Lelouch Lamperouge Myers-Brigs type - MBTI, enneagram and personality type info
How about pictures. Strawberry, I think you don't know how psychodinamics and cognitive hierarchy works Thank you, dude. But he confidently tackles the unknown in a way that INTJs aren't really comfortable with. "Ruthless pragmatism" just sounds like the result of seeing things in a very clear, logical yet individual (against group values) way, which probably best translates to INTx. Good to see we understand each other on the MBTI point. INTJs are interested in ideas and theories when observing the world.. Loyal to their peers and to their internal value systems, but not overly concerned with respecting laws and rules if they get in the way of getting something done. Detached and analytical, they excel at finding solutions to practical problems.. 6's primary negative emotion is fear(Fight or Flight). Too sporadic to be Ni imo. Also he's the letter P in the official MBTI test. I understand the typing of Zero as ENTJ, but honestly, ENTJs lack the practically bombastic vision INTJs have, which Lelouch, who is Zero, has in spades. Look at the way he interacts with the other kids at the school. Within a note, CP 6w5s are resembling 8w9s on their surface and, certainly, Lelouch is not instinctual, not naturally intrepid and more resentful than revengeful which are traits that discard a 8, let us remember that enneagram is moved by principles and motivations rather than behaviors. In MBTI terms, he would be enthusiastic (rather than quiet), active (rather than reflective) and probably more ambivalent on initiating/receiving, expressive/contained, and gregarious/intimate, but I do think that should be enough to push him over the line to the extravert category. " Lelouch always runs to hide in his batcave at Ashford until he can come up with some master strategy. ” He sees all MBTI Feeling types as warm-hearted, but essentially, illogical and irrational due to shallow stereotypes. And the "nuance" of The Functions I mainly find in vaguely written archetypes, in a way that allows them to be bent in ways that allow them to bebent around people, rather than describing people in ways that differentiate 16 unique personalities. Phobic 6's tend to flee while counter-phobic 6's tend to fight. If you’re going by what I call armchair Myers-Briggs,(the kind you find on most websites) that’s fine. He is likely a Fe user. Isn't his purpose at the end to, aftermatch, make the world live in peace taking away all the world's hate with him. His Ni is clearly surfaced and dominant. That is, using them as a tool for constructing dialogue and making characters sound different, giving them discomfort in certain situations a la inferior functions, etc. He is an INTJ with social mask. Scotty, but he is very focused, objective, organized, sequential, and natural strategic and HATES IMPROVISATION and loses control that is more Ni Te than Ti Ne. " These thoughts just don't seem to be a large part of his mental makeup, to the point where he often is just fighting for fragments of personal significance, and to win. Until I discovered them and the Enneagram, no personality system really reflected truth for me. Lelouch doesn’t self criticize as much as a 1 in his situation would, he really doesn’t feel a need to follow rules and just generally gives off a more expansive energy than 1w9. When does he really show "introversion". Clearly in his head all the time, he has to be a thinking type. If that's your argument he would be more of an ENTJ or ISTP, not INTP. And if you were to find Jung's type that best fits Lelouch, you'd probably be looking at the Extraverted Intuitive. In the 16 personalities quiz, I got INTP-A, with the weakest preferences being introversion (67%) and prospecting/perceiving (64%). Or maybe you already know about the functions and don’t like the system; though I find that unlikely given your misunderstanding of my post. Not like that has to be the case but if everyone is using the same idea to create characters it gets pretty stale. In that case, your reasoning goes something like “Lelouch spends a lot of time alone but he’s a great leader and has several friends; E and I too close to call. He might be misanthropic to an extent but he doesn't really move away from people at all, and his wiki page describes him as outgoing; I really don't think that's a stretch. He has a general idea of where he wants to be and is often backed into a corner where he comes up with a strategy spontaneously. He's clear 8 w7. But he's too idealistic to be either types, so INTJ, an idealised INTJ tough, as I don't see an INTJ being that confident irl as him either, but I definitey see it over INTP, as INTJ are more decisive. And the fragments are arguably used as excuses for continuing to play his dangerous game, even if there is some sincerity behind them, which seems about right for an NTP. If he had to lose time (because thats perfectly what school was) better use it on some pursuits that could actually improve his skills (chess and tactical ability or gambling when he lost his memories), because school crearly hadn't something to teach to him. He is charismatic and knows how to create an air of splendid theatricality, which is more common in INFJ's than INTJ's. I think most people think INTJ because function wise he seems to have Ni-Te. @Harbinger : Definintely usable, but rather either use it for a general frame of character that you'd twist around to make it less stale ; either use tiny elements associated with different types to add color to the character. I don't really think I would even consider him being I if he didn't have a negative view of people. I got 67% P by answering questions how I would expect him to".
. Haha why would 9's sacrifice themselves though. "Have a "tip of the iceberg" quality - they show little but you sense hidden dimensions, intensity and activity. Lelouch vi Britannia(True self): INTJ. It's not Jung but rather Harold Grant who is usually credited for the 4-function model that you described. (reason why most generals in history are ExTJ, as it needs to rapidly read correctly the battlefield and react accordingly). He has only one chance. How complicated his life. It's only a way of thinking that is compatible with Lelouch's fickle and adaptable nature; it doesn't make sense to type Lelouch with a letter that stands for a set of traits that aren't just absent from but also against how he operates. Everything you say is possible for an xNTP, Sthereo0. It's just a preferred method of dealing with things. My dad refused my last test of him in which he came out as ISFJ because he’s “not a feeler. Lelouch is Very strategic, tactic, visionary and concetred Guy. "Also he's the letter P in the official MBTI test. I prefer when the comments were blank on this page. Some of the stereotypes can be true but they paint in such broad strokes that people get easily confused about what they’re like. Imagine that, an NTP who can actually accomplish things. His style of playing chess is also intentionally unconventional which seems very NP, and he really only shows his true capabilities under pressure. He's not looking for power within it as whole purpose, he's looking for power to stablish world's peace, he doesn't get stimulated by challenges and new experiences, so 8w7 is highly discardable. I also kind of don't understand why Lelouch is voted an introvert either. Johan Liebert: INFJ. J would have a more static organized vision though, while P would see things more dynamically as Lelouch does. Nah he was just a perceiver with strong feelings about stuff who made a vow which he maybe didn't forget but he sure wasn't doing much about. Had Lelouch been doing anything like that, he would be getting hung up on the singularity of his decisions and planning his battles ahead of time… but Lelouch excels in his position because he's anything but that way. An INTJ with social skills and was well developed, but, unlike Raito, he had a vision of more Ni-Fi world, sacrificing himself for a future that he sees that it is better and less oppressive, denying control everything, but so creating the future and leaving everything in the hands of who he thinks he can follow through with your plan. Big vision = N, Lelouch is logical over emotional, T, Lelouch is flexible on the battlefield with his plans = P; Therefore, Lelouch = xNTP. Sarcasm detected. They are extroverted, idealistic, charismatic, outspoken, highly principled and ethical, and usually know how to connect!.
. If you’re not familiar with them, I’d highly recommend reading up. Still, there's no such thing as a Jungian INTP, or Jungian INTJ, or Jungian ENTP. As for Lelouch's behavior as a student, one should consider the context. And if you were trying to link his 8 types to MBTI types you'd have to flip the P/J for introverts, seeing as he clearly defined Pi types as those who lacked judging, not those who preferred it. INTJ 8w7 so/sx or so/sp. Even before he gained superpowers he prioritized relieving boredom. Lelouch: xNTJWhy 8w9. The debate should be about INTP vs ENTP really. P's don't "know" as much how to do stuff beforehand, because they rely more on figuring out how to on the spot, which is actually not quite as immediate. I’m interested in this stuff partly for real life application but mostly for literary creations. He doesn't have a pitiful ability to adjust plans with too many rapidly shifting factors. Are INTJ 7 a real phenomenon. I think the addition of this extra dimension does help to make someone like him more understandable from a personality model, as assertiveness/turbulence is often dealt with by function magicians by treating NJ/SP as assertive and NP/SJ as turbulent, probably without even realizing what a mess they are making out of MBTI by doing so. He might be less than average on positive emotions and warmth but I actually don't think he'd be so low here either. You are in the best place to test MBTI and learn what type Lelouch Lamperouge likely is!. Meh, I'm keeping my ENTP vote; it needs at least some representation here. If you enjoyed this entry, find out about the personality types of Code Geass characters list.. Lelouch is an ENTP. Julius Kingsley: ENTP. By contrast, in Jungian Function theory, all 16 types have 2 extraverted functions and 2 introverted functions, 1 sensing, 1 intuitive, 1 thinking, 1 feeling. Nuanced - I don't really understand this one. He's an introvert at the very least. I struggled with 1w9 so/sx vs 8w7 so, but finally settled on the latter. Why 8w7 and not 8w9. I think it's actually the opposite (an assertive perceiver). Lelouch isn'tremotelyjudging in all honesty. Not so confident about the enneagram type. Well, all N types are future-oriented, just in different ways. For anyone reading who’s interested in the difference and doesn’t know already. ENFP type 7w8. An xNTP would be more randomly and improve. I also really hope that you don't think that playing chess and gambling is something he legitimately saw as a pathway to changing the world. I'm sticking with INTJ, he is not reliant on personal manipulation but more behind the scenes and impersonal manipulation. 6w5 sx/so leading. Jungian INTP—Ti (Introverted Thinking), Ne (Extraverted Intuition), Si (Introverted Sensing), Fe (Extraverted Feeling). Maybe you’ll discover new sides of yourself, as I did. You got me convinced 100% thanks to thisimplacable argument All_in. You rise through the hierarchy by being TJ, mainly. He is not random like Izaya or L An INTJ as Masquerader. It's a consequence—I believe—of people imagining the "INTJ" archetype and fitting Lelouch into that, distorting his character and the things he stands for so much that I can't help but imagine people misinterpret so much about Code Geass in the process of doing so. Grand Ni vision and goals, ruthless pragmatism of auxiliary Te, occasional wrestling with Tertiary Fi, pitiful lack of Se athleticism and ability to adjust plans with too many rapidly shifting factors. Just like i explained on Chrollo's page there are two untrue stereotypes that are recurrent : 1 - NTJs necessarily deal better with the future than NTP 2 - NTP necessarily deal better with improvisation than NTJ. It's all clear now, the non-belivers think he's a nine because he sacrificed himsef. Makishima Shogo: ENTP. It's more situational things that put him in a situation where the whole world is like a chessboard for him. I guess 8w7 works, but he's really not far from 7w8 either. Even if not directly tested, public voting can provide good accuracy regarding Lelouch Lamperouge Myers-Briggs and personality type!. Compare him to Suzaku, his "mirror character," who wants to work from within the system to bring out a future Lelouch also sought, except Lelouch understood Suzaku's naïvete in wanting to change things without change things. "Grand Ni vision", "ruthless pragmatism", etc. In fact, his entire outlook is founded upon his seeing the world through lenses colored by futility and transcience. I agree with DiamondDust in that Lelouch is a P type. Lelouch also has all the paranoia and trust issues of a typical 6w5. I also agree with Ryugan and DiamondDust that he's way, way more 7 than 9. Maybe it's just cause he's so irritating with his playful cockiness with the world's future at stake. the 6w5 consensus seems kinda silly to me too. Yes he can be decisive when needed but he's mainly someone who prefers to keep things open. Enneagram’s trickier, definitely gut triad. He verbalizes his thought process (to the audience) and gives off somewhat of an illusion that he's J through how he "closes in on an option" after looking over certain possibilities and logically working through them but the point is that he isn't really "closing his options" like a judger would do so. He is definitely not a Feeler though. Maybe, I'm thinking inFj like the other people I've listed. Predicting the future is not really specific to NTJ over NTP, and his commanding style is extremely spontaneous and adaptive to the current situation, not like NTJs can't but that seems to be where he thrives the most. Keep reading to learn more about what goes into your Myers-Briggs personality type—and maybe discover what yours is.. You can see how he is entertained when unexpected developments happen which really isn't something that will happen with INTJs or even INTPs. As for the idea of "Jungian function theory", you are using the wrong name. Why should nuance be desired here. He and Kira are two INFJ's showing a well developed Ti. ENTP seems betterZero: ENTP. For example, when he tried to convince Suzaku to join him, he used a logical reasoning instead of an emotionnal reasoning, and he didn't really understand why Suzaku refused because he cannot understand his feelings, he sees things in a purely logical view. Being an INTJ, I can't really relate to whatever his cognitive process is. It seemed like he both had strongly held internal beliefs, coupled with basically just a desire for stimulation, which he probably would've done nothing with had he not gained those superpowers. What is the best option for the MBTI type of Lelouch Lamperouge? What about enneagram and other personality types?. I think Te, as a judging thinking function, has the perfect balance between logic, quickness that makes ETJ most prone to rapidly take the good decision. In fact that's what he does the whole show. He is more of an ambivert thinker, probably leaning to the introvert direction although he does have this need for stimulation which implies extraversion. Vision isn't really J, more like N. You can't observe someone like pre-Geass Lelouch in real life and actually think that everything he did was geared at some sort of goal. Harbinger19 I think characters are generally more interesting when the concept is more based on a unique insight into psychology rather than trying to fit 1 of 16 archetype models. If you’re not aware, I was typing by Jungian functions, which you don’t seem to be. And, about those comments of Zero being ENTJ. The thing very appealable from type Zero's persona is the enneagram, that seems something like a 3 or a 1w9. Other powerful mastermind villains/antagonists Lelouch may be like:. "YOU BETRAYED MEEEE," and all that. The deeper I go into personality typology, the less I feel I understand, whether it’s Socionics or what you’re referring to. For all these reasons my vote for him goes to ENTJ. Descriptions of these functions go far beyond the stereotypes in the armchair system, such as “Es like to party, Is don’t, S like details, N likes big picture, T is logical, F is emotional,” and so on. Nevertheless, most of the time we see he's mainly engaged with logic, so he's T over F. There are a lot of scenes where we can see that Lelouch is Te and not really Fe. I took the 25 quiz pretending I was him and came up with 1. also its sx/sp he cares for his inner circle of people(his sister) more than himself. The second letter in the personality type acronym corresponds to the preference within the sensing-intuition dimension: “S” stands for sensing and “N” stands for intuition.. I finally got around watching Code Geass sometimes ago. Here you can explore of famous people and fictional characters.. Two different people typing using the same function descriptions can sometimes even come up with results that share no functions in common (for example INTP vs INTJ). If you actually watched the show (as I did) You'll know that while he is a popular, attractive person desired by many of his peers for social interaction, he is practically socially inept. Other than that, he is stone cold emotionally, being why INTJ makes so much sense. There is a ton of overlap in The Functions, different descriptions, and typing by them inherently subjective and lacking clarity in the boundaries between types. Now it is soiled by intellectual semen. Thanks for the additional information, scotty. What are those if not stereotypes. At least Ne is more adept at dealing with improvising on the spot, if not the most physically focused. Jung did have his own function model and also 8 types, but never connected them to MBTI like that at all. 6ish worry and 5ish information addiction each in turn. "You know immediately how to deal with a situation" has the key word "know". Those letters look beautiful when you write them. he's visibly excited about the action he gets into, and an 8 wing would explain his assertive and assured behavior on the battlefieldI see the comment from ZRX-26 saying that he is a turbulent judger. Sorry for the rant, but I spend a lot of time on this stuff because I believe people would understand one another (and themselves) better if they knew more about these systems. Discover Array, and more, famous people, fictional characters and celebrities here!. I see ENTP tbh. Sadly, because of the pervasiveness of armchair MBTI, he has a hard time understanding that ISFJs use Extraverted Feeling, which is, when healthy, a perfectly rational and useful way of processing and relating to the world, as are all the 8 functions. He can't afford to "test out" things. I going with the thought that self sacrifice would be contradictory to type 7 so I just went the other way, but I guess you're right now that I think about it lol. Lelouch isn't even a gut type. I also believe him to be INTJ for the reason of his Fi. Welcome to MBTIBase - PersonalityBase, here you can learn about Lelouch Lamperouge MBTI type.. But not only that but the function descriptions vary from site to site, person to person, so what I end up seeing is people creating their own stereotypes of what each function means (such as "grand vision") and ending up with a result that is no more meaningful than the letters, only way less clear and way more subjective. Side note: I thought he was INTP before (more undecided on E vs I than anything), but the lack of actual self-sacrificing behavior disarms a J argument. As for generals, how do you become a general. And I’ll admit to stereotyping Ni; that’s easily the function I understand least, in any model. I'll finally add concerning this point that while Lelouch deals perfectly well with unpredicted situations that's not what's he intentionally looks for, most of the time he has things set up and programmed beforehand but the circumstances are always against him. First improvisation has more to do with Te than with Ne or Se. An INTJ generally is constantly asking "what is the ideal future, and how do I make it happen. It was a chore to watch. MBTI isn't the greatest tool to create characters tbh, but for secondary ones, it can be useful, and still better than Hogwarts houses (if you only knew how many people use those whne they create characters :B) I think it's the silliest thing that our favorite INTJ poster boy isn't actually an INTJ at all. INTJ 458 tritype INTJ’s easy. They are more likely to sacrifice opportunities to change things so they can sit back and lead a lazy life. Personally, I’ve rejected that system in favor of the less stereotypical and more nuanced Jungian functions. In this system, an INTP or ENTP has completely different functions and tremendously different thought process than an INTJ. In Big 5 terms, Lelouch would score high on excitement-seeking, activity, assertiveness, and would be maybe about average in gregariousness if not higher than average. He didn't, he's alive. Maybe it's because he's nuts but he just seems so self-absorbed, not so much in making the world a better place, but just in looking at the world as his toybox, sort of like Hisoka with a half of a soul, spontaneously adjusting to whatever the hell is going on around him but with rather shallow undeveloped goals. The thing is he seem very spontaneous, but, why not ENTJ so. Jungian Function theory: INTJ—Ni (Introverted Intuition), Te (Extraverted Thinking), Fi (Introverted Feeling), Se (Extraverted Sensing). I don't know how you could actually have enough of a brain to figure out how to make an account, and see more 9 than 7 in him. his perceiving is a more apparent, as he's very adaptable to different situations and gets that perceiving thrill of being able to come up with a new, unexpected way of approaching a sticky situation that can only be found in an ne user like lelouch. He tries to transpire rationality, but it is quite explosive and has a huge idealistic vision that at times end up overshadowing some of its plans. 7 seems like Ne doms. Lelouch really only shows an "introverted" sideat all because of his distrust of people. Plus, his power of Geass is so Eightish by nature. He can barely, if not actually realize if people like him or want to go out with him, and what's more, he never prefers socializing with a large group of people to being with one or two people. He's put so high standards on himself that attending classes arent an enough motivational activity J or not J. In this site you can find out which of the 16 types this character 'Lelouch Lamperouge' belongs to!. The confusion comes from his outrage at Britannia, but it’s an Eightish “the strong shouldn’t pick on the weak” idea rather than a Oneish idea. Armchair MBTI: INTJ— I = Intoverted, N = Intuitive, T = Thinking, J = Judging. Chaotic—I don’t, but at least I don’t pretend to know. i dont fully understand wing 9the 7th wing is about entertainment seeking can somebody please make any rational argument as to how he has more 8w9 votes than 8w7 or even 7w8. I got 67% P by answering questions how I would expect him to, even feeling like I was being generous for J with certain things that seemed more environmentally based rather than personality based. I agree with the INTJ on the left, but Lelouch as an 8. As for what you are calling "the less stereotypical and more nuanced Jungian functions", it's hard to disagree more, even just with that phrase. The type merely reflects the order of preference (so there’s no need for “I’m NEITHER, E nor I, I’m an AMBIVERT,” complaints). Lelouch bets on chance very often, even though you're rarely directly alluded to that. Secondly, about the performance under pressure, while it is stated that ENTP are less stressed generally than ENTJ, it is also true that the latters are more confident in their abilities even arrogant (generally the two types score among the least stressed types and the most confident/arrogant tho). Yes his Thinking style seems more of the seeing results and outwardly empirical anti-abstract nature of Te dominated by Ni vision that he has spent time contemplating (I'd say even before he received the Geass). & by that logic, him at school and at home: entp (I've read this somewhere too). Quiet, reflective, and idealistic. Interested in serving humanity. Well-developed value system, which they strive to live in accordance with.. Yakomaru: ENTP. Why would you think an INTP would be comfortable with tackling physical situations like he is. " Lelouch is all about keeping himself reserved so that others can't find his weaknesses. This isn't meant to imply that "no J's can improvise" or that "P's know nothing", but read any description comparing J's and P's.
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